Board 8 > just watched ep 1 of king of the hill and it was awesome

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i assume hank won't be this affectionate toward bobby every episode but that ending was fantastic. legit nearly cried.

it's already clear to me why this is one of those iconic sitcom heroes. his characterization in just the first episode was impeccable. i think i'm gonna enjoy hank hill far more than i did al bundy.
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i tell you what man that dang old Bobby talking about how that boy ain't right y'know

I'd catch it off and on back in the days when I still had cable. I didn't fully appreciate it then, but even then I knew it wasn't a bad show.

I remember watching some analysis video that lingered on KotH for a bit talking about how it was normally fairly grounded to the point that the need for it to be animated at all was questioned, but by virtue of being animated it allowed for masterful and impossible camera angles among other things.

It's been memefied on the internet pretty hard, but if one actually looks at the source material, yeah, it's a solid show that seems to be aging surprisingly well.


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in episode 2, none of the parents allow their kids to learn about sex in school.

is/was that something that really happened in texas in the 90s?!

SovietOmega posted...

I'd catch it off and on back in the days when I still had cable. I didn't fully appreciate it then, but even then I knew it wasn't a bad show.

if i caught this as a kid i'd have been super put-off by the animation... and by the accents... and by hank's kinda despicable neighbor friends. most of the humor is very adult; i haven't really seen much slapstick so far.

Sir Cobain posted...

i tell you what man that dang old Bobby talking about how that boy ain't right y'know

the way hank talks is incredible
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Yeah definitely something I was never interested in but the more I hear about it the more I think it actually is up my alley.

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SeabassDebeste posted...

is/was that something that really happened in texas in the 90s?!

heck it was happening in chicago in the 90s

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SeabassDebeste posted...

in episode 2, none of the parents allow their kids to learn about sex in school.

is/was that something that really happened in texas in the 90s?!

What do you mean by "really happened"? Of course that sort of thing happened, and I'd be more surprised to find out it wasn't still going on.
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I rewatched the entire series last year and it's truly among the greats for both American animation and sitcoms.

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pjbasis posted...

Yeah definitely something I was never interested in but the more I hear about it the more I think it actually is up my alley.

As far as I can tell there's no plot arcs, so it won't be that type of show. But based on the first two episodes, it's what I was promised: a middle-aged white man reckoning with changes in society and challenges to his worldview, and so far, generally growing from them. Hank has prejudices but is clearly fundamentally decent, and that decency has been the backbone of the first two episodes.

Xeybozn posted...

What do you mean by "really happened"? Of course that sort of thing happened, and I'd be more surprised to find out it wasn't still going on.

Guess I just found it surprising since I encountered nothing of the sort when I took sex ed. Everyone was there. Usually when sex ed is mentioned on TV, it's from the kids' perspective, and everyone is assumed to have taken it. The education itself might not be high-quality, but everyone has taken it.
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SeabassDebeste posted...

As far as I can tell there's no plot arcs, so it won't be that type of show.

There are a few. It's not like a serial or anything most of the time, so you can drop in and out and still enjoy the show.

SeabassDebeste posted...

if i caught this as a kid i'd have been super put-off by the animation... and by the accents... and by hank's kinda despicable neighbor friends. most of the humor is very adult; i haven't really seen much slapstick so far.

Grew up in texas, so the accents were effectively normal for me. But yeah, animation was definitely a small sticking point that I had to overcome. The subdued humor is probably why I didn't like it as much as the simpsons/futurama. I'd probably appreciate it volumes more if I were to give it a watchthrough now. Heck...I might just have to do that. I've currently got a deficiency of 30 min shows to watch.

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King of the Hill is of one the great animated sitcoms. Just as it was getting into HD it was canceled. Shame it was too.

Never saw the last season as the last time it was on Netflix (Nearly 10 years ago now) the last season was on DVD only. And we got rid of netfix soon after.

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"Please...respect...my fence's right...to be a fence" Alright, definitely gonna have to watch through this series now. Being older's gonna pay dividends for this show's style of humor.

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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...

King of the Hill is of one the great animated sitcoms. Just as it was getting into HD it was canceled (For the Cleveland Show). Shame it was too.

Never saw the last season as the last time it was on Netflix (Nearly 10 years ago now) the last season was on DVD only. And we got rid of netfix soon after.

it's on hulu, if you're interested in finishing it off after all these years!

though i cannot vouch for quality beyond episode 2 of season 1
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The first four seasons are high quality. After that Mike Judge and Greg Daniels were more hands-off with the show so it dips in quality a bit, but honestly all the way through the end its still better than any animated FOX sitcom since.

Also, while the show never becomes outright serialized, there are overarching storylines that develop and change the status quo over time.

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As a kid I didn't care for it much. In my early 20s while in college was when I came around to it.

Now I've probably watched the entire series at least 3 times

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Sir Cobain posted...

i tell you what man that dang old Bobby talking about how that boy ain't right y'know

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Mike Judge's performance as Hank Hill is really underappreciated, he does an outstanding job voicing that character. I totally forgot that he voiced Beavis and Butthead, he absolutely disappears into Hank.

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Every time I see someone watching KotH for the first time I get jealous.

