Poll of the Day > You think pop music will ever go away from the mass produced garbage model?

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Mead
06/27/20 3:38:10 PM
#101:


bulbinking posted...
Art is objective. People just appreciate different art for different reasons, and appreciating something as art does not automatically make it so.

youre wrong about this

just look at graffiti/street art

some people view it almost universally as graffiti that should be removed regardless of any artistry, and some other people view pretty much anything spray painted in public areas as a form of ambient artistry

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Jen0125
06/27/20 3:39:27 PM
#102:


So you think there's no talent in "mass produced" pop music? None of the beat creators, instrumental musicians or producers? None of the writers? The artists themselves who sing, dance and entertain? It's all lacking talent because you perceive it to be "mass produced" and popular?

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adjl
06/27/20 3:53:57 PM
#103:


Muscles posted...
Yeah, I guess nursery rhymes and orchestral masterpieces are on the same tier of quality since none of that matters

That has nothing to do with what I said. Try again.

bulbinking posted...
https://playback.fm/blog/science-proved-music-getting-worse

Despite the headline, all that "proved" is that music is getting simpler, which anyone who's ever looked at classical music can tell you has been happening for the last century. Heck, it actually debunks its own premise by pointing out that simpler music is better for easy listening/background music, supporting the idea that there is no objective "better" when it comes to music.

bulbinking posted...
People need to realize if anything can be art than nothing is art.

Not at all. "Anything can be art" is not "everything is art." Conditions still apply, just very vague ones like "anything that expresses creativity" or "anything deliberately portrayed," which still limit art by enough to make the concept functional. They just don't limit it more than is necessary.

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TheSlinja
06/27/20 3:57:59 PM
#104:


Muscles posted...
Are you serious? Pink Floyd, Rush, and Led Zeppelin aren't popular?
no I was assuming you didnt think current pop acts werent on the same level of popularity as they were because that would be stupid

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Muscles
06/27/20 4:34:26 PM
#105:


Mead posted...
youre wrong about this

just look at graffiti/street art

some people view it almost universally as graffiti that should be removed regardless of any artistry, and some other people view pretty much anything spray painted in public areas as a form of ambient artistry
But there are objective differences between a street art though, there are some masterpieces and others of low quality

Jen0125 posted...
So you think there's no talent in "mass produced" pop music? None of the beat creators, instrumental musicians or producers? None of the writers? The artists themselves who sing, dance and entertain? It's all lacking talent because you perceive it to be "mass produced" and popular?
I wouldn't necessarily say there's no talent, but they don't really get to showcase it because of the low quality of writing, I mean there are people with little to no talent in there but there's some almost every genre, including my personal favorites

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adjl
06/27/20 4:52:48 PM
#106:


Muscles posted...
But there are objective differences between a street art though, there are some masterpieces and others of low quality

Objective differences, sure. Objective quality assessments, less so, because that's just how art works.

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bulbinking
06/27/20 5:38:45 PM
#107:


Mead posted...
youre wrong about this

just look at graffiti/street art

some people view it almost universally as graffiti that should be removed regardless of any artistry, and some other people view pretty much anything spray painted in public areas as a form of ambient artistry

That goes against nothing I said.

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Muscles
06/27/20 6:12:42 PM
#108:


adjl posted...
Objective differences, sure. Objective quality assessments, less so, because that's just how art works.
I mean if its close sure either could be argued, but it would be foolish to say like Bach and bieber are on the same level

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ClarkDuke
06/27/20 7:12:51 PM
#109:


more of muscles vapid opinions stated as fact. remind us, what did you study in college, muscles?

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SunWuKung420
06/27/20 8:44:15 PM
#110:


When people stop gobbling up generic crap and praising it.

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