Current Events > What should the Washington Redskins change their name to?

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Before we begin ill just react to every silly post right now:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Now that weve gotten that out of the way, are there any acceptable native American references still on the table? Chiefs and Braves are already taken.

Tribe maybe?

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The Washington Washingtinglons.

Nah, but seriously they should just go the complete opposite direction from any native American references. As for a specific name, I can't really think of anything that's not lame, but I don't have a good imagination lol.

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Keep it as is.

All this nonsense is addressing the wrong problem.


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Washington Federalists

Go with a tribe like Kickapoo
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Maryland Redskins

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Washington Dumbasses

They shouldnt change it but Warriors seems most likely.

DigitalCamera posted...

Maryland Redskins

Or Landover Redskins.

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Pigskins

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Kildread posted...

Keep it as is.

All this nonsense is addressing the wrong problem.

There's no conflict between the different problems. You can address both.

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native americans themselves don't find the term offensive so why are a buncha white people getting ticked off? its also quite clear that the term didn't originate as a slur, yes it was once used as one but no longer is and didn't originally start out as one. so what's the fuss?

Washington Doormats

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crucial2099 posted...

native americans themselves don't find the term offensive so why are a buncha white people getting ticked off? its also quite clear that the term didn't originate as a slur, yes it was once used as one but no longer is and didn't originally start out as one. so what's the fuss?

Why cant we have a team called the whiteskins or blackskins or yellowskins cuz its fucking wrong

CADE FOSTER posted...

White cant we have a team called the whiteskins or blackskins or yellowskins cuz its fucking wrong

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crucial2099 posted...

native americans themselves don't find the term offensive so why are a buncha white people getting ticked off? its also quite clear that the term didn't originate as a slur, yes it was once used as one but no longer is and didn't originally start out as one. so what's the fuss?

They do though and it's been a source of contention for the Native American community for years.

It's been a slur for indians since the 1700s.

It's not ok and it's about damn time they finally changed it.

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crucial2099 posted...

native americans themselves don't find the term offensive so why are a buncha white people getting ticked off? its also quite clear that the term didn't originate as a slur, yes it was once used as one but no longer is and didn't originally start out as one. so what's the fuss?

Yes it still is a slur

Washington Warriors sounds pretty good to me
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Washington Lobbyists.

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Wii_Shaker posted...

They do though and it's been a source of contention for the Native American community for years.

It's been a slur for indians since the 1700s.

It's not ok and it's about damn time they finally changed it.

Yeah, roll into a reservation and start throwing the word Redskin about around and see the reaction you from the local tribe.

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Wii_Shaker posted...

They do though and it's been a source of contention for the Native American community for years.

funny the metrics say otherwise

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/sports/poll-native-americans-attitudes-toward-the-washington-redskins-team-name/2034/

overwhelmingly unoffensive to many indians

crucial2099 posted...

funny the metrics say otherwise

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/sports/poll-native-americans-attitudes-toward-the-washington-redskins-team-name/2034/

overwhelmingly unoffensive to many indians

Horseshit poll

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/02/21/a-new-study-contradicts-a-washington-post-poll-about-how-native-americans-view-the-redskins-name/

there are also several accounts of indian chiefs referring to themselves as red skins and also calling whites white skins. thats just how they identified themselves. wasn't disparaging.

educate yourselves please

crucial2099 posted...

funny the metrics say otherwise

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/sports/poll-native-americans-attitudes-toward-the-washington-redskins-team-name/2034/

overwhelmingly unoffensive to many indians

A poll of 504 people doesn't equal irrefutable proof that the word isn't offensive. It's a racial slur. Stop defending it.

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crucial2099 posted...

funny the metrics say otherwise

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/sports/poll-native-americans-attitudes-toward-the-washington-redskins-team-name/2034/

overwhelmingly unoffensive to many indians

Way to post a study from 2016 to push your false narrative. There is one from this year that tells a different story.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/4/redskins-name-offensive-plurality-native-americans/

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It's a huge, diverse group of people from different areas of the continent with many differing opinions. Same for whether they refer to themselves as "Indians" or Native Americans. They should still probably just change the name.

