Current Events > If Terminator 2 came out today the incels would be pissed about the female lead

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KiwiTerraRizing
07/21/20 2:31:46 PM
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You know its true

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DeadBankerDream
07/21/20 2:32:05 PM
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Sounds unlikely.
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R1masher
07/21/20 2:32:37 PM
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Time travel made them!

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Herodopus
07/21/20 2:33:56 PM
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Were they pissed about 6? That had 3 female leads
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Offworlder1
07/21/20 3:47:38 PM
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Sarah Connor is a popular and beloved character, no had a problem with her then. no one has a problem with her now.

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iPhone_7
07/21/20 3:52:43 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
Sarah Connor is a popular and beloved character, no had a problem with her then. no one has a problem with her now.
But it was Terminator 2 that made her a beloved character.

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Offworlder1
07/21/20 4:10:13 PM
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No that was "The Terminator", she started to become a badass towards the end of the first movie, that is when she endeared herself to people.

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FortuneCookie
07/21/20 4:25:34 PM
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They'd definitely be pissed. They'd be talking about how Kyle Reis was a realistic protagonist and Sarah Connor did everything with ease because she's female. She also got an appearance downgrade between films, so there's that too. Oh, and the thing about cops being the bad guys would not fly under the radar either. If the internet were as prominent then as it is today, you'd have people talking about the "forced politics" of police officers killing the black guy.


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nemu
07/21/20 4:27:45 PM
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I guess it depends if you mean literal internet troll incels or "the large amount of people who dislike these bad movies like Ghostbusters 2016." The former hates everything, while the later only hates shit.
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FortuneCookie
07/21/20 4:28:37 PM
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It's probably for the best that we didn't have internet back then.

"Indiana Jones is not racist. Who cares if a white guy plays an Arab? It's called acting! WHAT...? I can't believe Batman made Harvey Dent black! He's not gonna be Two-Face in the sequel, he's gonna be Black-Face!"

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DeadBankerDream
07/21/20 4:29:56 PM
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How is Indiana Jones racist?
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spikethedevil
07/21/20 4:30:04 PM
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The first Metroid would get so much shit these days considering Samus gender isn't revealed until the ending, as for TV shows Buffy would get he SJW propaganda bs these days as well.

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WarfireX
07/21/20 4:32:36 PM
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I really doubt that people would be complaining but I also just don't feel like the movie would be as well done today.

Like, I could see a Terminator 2 remake, in an alternate reality where Terminator is just now getting its first sequel by 2020 modern standards and all of the artistic integrity just being sucked out of it.

I don't see people complaining when these movies are well done. People weren't complaining about Alita. No one was claiming Ex Machina was a woke movie except the most sexist idiots. It's only when the movies agenda is transparent that it becomes to majority of people complaining.

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FortuneCookie
07/21/20 4:49:48 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
How is Indiana Jones racist?

White guy playing an Arab in the first and third movies. Unflattering depictions of Indian people in the second movie. That wasn't meant to be the focus of that post though. It was just about people saying "Who cares?" when depictions of minorities are controversial, but throwing a fit when a black actor plays a character who was originally white.

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Blue_Inigo
07/21/20 4:52:18 PM
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Herodopus posted...
Were they pissed about 6? That had 3 female leads
They were

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AsucaHayashi
07/21/20 4:53:59 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I can't believe Batman made Harvey Dent black! He's not gonna be Two-Face in the sequel, he's gonna be Black-Face!"

lol what is this in reference to?

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Questionmarktarius
07/21/20 4:55:09 PM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
lol what is this in reference to?
the 1989 film
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FortuneCookie
07/21/20 4:58:14 PM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
lol what is this in reference to?

Batman (1989). Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent.

He didn't get to be Two-Face until Lego Batman though. The first sequel replaced Harvey Dent with an original character; Christopher Walken's Max Schreck. Then the second sequel replaced Billy Dee Williams with Tommy Lee Jones as Harvey Dent/Two-Face. Billy Dee Williams still received royalties though.

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onedarksoul
07/21/20 4:59:58 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Sounds unlikely.


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FortuneCookie
07/21/20 5:01:27 PM
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And, yes, Harvey Dent (not Two-Face) was going to be a villain in Batman Returns.

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cjsdowg
07/21/20 5:03:22 PM
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Incels would hate everything.. but I am guessing you really don't mean them and are really talking about people who took real issues with some of these horrible movies coming out as of late.

If it the latter. No . Sarah was shown training , it is a understandable how she would change. And didn't shoot the T-1000 in the nuts.

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ledbowman
07/21/20 5:05:27 PM
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indy 3 would be crucified by nerds if it came out today for all the corny gags and the prequel part where he gets all his trademarks in 5 minutes

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AsucaHayashi
07/21/20 5:06:36 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Batman (1989). Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent.
i should probably have caught on to it but somehow i remember lando being the mayor of gotham xd

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FortuneCookie
07/21/20 6:13:43 PM
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ledbowman posted...
indy 3 would be crucified by nerds if it came out today for all the corny gags and the prequel part where he gets all his trademarks in 5 minutes

Honestly, I think the raft scene from Temple of Doom is just as bad as the refrigerator scene from Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. He falls several hundreds of feet from an airplane, but a raft magically breaks his fall.

