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Blue_Inigo
07/16/20 2:53:51 PM
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https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/interviews/paper-mario-origami-king/

Some of the staff have been around since the first game 20 years ago. This answers some questions about why the new games are different.

Nintendo no longer allows OCs. It explains why there are so many Toads. Honestly the first game was 90% Toad NPCs so I dont think that's a mega deal breaker in that area. It is a bummer that we might never get cool characters like Vivian or Rawk Hawk ever again.

They don't use the old battle system because they don't just wanna do the same thing again. That's fine with me but you gotta bring something to the table that's just as fun and rewarding. The latest ones do not reward you as they should


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kirbymuncher
07/16/20 3:09:37 PM
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That means that if we arent using Mario characters for bosses, we need to create original characters with designs that dont involve the Mario universe at all

I don't see how this necessarily rules out the vivians and the rawk hawks and etc

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DoctorPiranha3
07/16/20 3:11:18 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Nintendo no longer allows OCs.

*flips over table*

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TheCodeisBosco
07/16/20 3:33:30 PM
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At this point, the Paper Mario devs should probably just stop talking. >_> I honestly empathize with them to a degree; I think corporate meddling is the main thing that clipped the wings of this series, and this interview certainly lends credence to that idea. But still, anything they say at this point is just going to be used against them and piss people off further.

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creativerealms
07/16/20 3:36:27 PM
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Seems they lighted up the rules with Origami king a bit though.

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sauceje
07/16/20 3:37:28 PM
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I really wish I could understand what Nintendo is thinking with some of their decisions. Like, seriously, why forbid differently-designed Toads, Koopas and others?

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LightHawKnight
07/16/20 3:40:21 PM
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Why does no OCs still fuck over the gameplay?

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PatrickMahomes
07/16/20 3:41:05 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Nintendo no longer allows OCs.
What the fuck?

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dmaster342
07/16/20 3:42:02 PM
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At this point they need to stop making games in the series and let it die IMO.

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DeathDeathSong
07/16/20 3:42:16 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Nintendo no longer allows OCs.
literally why

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Blue_Inigo
07/16/20 3:42:43 PM
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dmaster342 posted...
At this point they need to stop making games in the series and let it die IMO.
That's dumb

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ultimate reaver
07/16/20 3:43:58 PM
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Hope it sells like shit and they put the series out of Its misery

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LightHawKnight
07/16/20 3:44:51 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
Hope it sells like shit and they put the series out of Its misery

If SS didn't kill it, this wont.

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Antifar
07/16/20 3:45:51 PM
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It's not as impactful as the no OCs thing is, but I'm reminded of how in Mario+Rabbids, Ubisoft was told they couldn't have Mario jump around in the overworld for traversal.
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PowerOats
07/16/20 3:56:01 PM
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This game will probably sell well cuz it's on switch, aesthetically it looks great, and there are no other Nintendo games to look forward to atm

Sucks that the won't put ttyd or PM64 on the eShop, despite PM64 being perfectly capable and ready to be ported

I just want TTYD2 cuz I feel like they were just getting started
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ThePrinceFish
07/16/20 3:57:24 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Nintendo no longer allows OCs.
Unbelievably stupid.

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Smashingpmkns
07/16/20 3:58:05 PM
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Seems weird. Wasn't there OC in more recent Mario spin off games like the M&L RPGs?
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Intro2Logic
07/16/20 4:00:47 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Seems weird. Wasn't there OC in more recent Mario spin off games like the M&L RPGs?
When they did remakes of the earlier games, they took out some of the quirks from enemies



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TheCodeisBosco
07/16/20 4:01:34 PM
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Antifar posted...
It's not as impactful as the no OCs thing is, but I'm reminded of how in Mario+Rabbids, Ubisoft was told they couldn't have Mario jump around in the overworld for traversal.

This kind of rigid, "we only want yellow M&Ms in the bowl"-type branding demand grates on my nerves more than it probably should.

The Pokemon Company is even worse about it.

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Gheb
07/16/20 4:01:51 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
They don't use the old battle system because they don't just wanna do the same thing again.

Hearing this from Intelligent Systems in genuinely hilarious.

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Smashingpmkns
07/16/20 4:02:15 PM
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That's really sad actually. Hopefully they change their mind about this shit soon.
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Herodopus
07/16/20 4:03:27 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
Hope it sells like shit and they put the series out of Its misery
this, but casual fans will buy it so it'll be fine. also tons of hardcore fans who bitch about every game after TTYD still buy the shit ones too, so double whammy
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Shadowplay
07/16/20 4:04:08 PM
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Antifar posted...
It's not as impactful as the no OCs thing is, but I'm reminded of how in Mario+Rabbids, Ubisoft was told they couldn't have Mario jump around in the overworld for traversal.
Why in the world would they not allow that?

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TheGoldenEel
07/16/20 4:04:16 PM
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Nintendo: we wont make the game like TTYD because were more interested in creating new experiences than rehashing old ones

also Nintendo: no new characters

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PokemonExpert44
07/16/20 4:08:13 PM
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This game is going to be so awesome

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Antifar
07/16/20 4:09:10 PM
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Shadowplay posted...

Why in the world would they not allow that?

That one makes a little more sense to me, I can understand why Nintendo would be protective of Mario platforming and not want outsiders messing around with that.
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Jagr_68
07/16/20 4:10:53 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Nintendo: we wont make the game like TTYD because were more interested in creating new experiences than rehashing old ones

also Nintendo: no new characters

also also Nintendo: rehash the same IPs every 10 years

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refmon
07/16/20 5:08:35 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Nintendo no longer allows OCs.
Why The Fuck

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nemu
07/16/20 5:10:38 PM
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I hate everything about their development process. I know not every internal development team is the same, but fucking New Super Mario Bros would like to have a talk about the same formula working a dozen times.
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Tyranthraxus
07/16/20 5:12:11 PM
#30:


Blue_Inigo posted...
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/interviews/paper-mario-origami-king/

Some of the staff have been around since the first game 20 years ago. This answers some questions about why the new games are different.