ScazarMeltex posted...

Way to post a study from 2016 to push your false narrative. There is one from this year that tells a different story.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/4/redskins-name-offensive-plurality-native-americans/

lmao the year doesnt matter. in fact you'll prob get a more accurate reading if its a few years old especially if it predates the cancel culture mobs who wanna make everything racist. and your poll is bogus for every fake poll there are about a dozen more that prove me right

https://www.npr.org/2016/05/20/478886120/poll-finds-most-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-redskins/new-poll-finds-90-percent-native-americans-not-offended-redskins-name

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/washington-redskins-name-controversy-native-americans-racism-white-people-a9058881.html

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/just-how-many-indians-think-redskins-is-a-slur/1955392/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1943682-roger-goodell-claims-9-out-of-10-native-americans-support-redskins-nickname

crucial2099 posted...

lmao the year doesnt matter. in fact you'll prob get a more accurate reading if its a few years old especially if it predates the cancel culture mobs who wanna make everything racist. and your poll is bogus for every fake poll there are about a dozen more that prove me right

https://www.npr.org/2016/05/20/478886120/poll-finds-most-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-redskins/new-poll-finds-90-percent-native-americans-not-offended-redskins-name

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/washington-redskins-name-controversy-native-americans-racism-white-people-a9058881.html

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/just-how-many-indians-think-redskins-is-a-slur/1955392/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1943682-roger-goodell-claims-9-out-of-10-native-americans-support-redskins-nickname

Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.


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FedEx, Nike and PepsiCo each received letters signed by 87 investment firms and shareholders worth a combined $620 billion asking the companies to sever ties with the team unless they change their controversial name, Adweek reported Wednesday.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29401445/stadium-sponsor-fedex-asks-redskins-change-nickname

Change is coming wether they like it or not

Redskins Football Club of Washington DC

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in fact many native americans see it as an honor to have a football team named after them. and 500 is more than enough sample size to gauge something, it skewed all the way to the unoffended side of the poll, another 1000 wouldn't have flipped the results. get real.

Wii_Shaker posted...

Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

actually you are. im providing facts you are not.

I always felt like the Chicago Blackhawks always had a good team name and its respectfully presented. I worked with a guy and his last name was Sixkiller and I always thought that was badass also. Surely they can come up with something good should they decide to change it.

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crucial2099 posted...

actually you are. im providing facts you are not.

Do you know any indians or indigenous Americans? No?

It's an offensive word. You may not find it offensive but it's a word of hate. You have no facts, only sample data.

I'm not going to waste time explaining it to you because apparently you don't really give a fuck about cultures outside of your own perception.

Only human trash would champion the perpetuation of racism.

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Wii_Shaker posted...

you have no facts, only sample data.

lol... yeaaaaaa on ignore you go buddy. you just lost all credibilty. bye bye

legendary_zell posted...

There's no conflict between the different problems. You can address both.

I have no plan to.

You best get to work if you want to address either.

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crucial2099 posted...

lol... yeaaaaaa on ignore you go buddy. you just lost all credibilty. bye bye

At least I'm not an open racist.

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*cites several polls from a variety of news sources both liberal and conservative*

"no facts"

lmao. good god, karen.

The Washington Lily Whites

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Literally the original name was Washington Warriors. Just use that. Is there some stupid naming conflict with GSW that might prevent that?

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Genuinely cant tell if the guy posting different news coverage of the same poll actually thinks each article is about a different poll or is just trolling. But on the off chance its not trolling...

crucial2099 posted...

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/just-how-many-indians-think-redskins-is-a-slur/1955392/

This is the only article you posted that does not reference the 2016 Washington Post poll thats already been refuted

it is also heavily anecdotal and mentions no poll period

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crucial2099 posted...

*cites several polls from a variety of news sources both liberal and conservative*

"no facts"

Dude, I am a Native American man, Blackfoot tribe. I'm telling you that the word is a slur for my people yet you insist otherwise.

