Current Events > WH defends 99% harmless claim by saying only 4.6% of cases are fatal

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DarkRoast
07/06/20 3:48:19 PM
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http://a.msn.com/01/en-us/BB16pexG?ocid=se

I mean.... that's certainly an interesting argument

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SodomInsane
07/06/20 3:49:23 PM
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Isn't it even lower than a 4.6% fatality rate. What is wrong with what they said?

Is it that it is a Republican saying death rate low?

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Tyranthraxus
07/06/20 3:50:36 PM
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GOP be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoC3TR5rzI

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thronedfire2
07/06/20 3:50:57 PM
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Trump should be impeached for directly contributing to a national health emergency via deliberate spread of misinformation for his own political reasons

too bad they blew their wad on that one last year

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nemu
07/06/20 3:51:40 PM
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Given the likelihood of a very high number of cases that will never be documented, that's most likely a correct statement, but no idea how hard it is to not flub something like that in an official briefing.
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Fam_Fam
07/06/20 3:52:12 PM
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SodomInsane posted...
Isn't it even lower than a 4.6% fatality rate. What is wrong with what they said?

Is it that it is a Republican saying death rate low?

99% harmless would mean only 1% are harmed

but 4.6% die. ignoring the harm done to anyone who doesnt die, that's more than 1%
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DarkRoast
07/06/20 3:52:21 PM
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SodomInsane posted...
Isn't it even lower than a 4.6% fatality rate. What is wrong with what they said?

Is it that it is a Republican saying death rate low?

Their chart says there are 2.9 million cases and 130,000 deaths

That's 4.48% CFR. Granted, you could get into the argument that there are ten times as many cases as reported (and that's probably true), but using the data the WH literally used to explain Trump's claim, Trump was wrong.


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Bio1590
07/06/20 3:52:51 PM
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SodomInsane posted...
Isn't it even lower than a 4.6% fatality rate. What is wrong with what they said?

Is it that it is a Republican saying death rate low?

The fact is that even if the death rate was 1% it doesn't mean the other 99% of cases are harmless. There's people suffering life-long debilitating effects from this thing even if it doesn't kill them.
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COVxy
07/06/20 3:53:17 PM
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Lmao.

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LightHawKnight
07/06/20 3:53:28 PM
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Do people not realize that covid19 isn't the killer? It is when hospitals get flooded.

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Sir Will
07/06/20 3:58:43 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Do people not realize that covid19 isn't the killer? It is when hospitals get flooded.

Well it is dangerous on its own but yes, many more deaths if hospitals are overrun and people go with no or less treatment.
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thronedfire2
07/06/20 3:59:17 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Do people not realize that covid19 isn't the killer? It is when hospitals get flooded.

...flooded with covid19 patients?

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CanuckCowboy
07/06/20 4:02:12 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
...flooded with covid19 patients?

This.

Its not that fatal because a lot of the people dying from it couldnt get as much medical help as needed.... cause of all the other people who have it.

what a great argumebt.

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Unsugarized_Foo
07/06/20 4:02:36 PM
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Really need to get a standard set of numbers in here before everything gets dumb mathed

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DarkRoast
07/06/20 4:02:53 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
This.

Its not that fatal because a lot of the people dying from it couldnt get as much medical help as needed.... cause of all the other people who have it.

what a great argumebt.

"In other words, let's open up and just deal with it"

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RadiantAdolin
07/06/20 4:04:30 PM
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SodomInsane posted...
Isn't it even lower than a 4.6% fatality rate. What is wrong with what they said?

Is it that it is a Republican saying death rate low?
For one, phrasing it as they did is incredibly disrespectful to the victims, and for two, even among those thay don't die there are long term effects, so it's absolutely not harmless.
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CanuckCowboy
07/06/20 4:04:42 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
"In other words, let's open up and just deal with it"

The crazy thing is i can envision a world a year from now where everyone else is basically back to normal (or as close as were likely to get) and Americans still arent allowed to travel anywhere outside their own borders.

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JBaLLEN66
07/06/20 4:05:30 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Do people not realize that covid19 isn't the killer? It is when hospitals get flooded.

that requires logical thinking and reasoning

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CanuckCowboy
07/06/20 4:06:15 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Really need to get a standard set of numbers in here before everything gets dumb mathed

Or you could accept that the current administration in america fucked up massively beyond any possible argument and thats it spreads incredibly rapidly and has a death rate over twice that of the flu.

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CanuckCowboy
07/06/20 4:06:33 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
that requires logical thinking and reasoning

Ironic.

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Extreme_light
07/06/20 4:09:41 PM
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RadiantAdolin posted...
For one, phrasing it as they did is incredibly disrespectful to the victims, and for two, even among those thay don't die there are long term effects, so it's absolutely not harmless.

Bingo. "99% harmless" is such a simplistic outlook. I doubt anyone would be calling it "harmless" when they're bedridden and coughing their damn lungs out each night.

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DarkRoast
07/06/20 4:11:23 PM
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Like anti-vaxxers who call measles a harmless childhood disease as long as you pretend it didn't kill 500 American children every year, and make thousands more permanently deaf.

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Unsugarized_Foo
07/06/20 4:11:35 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Or you could accept that the current administration in america fucked up massively beyond any possible argument and thats it spreads incredibly rapidly and has a death rate over twice that of the flu.

Nah, I was talking about everyone being dumb in the topic

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Atralis
07/06/20 4:12:59 PM
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It probably is less than 1% fatal and we just aren't tracking the minor and asymptomatic cases.

That being said I wouldn't call the common cold or flu "99% harmless" and this is a lot worse than they are.
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Lost_All_Senses
07/06/20 4:14:30 PM
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Im pretty sure Coronavirus is 110% safe. It's actually 10% healthier then before we had it.

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thronedfire2
07/06/20 4:14:39 PM
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using "way more people are infected but we didn't test enough" as the next rebuttal would be a bold strategy

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Tyranthraxus
07/06/20 4:27:33 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Im pretty sure Coronavirus is 110% safe. It's actually 10% healthier then before we had it.

People out there are dying from having too much health and the healthy virus is just making it worse. We need to help out by reducing the overall health with leaky pipelines and coal fire smog to help prevent overhealth poisoning.

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Lost_All_Senses
07/06/20 4:31:11 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
People out there are dying from having too much health and the healthy virus is just making it worse. We need to help out by reducing the overall health with leaky pipelines and coal fire smog to help prevent overhealth poisoning.

Glad somebody gets it. But will the liberals ever back this up? No! They're too busy being cucked by the media.

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