Current Events > Who's the WORSE president: George W. Bush or Donald J. Trump?

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au_gold
06/23/20 8:35:19 AM
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Who's worse?






Be honest.

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Swagger_Dagger
06/23/20 8:37:43 AM
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All Trump needs is a body count to cement things. He's already got a big one from Covid. Over 120,000 deaths.

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monkmith
06/23/20 8:37:48 AM
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for as bad as the middle east bullshit that bush started was, i'm not living there so i dont care nearly as much about that as i do domestic policies. and on domestic policies, trump has shit the bed way worse then bush did.

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ModLogic
06/23/20 8:38:03 AM
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monkmith
06/23/20 8:38:47 AM
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ModLogic posted...
truman commited genocide...
reciprocal genocide.

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Swagger_Dagger
06/23/20 8:39:01 AM
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ModLogic posted...
truman commited genocide...
He said worse, not worst... lrn2read

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Antifar
06/23/20 8:43:36 AM
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This is increasingly becoming a tough question to answer.
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coh
06/23/20 8:44:43 AM
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Swagger_Dagger posted...
All Trump needs is a body count to cement things. He's already got a big one from Covid. Over 120,000 deaths.
You can't blame Trump for Corona. Come on now
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solosnake
06/23/20 8:48:21 AM
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I would gladly take Bush for the rest of my life over 4 more years of Trump.

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KiwiTerraRizing
06/23/20 8:48:55 AM
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I think they are equally bad, you want to say Trump because he is a worse human being.

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monkmith
06/23/20 8:49:01 AM
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coh posted...
You can't blame Trump for Corona. Come on now
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-administration-accused-withholding
-14-billion-meant-expand-coronavirus-testing-2998418

he actively withheld large amounts of funding to 'keep tests low' so that he could 'keep numbers low'...

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Were_Wyrm
06/23/20 8:49:11 AM
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Donald JOHN Trump

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Swagger_Dagger
06/23/20 8:51:01 AM
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I really love asking the question: How do you think Trump would have responded to 9/11?

We'd all be dead right now

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Bumjuice001
06/23/20 8:51:56 AM
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Trump might be an idiot but Bush got the country into a war over false intel. Not against retaliation after 9/11 but the whole WMDs in Iraq situation was quite the blunder. You also have his response to Hurricane Katrina as well as the recession.

Well actually who knows. Trump has divided the country more than ever in our lifetimes. His administration also goofed a global pandemic and seems to be more and more corrupt as time goes by. Were just lucky he doesnt have Dick Cheney in his corner.

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/23/20 9:17:40 AM
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George W. Bush was at least a president.

I don't know what the fuck Trump is.

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The Top Crusader
06/23/20 9:21:55 AM
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It would be interesting (and scary) to swap Trump back in for Bush in various circumstances.

Like Cindy Sheehan lost her son in the war and then protested at... could've been the White House, but maybe it was the Crawford Ranch? Or both? I forget, but she was basically there all the time protesting Bush. Bush didn't bring it up. Trump would be ranting about her every day.


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lurk
06/23/20 9:24:18 AM
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solosnake posted...
I would gladly take Bush for the rest of my life over 4 more years of Trump.
Yeah fuck gay rights! Fuck action on climate change. Fuck yeah
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lurk
06/23/20 9:29:49 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
We can definitely blame Trump for his awful response to corona directly resulting in almost a hundred thousand deaths. Not all deaths are on him, but studies have shown deaths would have drastically been reduced had he taken things seriously a few weeks earlier rather than blow it off so he could have rallies.
Thats on America in general though.

trump didnt make you go to that bar. He didnt force you to go out without a mask.

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Tactical_Spork
06/23/20 9:30:36 AM
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lurk posted...
Yeah fuck gay rights! Fuck action on climate change. Fuck yeah
Donald Trump has at best been equally damaging to both of these, and in many cases has in fact been far worse.

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TheMikh
06/23/20 9:30:48 AM
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whole lotta short memory voters in this poll

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solosnake
06/23/20 9:30:55 AM
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lurk posted...
Thats on America in general though.

trump didnt make you go to that bar. He didnt force you to go out without a mask.
Trump called it a hoax and has done everything in his power to politicize the virus. He literally couldnt have done more to make this worse

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lurk
06/23/20 9:31:18 AM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
Donald Trump has at best been equally damaging to both of these.
Four years of trump is bad but decades of Bush would destroy the world.
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The Popo
06/23/20 9:32:23 AM
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Bush was a president who had policies I disagreed with and definitely made his share of costly mistakes (Iraq War & Hurricane Katrina response to name two), but I still always got the impression that he was taking actions for what he felt was for the betterment of the country.

Trump uses the presidency for his own personal gain and takes actions that will weaken the country specifically for his own benefit (labeling the media as liars for criticizing him, weakening the COVID response so it doesnt seem like a big deal, deflecting the responsibility from himself to the governors, etc).

Give me 8 more years of Bush over 4 more years of Trump.

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lurk
06/23/20 9:32:56 AM
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solosnake posted...
Trump called it a hoax and has done everything in his power to politicize the virus. He literally couldnt have done more to make this worse


i live in Seoul and 99 percent of the people here are masked.

i keep hearing how the mask is politicized back home.

if true, thats on americans, not trump.
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solosnake
06/23/20 9:33:40 AM
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lurk posted...
if true, thats on americans, not trump.
Thats where you are wrong. Its 100% on Trump.

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lurk
06/23/20 9:35:37 AM
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solosnake posted...
Thats where you are wrong. Its 100% on Trump.
Lol arent there dems that are anti mask? Nobody is forcing these people to be anti mask.

really starting to think Bush is worse now.
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Ruvan22
06/23/20 9:43:16 AM
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lurk posted...
Lol arent there dems that are anti mask? Nobody is forcing these people to be anti mask.

really starting to think Bush is worse now.