Clearly you are living in a bubble. If your claims are so valid, explain why the team is changing the name from "Redskins" in the first place?


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crucial2099 posted...

lmao the year doesnt matter. in fact you'll prob get a more accurate reading if its a few years old especially if it predates the cancel culture mobs who wanna make everything racist. and your poll is bogus for every fake poll there are about a dozen more that prove me right

This might be the dumbest fucking concept I have ever heard in my entire time on gamefaqs.com. The year we are in is 2020. So it seems likely that the most accurate poll of people's opinions on a specific subject would be the most recent one, not one from 4 years ago. Like holy fuck man, you can't possibly be that goddamn dumb and still manage to function as a normal adult in society.

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crucial2099 posted...

in fact many native americans see it as an honor to have a football team named after them. and 500 is more than enough sample size to gauge something, it skewed all the way to the unoffended side of the poll, another 1000 wouldn't have flipped the results. get real.

Just stop guy. You don't have any business speaking for an entire group of people, especially one you are not a part of, especially one so large and diverse. I'm Native. I live on a reservation. That team name is something my tribe, and other tribes in the area, are very much against. I have friends and family from other tribes around the country, and up into Canada. I don't know a single one who is for the name.

Sure that name, that slur, has lost most of its bite over the years. Hell, if someone called me a redskin I would probably laugh. Shit, I've been called much worse for absolutely no reason other than the color of my skin. NBD. Older generations would definitely have a much stronger reaction. But it's still a slur, it's marginalizing, and it needs to go. No other group of people would have to deal with this. It wouldn't even be perpetuated, but here we are. Keep the colors and the best looking uniforms in football, just change the fucking name.

You don't understand the dynamics of being Native American. Shame and self-hate, beaten into us during colonization and the decades long boarding school era, play a big role in why some Natives are ok with that name. There are many of who would rather not make a fuss, would much rather go with flow, go against their best interests even, in the hopes that society won't notice they are Native. And then there of us, like myself, who are concentrating on solving issues and breaking negative cycles in their own community to really devote too much time to the name change, who are ok with the name if only because it's not even on their radar. Trust me, that has a big impact on the favorable polls you cherry-picked.

And I've just written a long ass post on fucking GameFAQS, trying to explain things to people who don't really give a shit.

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xMythic posted...

Just stop guy. You don't have any business speaking for an entire group of people, especially one you are not a part of, especially one so large and diverse. I'm Native. I live on a reservation. That team name is something my tribe, and other tribes in the area, are very much against. I have friends and family from other tribes around the country, and up into Canada. I don't know a single one who is for the name.

Sure that name, that slur, has lost most of its bite over the years. Hell, if someone called me a redskin I would probably laugh. Shit, I've been called much worse for absolutely no reason other than the color of my skin. NBD. Older generations would definitely have a much stronger reaction. But it's still a slur, it's marginalizing, and it needs to go. No other group of people would have to deal with this. It wouldn't even be perpetuated, but here we are. Keep the colors and the best looking uniforms in football, just change the fucking name.

You don't understand the dynamics of being Native American. Shame and self-hate, beaten into us during colonization and the decades long boarding school era, play a big role in why some Natives are ok with that name. There are many of who would rather not make a fuss, would much rather go with flow, go against their best interests even, in the hopes that society won't notice they are Native. And then there of us, like myself, who are concentrating on solving issues and breaking negative cycles in their own community to really devote too much time to the name change, who are ok with the name if only because it's not even on their radar. Trust me, that has a big impact on the favorable polls you cherry-picked.

And I've just written a long ass post on fucking GameFAQS, trying to explain things to people who don't really give a shit.

youre one native american. you do not represent the opinion of an entire people

xMythic posted...

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And I've just written a long ass post on fucking GameFAQS, trying to explain things to people who don't really give a shit.

Preach!

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crucial2099 posted...

youre one native american. you do not represent the opinion of an entire people

This is exactly why I don't bother posting a lot in topics like these. Some people's heads are made of fucking granite. Can't get through to them no matter what.

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