Nintendo no longer allows OCs. It explains why there are so many Toads. Honestly the first game was 90% Toad NPCs so I dont think that's a mega deal breaker in that area. It is a bummer that we might never get cool characters like Vivian or Rawk Hawk ever again.

They don't use the old battle system because they don't just wanna do the same thing again. That's fine with me but you gotta bring something to the table that's just as fun and rewarding. The latest ones do not reward you as they should

Nintendo no longer allows OCs says developers of game with at least two new OCs.

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BakonBitz
07/16/20 5:14:09 PM
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So their spamming of Toads and generic NPCs is literally because Nintendo won't let them do anything else.

*sigh*
This probably means we're not gonna get engaging stories (for Mario, at least) like TTYD and SPM again, either.
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Romulox28
07/16/20 5:16:23 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Nintendo no longer allows OCs.


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DoctorPiranha3
07/16/20 5:18:30 PM
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Corporate mandates suck. These old goons need to retire.
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ThanksUglyGod
07/16/20 5:26:11 PM
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I really wish I could understand the logic behind removing one of the best features of your series, but it's above me I guess.
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Irony
07/16/20 5:42:09 PM
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Lol

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One_Day_Remains
07/16/20 5:45:15 PM
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This doesn't really seem like new info. Its clear Miyamoto thinks that the Sticker Star system and tropes are golden and he's going to stick with them as long as the franchise sells. He reminds me of Vince McMahon
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CM_Ponch
07/16/20 5:47:44 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
They don't use the old battle system because they don't just wanna do the same thing again.
This is honestly such bullshit. It's been over 15 years since TTYD, but we've gotten three Sticker Stars in a row.

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tremain07
07/16/20 5:53:01 PM
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Kinda reminds me of what Sega is doing with Sonic in recent years now none of his previous outtings are canon to each other, Shadow and Rouge aren't friends, he has two worlds, Classic Sonic is not the same Sonic as Modern Sonic and they can never ever show Sonic being sad or crying.

I wonder what it is that's causing these corporations to basically Mickey Mouse their franchises now.

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WrestlinFan
07/16/20 5:54:00 PM
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sauceje posted...
I really wish I could understand what Nintendo is thinking with some of their decisions. Like, seriously, why forbid differently-designed Toads, Koopas and others?
I dont understand why the Paper Mario team gets their legs sliced off from under them, but horrible takes on the Mario universe like Mario Rabbids are approved.

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pikachupwnage
07/16/20 5:56:32 PM
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Tbh the paper maruo sticker star battle system would've been lit if stickers were more like battle chips in MMBN.

You make a load out to use in each battle. They are consumed in battle but are back once the battle ends.

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Blue_Inigo
07/16/20 6:01:12 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
This is honestly such bullshit. It's been over 15 years since TTYD, but we've gotten three Sticker Stars in a row.
This game is nothing like Sticker Star tbh

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Tyranthraxus
07/16/20 6:01:58 PM
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WrestlinFan posted...
I dont understand why the Paper Mario team gets their legs sliced off from under them, but horrible takes on the Mario universe like Mario Rabbids are approved.
Mario + Rabbids is fucking amazing tho.

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sauceje
07/16/20 6:03:08 PM
#43:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Mario + Rabbids is fucking amazing tho.
Doesn't take away from the fact that the premise is ridiculous.

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YoungMutual
07/16/20 6:06:09 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
So their spamming of Toads and generic NPCs is literally because Nintendo won't let them do anything else.

*sigh*
This probably means we're not gonna get engaging stories (for Mario, at least) like TTYD and SPM again, either.
If huge changes were aproved for Breath of the Wild, Mario Oddysey and the IS developed Fire Emblem Three Houses, there's a chance that they can approve a return to form with the next Paper Mario.

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Mistere Man
07/16/20 6:12:25 PM
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Since Paper Mario: Sticker Star, its no longer possible to modify Mario characters or to create original characters that touch on the Mario universe. That means that if we arent using Mario characters for bosses, we need to create original characters with designs that dont involve the Mario universe at all, like weve done with Olly and the stationery bosses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3872ulb0_8

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Blue_Inigo
07/16/20 6:14:37 PM
#46:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Nintendo no longer allows OCs says developers of game with at least two new OCs.
OCs are basically limited to bosses and characters related to those bosses it would seem.

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WrestlinFan
07/16/20 6:16:39 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Mario + Rabbids is fucking amazing tho.
The game itself is fun sure. But the take on the Mario universe is lazy and uninspired. Compare it to something like Mario RPG and weep.

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Tyranthraxus
07/16/20 6:18:06 PM
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WrestlinFan posted...
The game itself is fun sure. But the take on the Mario universe is lazy and uninspired. Compare it to something like Mario RPG and weep.

As I said in the other topic.

Tyranthraxus posted...
SMRPG is garbage fanfiction and I never want to hear from Geno, Mallow, or Smithy ever again.


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BignutzisBack
07/16/20 6:20:27 PM
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SMRPG & TTYD are amazing games

Paper Mario 64 is a great game

Super Paper Mario is an ok game

The rest are trash

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Cookie Bag
07/16/20 6:30:53 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
As I said in the other topic.
How can you say that the rabbids world is good and call SMRPG fanfic, the fuck? lol this is some shitty take

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