Who are the dems that are anti mask?

If you are living in Seoul you may be missing out on how much Trump downplayed everything and encouraged people not to take it seriously
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monkmith
06/23/20 9:43:21 AM
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lurk posted...
i live in Seoul and 99 percent of the people here are masked.

i keep hearing how the mask is politicized back home.

if true, thats on americans, not trump.


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TheMikh
06/23/20 9:49:43 AM
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monkmith posted...

trump has been outspoken in his anti-quarantine/shutdown sentiment, but i haven't paid sufficiently close enough attention to notice any utterances pertaining to the mask, if you'd like to offer some examples

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lurk
06/23/20 9:50:23 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Who are the dems that are anti mask?

If you are living in Seoul you may be missing out on how much Trump downplayed everything and encouraged people not to take it seriously
i mean democratic voters who dont wear mask exist do they not?

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lurk
06/23/20 9:50:44 AM
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monkmith posted...
Wrong I am voting for Biden
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TheMikh
06/23/20 9:52:44 AM
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The Popo posted...

for all my grievances about trump domestically, war haunts my conscience unlike anything else - state sanctioned mass murder on my tax dollar

i also have old/childhood friends who are permanently disabled or with spouses that are as a direct result of the wars

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lurk
06/23/20 9:52:57 AM
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I keep hearing nycs density as an excuse as to why there are so many deaths.

i live somewhere even denser and there are less deaths here.
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solosnake
06/23/20 9:54:29 AM
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lurk posted...
I keep hearing nycs density as an excuse as to why there are so many deaths.

i live somewhere even denser and there are less deaths here.
you also dont have a leader going around telling people its a hoax and that masks are bad either

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monkmith
06/23/20 9:56:07 AM
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TheMikh posted...
trump has been outspoken in his anti-quarantine/shutdown sentiment, but i haven't paid sufficiently close enough attention to notice any utterances pertaining to the mask, if you'd like to offer some examples
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-mocks-joe-
biden-wear-face-mask-public/

like with many things trump does, its indirect. shames people for wearing them, talks about how masks aren't 'manly', dumb shit like that. and when you're a cult leader, your followers eat that shit up.

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TheMikh
06/23/20 9:59:51 AM
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lurk posted...
I keep hearing nycs density as an excuse as to why there are so many deaths.

i live somewhere even denser and there are less deaths here.
i brought up japan, which is somewhat similar to the rok with respect to having high population densities but low infection rates, in another thread - the response was that it seems to have less to do with density (albeit a factor) than people exercising following public health guidelines and exercising proper discretion, rather than disregarding it for social or political reasons

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TheMikh
06/23/20 10:04:42 AM
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monkmith posted...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-mocks-joe-
biden-wear-face-mask-public/

like with many things trump does, its indirect. shames people for wearing them, talks about how masks aren't 'manly', dumb shit like that. and when you're a cult leader, your followers eat that shit up.
yeah, that really was not a good move on trump's part

...also, biden lowkey looks badass in a mask and aviators

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BeyondWalls
06/23/20 10:08:32 AM
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Trump and its not even close. Bush was bad but he was more of an ignorant man desperately trying to do the right thing but failing. Trump straight up only cares about himself and would gladly watch all of us burn just to slightly boost his own wealth. Ive lived through like 7 presidents and Trump is as close to pure evil as Ive ever seen in the White House.

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gunplagirl
06/23/20 10:10:00 AM
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I don't remember Bush or his campaign sharing literal Nazi symbols for political enemies. Nothing about a known white nationalist being a top advisor for him, either.

The only thing worse than a neo Nazi is multiple neo Nazis.

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Coloradough
06/23/20 10:13:13 AM
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BeyondWalls posted...
Trump and its not even close. Bush was bad but he was more of an ignorant man desperately trying to do the right thing but failing. Trump straight up only cares about himself and would gladly watch all of us burn just to slightly boost his own wealth. Ive lived through like 7 presidents and Trump is as close to pure evil as Ive ever seen in the White House.

not even close cause Trump is a jerk? Haven't over 1million people died due to the Iraq War in some way?

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pinky0926
06/23/20 10:17:44 AM
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It used to be the case where you could simply say, "Trump is an asshole, but look how many people Dubya killed, or "think of the cost of the iraq war, whereas Trump is doing good for the economy (apparently)".

Now those numbers are looking a lot closer.

Bush has some hideous, inexcusable marks on his record, but I doubt even he could have been so uniformly...wrong...on every single issue.

Either way, not a bar that really matters.

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Coloradough
06/23/20 10:18:39 AM
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RoadsterUFO posted...
He caused a trade war and the billions of people of the developing world are left to suffer from the protectionist lunacy of Trump and other world leaders. Being starved off and deprived of resources that would raise living standards is preferable to being off by an invasion in the same way that heart disease is preferable to a gun shot to the head.

you really overestimate America's power in the world. Most of the other 95% of the world never thinks about America.

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ThyCorndog
06/23/20 10:21:59 AM
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before covid - Bush hands down
today - idk, both are bad

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Smashingpmkns
06/23/20 10:22:52 AM
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Bush is a war criminal responsible for Abu Ghraib and many other atrocities. Trump is an absolute garbage human being and tyrant but I really think these comparisons are better off left alone.

The Bush rose tinted glasses are really weird. Like imagine thinking the dude failed up into killing millions of people lol
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TheMikh
06/23/20 10:23:04 AM
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Coloradough posted...
Haven't over 1million people died due to the Iraq War in some way?
what's more: long-term/multigenerational health consequences from use of hazardous war materials - sicknesses associated with depleted uranium, birth defects, and what not

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