Current Events > Is it time for 261 (Politics Board) to be abolished?

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Kaliesto
06/25/20 7:31:06 PM
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Is it time for 261 (Politics Board) to be destroyed?


The reason I'm bringing this up because for too long I've been pretty silent of what 261 has been doing, and to the rest of GameFAQs in some extent. I'm going to point out the problems people have been having with that board as follows:

1) Extreme Ideology breeding ground
2) Lack of Respect & Decency
3) Slander & Accusations (I know some of you here have been called some things that were not true that comes from 261 mob mentality).
4) Toxic to the whole of GameFAQs; its literal cancer to this site.
5) Debates don't last long and go straight into a flaming war.
6) Their extreme behavior can affect other boards over time.
7) Potential Moderator Corruption due to lack of Oversight mainly with 261, but without evidence I cannot say if this is honestly true right now; only SBAllen knows.

I got off talking with a user here who has been here since 2000, and he was appalled what has happened around here lately. Honestly; I have noticed too the same problem over the years as well besides just 261, but however I want to focus mainly on 261 because of how much problems it creates for everyone else.

This is a video game site with a social aspect, but at the same time we all come here to be stress-free as well, and I believe 261's toxic environment has created too much problems that it needs to either be completely destroyed or be contained like LUE was contained years ago.

Their shit has to stop.

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I encourage others here to either agree or disagree with a detailed explanation on what should actually happen with 261.

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FL81
06/25/20 7:32:03 PM
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No, I don't want them taking refuge on CE

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Eevee-Trainer
06/25/20 7:40:38 PM
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FL81 posted...
No, I don't want them taking refuge on CE
This. It's a toxic shithole, but it serves a role as a containment zone. Isolate the toxic shit there, so it doesn't have to go on other boards.

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Tyranthraxus
06/25/20 7:41:51 PM
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Every time some shit goes down in 261 the assholes invariably end up here and I'd rather just not.

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Politics
06/25/20 7:42:09 PM
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I like that there is a board dedicated to me =3

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Kaliesto
06/25/20 7:42:14 PM
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I can understand that, but at the same time 261 gets away with too much.

The thing to consider is 261 operates on Mob Mentality, and destroying that board completely fragments their mob.

Over time if they were to cause trouble on other boards they wouldn't last very long because other boards wouldn't tolerate their shit since other boards don't operate like 261 does.

@FL81

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wackyteen
06/25/20 7:44:08 PM
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Kaliesto posted...


The thing to consider is 261 operates on Mob Mentality, and destroying that board completely fragments their mob.
No, because then they'll just come here.

Where else they gonna go, PotD?

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Kaliesto
06/25/20 7:52:37 PM
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wackyteen posted...
No, because then they'll just come here.

Where else they gonna go, PotD?

Here is a example on what can be done, and this came up as a perfect example recently -

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/06/reddit-racism-open-letter/612958/

They had a solution for their problem to prevent what some people are afraid of, and GameFAQS can come up with a similar solution.

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CommonJoe
06/25/20 7:53:57 PM
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They need to just carpet ban the belligerents that goad people into calling them an asshole so they can get you suspended. My mod history is literally just repetitive sequences of being gaslit by people so hard I dont have a choice but to tell them to go fuck themselves and then I get modded.

Its one thing if a convo just gets heated but not when its the same people pulling this shit with every user they come into contact with.

I mean hell how long was it before Bond actually got banned? And for all I know hes still there.


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wackyteen
06/25/20 7:55:15 PM
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CommonJoe posted...
being gaslit by people so hard I dont have a choice but to tell them to go f*** themselves and then I get modded.
then just don't.... do that?

Just disengage and block them if they're arguing that much in bad faith

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CommonJoe
06/25/20 7:58:59 PM
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wackyteen posted...
then just don't.... do that?

Just disengage and block them if they're arguing that much in bad faith

Youre missing the point. Part of what makes 261 a shitty place is the continued tolerance of those people.

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Kaliesto
06/25/20 8:02:26 PM
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wackyteen posted...
then just don't.... do that?