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VandorLee
07/21/20 6:15:14 PM
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Yeah TC, good points made here so i totally agree with you!

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ledbowman
07/21/20 6:17:44 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Honestly, I think the raft scene from Temple of Doom is just as bad as the refrigerator scene from Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. He falls several hundreds of feet from an airplane, but a raft magically breaks his fall.

yeah but people are usually pretty critical of that movie and then act like 3 is as good as 1 (lol)

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Garioshi
07/21/20 6:17:50 PM
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Herodopus posted...
Were they pissed about 6? That had 3 female leads
They were furious

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ohiostate124
07/21/20 6:19:25 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Sounds unlikely.

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Darmik
07/21/20 6:21:20 PM
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I can see it. First game had a man protecting her. Second movie is all about how she needs no man to protect her which shits on Kyle Reese as a character!

I can see the angry YouTube thumbnails now.

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FortuneCookie
07/21/20 6:22:29 PM
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ledbowman posted...
yeah but people are usually pretty critical of that movie and then act like 3 is as good as 1 (lol)

The Last Crusade is my least favorite of the original trilogy. It feels like a Disney parody of Indiana Jones. I love the tank sequence, but we needed a little more action and a little less slapstick. The first hour is kinda slow.

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Slayer_22
07/21/20 6:25:58 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
The first Metroid would get so much shit these days considering Samus gender isn't revealed until the ending, as for TV shows Buffy would get he SJW propaganda bs these days as well.

I don't think an attractive woman like Samus popping out of her armor in a bikini would bother anyone lol.
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ledbowman
07/21/20 6:35:14 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
The Last Crusade is my least favorite of the original trilogy. It feels like a Disney parody of Indiana Jones. I love the tank sequence, but we needed a little more action and a little less slapstick. The first hour is kinda slow.

well put. i actually like temple quite a bit. it's got issues but what's good is so good i forgive a lot. the opening is excellent. short round is funny to me. john williams was especially on. this part of the score is better than any aspect of 3

https://youtu.be/dny0-U29Ygw

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Questionmarktarius
07/21/20 7:38:19 PM
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Slayer_22 posted...
I don't think an attractive woman like Samus popping out of her armor in a bikini would bother anyone lol.
Greenhairs, ironically.
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FortuneCookie
07/21/20 8:53:26 PM
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ledbowman posted...
well put. i actually like temple quite a bit. it's got issues but what's good is so good i forgive a lot. the opening is excellent. short round is funny to me. john williams was especially on. this part of the score is better than any aspect of 3

Yeah. I don't get the hatred for Short Round. He contributes to the plot, he gets in on some of the action and he's a kid who can drive a car. As a seven year old, that blew my mind.

(That's seven years old at the time, mods. Not seven today.)


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ledbowman
07/21/20 8:55:45 PM
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you call him dr. jones

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Lorenzo_2003
07/21/20 9:09:14 PM
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Incels have probably been around since forever.

In general, people didnt get pissed about Sarah Connor in T2 because her character arc made sense. She was a very broken character, who redeemed herself at the end.

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Slayer_22
07/21/20 10:26:22 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Greenhairs, ironically.

What's greenhairs?
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Questionmarktarius
07/21/20 10:53:02 PM
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Slayer_22 posted...
What's greenhairs?


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Trumpo
07/21/20 10:58:46 PM
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Alien had a strong female lead
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ohiostate124
07/21/20 11:19:01 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
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jumi
07/22/20 2:58:17 AM
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Linda Hamilton was the lead in Terminator. Arnold and Edward Furlong were the leads in T2.

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Philoktetes
07/22/20 3:01:19 AM
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no because in the movie her feminist rant is condemned by john who tells her to calm down
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YugiNoob
07/22/20 3:01:55 AM
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Imagine if Ace Ventura came out today...

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DrizztLink
07/22/20 4:10:42 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Oh, and the thing about cops being the bad guys would not fly under the radar either. If the internet were as prominent then as it is today, you'd have people talking about the "forced politics" of police officers killing the black guy.
You sure you know what year it is?

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Vyrulisse
07/22/20 4:15:32 AM
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No because back then diversity and such in movies and shows was just done. People get annoyed with writers and directors and all those people when they go and crow about how progressive they are for ham fisting some agenda into a story. Sarah Connor was Sarah Connor, she wasn't le stronk womyn. She was an actual character with strengths and flaws.

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spikethedevil
07/22/20 4:29:37 AM
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TBF anytime a game or movie doesnt star a straight white male people shout SJW propaganda these days. Metroid 1 would cause a shit storm if it came out today as Samus gender was only revealed in the ending.

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Shadowplay
07/22/20 5:23:40 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
No because back then diversity and such in movies and shows was just done. People get annoyed with writers and directors and all those people when they go and crow about how progressive they are for ham fisting some agenda into a story. Sarah Connor was Sarah Connor, she wasn't le stronk womyn. She was an actual character with strengths and flaws.
And back then, whenever someone was trying to make an "inclusive" piece of media, it was as obvious as it is today.

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