Current Events > Paper Mario producer confirms series will be ass from now on.

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LostForest
07/16/20 9:56:11 PM
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https://nintendoeverything.com/paper-mario-dev-says-hes-moved-away-from-complicated-stories-and-modifying-mario-characters-for-original-characters/

In Super Paper Mario, the elaborate story led the game away from the Mario universe, so since Paper Mario: Sticker Star Ive refrained from using stories that are too complicated.

To go back to Mario, in Paper Mario: Color Splash, I avoided having a complicated story so as not to veer too far away from the Mario universe, and instead aimed for a game with more memorable events.

Since Paper Mario: Sticker Star, its no longer possible to modify Mario characters or to create original characters that touch on the Mario universe. That means that if we arent using Mario characters for bosses, we need to create original characters with designs that dont involve the Mario universe at all, like weve done with Olly and the stationery bosses.

That last one in particular sounds like pretty hard confirmation of the rumored Miyamoto fuckery, which demanded they couldn't make unique characters anymore.

Well, pack it up boys. The Paper Mario we grew up with and love, is dead lol.

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Dark_SilverX
07/16/20 9:59:29 PM
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Great news. That means they can shit out new Paper Mario games very quickly so no more gaming droughts.

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CapnMuffin
07/16/20 10:03:03 PM
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This is BS.

Sunshine Galaxy and Odyssey has zero problems introducing new worlds and characters outside the Mario Universe whatever the fuck that means.

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ChrisTaka
07/16/20 10:03:15 PM
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Who spilled their lore on my Mario game?

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sauceje
07/16/20 10:04:53 PM
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Guess we'll have to wait for indie devs to fill the void

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Smackems
07/16/20 10:06:05 PM
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Dumb

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Smashingpmkns
07/16/20 10:06:47 PM
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Sounds like they can make completely original characters (like Cappy, Luma, the paper fairy character) but not any based on already established designs (Goombette, Broshi or Yoshi kid). Sounds dumb as fuck but there's no reason why they couldn't have made another Vivian type character.
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GiftedACIII
07/16/20 10:07:16 PM
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Thanks Miyamoto
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slmcknett
07/16/20 10:09:21 PM
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The disconnect between developers and fans always continues to amaze me.

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nemu
07/16/20 10:14:16 PM
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I was on the fence about giving the new game a shot, but that tipped me into the firm no category. It's just a damn joke at this point.
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MC_BatCommander
07/16/20 10:19:03 PM
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I just don't understand why the same company allows Pokemon to basically be the exact same game over and over also decides that Paper Mario simply can't stick to such a good formula.


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LostForest
07/16/20 11:28:39 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
I just don't understand why the same company allows Pokemon to basically be the exact same game over and over also decides that Paper Mario simply can't stick to such a good formula.

I feel like it had to have been some sort of corporate style guide decision over the last decade. Like, they want to unify the Mario universe as this hyper controlled, really generic creation.

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BroodRyu
07/16/20 11:30:42 PM
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I cannot fathom how this works. Why do they think Color Splash did so poorly? Did they completely and utterly disregard the complaints that were rampant at that time?
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MarqueeSeries
07/16/20 11:32:33 PM
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Hopefully this one bombs and they can finally just let the series's dead body lay to rest

Sad to see a franchise I loved so much as a kid turn to shit
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Hayame Zero
07/16/20 11:36:33 PM
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I was mostly in agreement until that third paragraph. It is best to keep things simple for Mario games, but what kind of logic is that?

That's not even the case with some of the other ones despite the already large cast of characters. Do they just want the mainline, Nintendo EPD-developed games to have original characters now?

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billcom6
07/16/20 11:39:54 PM
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Do people actually like Paper Mario games or do they just claim they do so they can bitch about them nonstop?

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DoctorPiranha3
07/16/20 11:41:21 PM
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Nintendo and Miyamoto are so out of touch with reality. Games are supposed to be fun and imaginative, not generic and corporate. Shove it up your ass, Shiggy!
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creativerealms
07/16/20 11:41:26 PM
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Yet those things don't seem to apply to the new game.

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BroodRyu
07/16/20 11:42:41 PM
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MarqueeSeries posted...
Hopefully this one bombs and they can finally just let the series's dead body lay to rest

Sad to see a franchise I loved so much as a kid turn to shit
For some reason I dont think this will. This looks very similar to Color Splash but the fan reaction to it is shockingly different.
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uwnim
07/16/20 11:44:46 PM
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I really don't see how that could possibly be a rule for Paper Mario but not for anything else.

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dave_is_slick
07/16/20 11:44:59 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Do people actually like Paper Mario games or do they just claim they do so they can bitch about them nonstop?
What kind of dumb shit...?

OF COURSE we loved Paper Mario! First two especially, with SPM being more divisive but with the best story out of them all. Why in the hell would you think we didn't love it??

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nfearurspecimn
07/16/20 11:45:31 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Do people actually like Paper Mario games or do they just claim they do so they can b**** about them nonstop?

um yes? they are great games. the first two at least...
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BakonBitz
07/16/20 11:46:56 PM
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LostForest posted...


I feel like it had to have been some sort of corporate style guide decision over the last decade. Like, they want to unify the Mario universe as this hyper controlled, really generic creation.

That certainly seems like it since even the Mario & Luigi series fell victim to this. Most notable change was existing enemy/character designs in the Superstar Saga remake being changed to homogenized versions.
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Hayame Zero
07/16/20 11:47:55 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Do people actually like Paper Mario games or do they just claim they do so they can bitch about them nonstop?
The first two are legit some of the best RPGs made by Nintendo. They've basically tried something new and different from the formula in every subsequent game, and most of the new ideas and innovations have been mostly considered repetitive, annoying, or lazy.

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DoctorPiranha3
07/16/20 11:53:12 PM
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The first two Paper Marios are my favorite games of all time.
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