Just disengage and block them if they're arguing that much in bad faith

Its more to do with the image of the site itself than simply blocking them over and over again, I think it would be bad optics if GameFAQs was known for that terrible board.

261 to me had its chance to be in good faith time and time again, but they all have not been acting in good faith at all.

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Hicks233
06/25/20 8:06:57 PM
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You're describing a shit hole, just like this one - only a slightly different flavour.

Shit is shit.

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Smackems
06/25/20 8:10:20 PM
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Nah let them eat shit over there

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Kaliesto
06/25/20 8:16:23 PM
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Hicks233 posted...
You're describing a shit hole, just like this one - only a slightly different flavour.

Shit is shit.

The difference with CE is that we're not concentrated shit, and we don't spread our shit everywhere.

Hell we're all like this one dysfunctional, but lovable family on CE sometimes too.

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DarxWingDuck
06/25/20 10:17:46 PM
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Glad to see others recognize that board for what it is... pure toxicity and hate filled extremists. They are either circle jerking or trying to shame anyone who disagrees with them.

I don't know how anyone could ever take the 261 seriously. It's truly an abomination but if you get rid of it then they would just have to make all political conversation a modable offense... we certainly don't want that crap leaking onto other boards.
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SpellcasterGoat
06/25/20 10:18:58 PM
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FL81 posted...
No, I don't want them taking refuge on CE

They already do
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KamenRiderBlade
06/25/20 10:19:34 PM
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It's a containment board, it exists to contain the dangerous individuals in one area from not infecting the others.

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Crazyman93
06/25/20 10:20:02 PM
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Kaliesto posted...


1) Extreme Ideology breeding ground
2) Lack of Respect & Decency
3) Slander & Accusations (I know some of you here have been called some things that were not true that comes from 261 mob mentality).
4) Toxic to the whole of GameFAQs; its literal cancer to this site.
5) Debates don't last long and go straight into a flaming war.
You just described any political topic on CE

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Ving_Rhames
06/25/20 10:20:10 PM
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This sounds kinda like CE to me lol

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bladegash
06/25/20 10:22:14 PM
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No just rename it the cesspool and let it be.

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pick4six
06/25/20 10:25:47 PM
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I just went and check, it is so tame campared to CE lmao

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MarqueeSeries
06/25/20 10:28:27 PM
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I really dont see much of a difference between CE and 261, besides the fact that you sometimes get some fun non political topics here

But even those can often descend into toxicity so who really gives a shit?
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YellowSUV
06/25/20 10:29:35 PM
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lol

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Houston
06/25/20 10:33:26 PM
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I'm not too familiar with this Politics board, but I think censorship is bad. GameFAQs, IMO, is one of the last bastion, so to say, forum sites that are somewhat heavily populated. Every viewpoint and post can be viewed. Reddit hides things and creates a system where mob mentality rules what you see. Reddit is awful for the most part, if you want to have balanced discussion.

Let people speak their minds. Modding should really only ever be done if a post is spamming or truly "disruptive" or deliberately spoiling things. Let freedom of speech reign free (of course with the obvious exception of literally promoting violence, threats and stuff)

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fhqwhgads
06/25/20 10:38:07 PM
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never been there but all political topics should be on there and only there.

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BudDupree48
06/25/20 10:48:33 PM
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its the worst possible destination on gamefaqs

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Crazyman93
06/25/20 11:01:40 PM
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Houston posted...
Every viewpoint and post can be viewed
Not true, if I said, for example "the holocaust is a lie and Hitler did nothing wrong" I would probably be insta-warned.

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bobbysjoby2
06/25/20 11:08:06 PM
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FL81 posted...
No, I don't want them taking refuge on CE
Lmao what a great reason
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Alpha218
06/25/20 11:09:45 PM
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lol, let them stay over there. There's a reason why the PS4 board voted to have politics threads banned

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Southernfatman
06/25/20 11:22:45 PM
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A good portion of it is the same users engaging the same trouble makers and trolls for over a decade now.