What a great time that is.

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great show is great

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Damn what an amazing show youre in for a treat all the way to the end

Quite easily the best animated sitcom IMO. Hank especially stands light years above other animated dads.

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There ARE changes in the status quo but as said before, you can enjoy it at your leisure

I will say that after a certain point, you can tell they got new writers because the newer stories create plot holes and start becoming inconsistent with whats already been established

it'll be Jarring but not unwatchable. I'm just sayin it'll happen and since you might seem like you're gonna be marathoning it, it'll be even more apparent to you


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its obvious to say out loud, but looking through the episodes in the early seasons there are so many good ones

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for many years i thought king of the hill was a dumb show for dummies like my older redneck brother

after years of casually catching episodes on in the background while doing other things or bored one day i realized i fuckin love this show

i don't know when this shift happened, but i don't think i changed. i just didn't get the show before.

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There is one story arc that its a shame they never resolved, it was getting set up as early as the first couple episodes that Luanne was actually terrible at hairdressing, but was quite gifted when it came to cars. They never end up actually give her an opportunity to succeed there that I can recall. Might have just been forgotten about since it was so early in the show.

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so i watched two more episodes. they were a bit less impressive than the first two nut still enjoyable.

in the first, hank and other dads lying to their kids in a campsite so they can earb straight-arrow badges. the cultural appropriation stuff is cringe-y and unnecessary. overall it mostly just showed hank's less savory side, though in the end it protected bobby from realizing it with the bird coming back to life.

the second had a bit more kick, with hank's obsession with his guitar and joking about loving it more than peggy. liked the sweet song hank sings at the end of it.
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King of the Hill is amazing. When it first came on tv I really disliked it, but as I got older I began to appreciate the subtle mature humor a lot.

Let me know when you get to the firefighter episode

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WazzupGenius00 posted...

There is one story arc that its a shame they never resolved, it was getting set up as early as the first couple episodes that Luanne was actually terrible at hairdressing, but was quite gifted when it came to cars. They never end up actually give her an opportunity to succeed there that I can recall. Might have just been forgotten about since it was so early in the show.

the joke at the time with Luanne was, while she was pretty dimwitted at times, she DOES have a knack for things and is talented. Unfortunately they decided to go full on dumb blonde with her and she never recovered. Yea, First season Luanne is pretty different. Remember how she threatened Cotton? Later luanne would never do that

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Boomhauer talking to Bob Dylan at Willie Nelsons party is one of my favorite jokes

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Oh man I hated the bird episode. Its a shame that the second episode is one of the worst. Trust me theres a few episodes of King of the Hill that are super dull. I wont lie. But on the whole its one of the very best animated shows of all time. So its definitely worth it to suffer the bad episodes.

I have all 13 seasons and need to fire them up again sometime soon

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truly amazing show

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"Women like men with round, muscular butts. I'm gonna find a man with a round, muscular butt."

"Uh, maybe we should split up."
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Favorite part of season 1 is Cotton meeting Kahn for the first time.

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"Dale, you giblet-head!"

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man, this show's mundanity is incredible

literally a whole episode about constipation, where the primary source of conflict is hank's aversion to doing anything about it versus peggy's obsession with fretting and talking about it

what a weird show
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this episode about the laotian neighbors is overall quite cringe-y

but, it does have dale touching the water bowl of a dog and saying "it's still wet"
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Did we ever find out if Kahn is Chinese, or Japanese?
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Oh man I love Kahn and Min

Laos, we Laotian

"Da Ocean??

Wut Ocean??"

WE ARE LAOTIAN, FROM LAOS, STUPID

Kahn calling someone he just met stupid is such a Kahn thing to do lol

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great episode with hank's dad about pretty much the sin of enabling/being a bystander. paradox of tolerance is that you need to be intolerant of assholes.

(edit) also holy shit boomhauer's incoherent muttering is growing on me so much
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SeabassDebeste posted...

paradox of tolerance is that you need to be intolerant of assholes.

people who post the "tolerant liberal" meme should watch king of the hill because they never get this


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"boggle is a game of wits. cow bingo is a game of strategy!"
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

people who post the "tolerant liberal" meme should watch king of the hill because they never get this

yeah. i appreciate that KOTH shows hank trying really hard to ignore his dad's assholery and misogyny until it boils over. but when he actually claps back, it's unapologetic and total.
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I reckon Bill episodes should be shown to High School Football players who think they're King Shit lol.

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liked the smoking episode. it definitely captured some of the appeal for smoking and kind of showed its allure even when people know what's awful about it
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"I thought we just came for seed and fertilizer. Why are men so attracted to hoes?"

"My lawn is my flag. It tells the world, here lives a competent, trustworthy salesman of propane and propane accessories. A man who cannot keep up a lawn is either inept or stupid. Without my lawn, I am Bill. Do you want to be married to Bill?!"
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KotH's big strength is how nuanced it is in its delivery

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season 1 down the hatch. this show really takes extremely barebones plots - in this case, bobby going to a party with girls - and rides them to the point of absurdity. hank winds up bisecting a mannequin head with a table saw. even with context it's bizarre!
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