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Guide
06/25/20 11:24:17 PM
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Hicks233 posted...
You're describing a shit hole, just like this one - only a slightly different flavour.

Shit is shit.

CE's bad, but 261 makes us look like a fucking academic board.

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Guide
06/25/20 11:26:45 PM
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Houston posted...
I'm not too familiar with this Politics board, but I think censorship is bad. GameFAQs, IMO, is one of the last bastion, so to say, forum sites that are somewhat heavily populated. Every viewpoint and post can be viewed. Reddit hides things and creates a system where mob mentality rules what you see. Reddit is awful for the most part, if you want to have balanced discussion.

Let people speak their minds. Modding should really only ever be done if a post is spamming or truly "disruptive" or deliberately spoiling things. Let freedom of speech reign free (of course with the obvious exception of literally promoting violence, threats and stuff)

I agree with this, in a sense. Thing is, I probably hold a broader scale of what constitutes spamming than you do. For example, antivax is based on nothing but lies. Proven time and again, but there are people who keep repeating it. That's spam by my count.

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Unsugarized_Foo
06/25/20 11:27:57 PM
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Don't let the roaches scatter

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Crazyman93
06/25/20 11:42:52 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
A good portion of it is the same users engaging the same trouble makers and trolls for over a decade now.
Amazing how that can be said about CE too...

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bobbysjoby2
06/26/20 12:07:26 AM
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Ppl are far more fun here, the politics board has way too much basement incel flavored rage/angst
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Axiom
06/26/20 12:08:44 AM
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Sure. While we're at it let's get rid of OT and PotD as well. Let's just flood all the boards with the worst users on gamefaqs
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Disrespector
06/26/20 1:02:48 AM
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Meh, you get to know who the trolls are and you can safely laugh at everything they post

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Tyranthraxus
06/26/20 1:05:21 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
You just described any political topic on CE

But he didn't describe CE.

261 has got folks like boxy making a quadrillion alts just to shit up the place so you can't really even use the block feature.

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KamenRiderBlade
06/26/20 1:14:35 AM
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RoadsterUFO posted...
We should be embracing immigration. (;
They need to stay contained in their own board.

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KamenRiderBlade
06/26/20 2:21:14 AM
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RoadsterUFO posted...
Why?
Why do you want them to spread everywhere?

Aren't you happy with CE the way it is?

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KamenRiderBlade
06/26/20 2:50:25 AM
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RoadsterUFO posted...
We should be accepting of other cultures.
Did you ask the rest of CE and see if we wanted them here?

Or are you demanding to let them in? To hell with other people's opinions, etc.

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Crazyman93
06/26/20 2:58:40 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
But he didn't describe CE.

261 has got folks like boxy making a quadrillion alts just to shit up the place so you can't really even use the block feature.
Like CE has had in its history? Or did you forget Brutal and Sillyknees have used this board?

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Houston
06/26/20 2:58:43 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Did you ask the rest of CE and see if we wanted them here?

Or are you demanding to let them in? To hell with other people's opinions, etc.

Roadster makes a valid point. We need to be more open minded and LET THEM IN. Anyone should have the right to post on CE. We should also stop labeling specific boards by names because thats extremely problematic

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KamenRiderBlade
06/26/20 3:03:40 AM
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Houston posted...
Roadster makes a valid point. We need to be more open minded and LET THEM IN. Anyone should have the right to post on CE. We should also stop labeling specific boards by names because thats extremely problematic
I like the segregation of all the various boards.

It gives a particular PURPOSE & TOPICALITY to what we should be talking about.

Console Boards talk about ___ Console

___ Game talks about ___ Games.

There's a board for just about every subject that you give a damn about.

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Crazyman93
06/26/20 3:05:29 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
I like the segregation of all the various boards.

It gives a particular PURPOSE & TOPICALITY to what we should be talking about.
You realize they're conservatives trolling by throwing leftist immigration theory back in your face right?

I lean right and even I think it's stupid and poorly thought out.

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