Current Events > The Texas response to increasing covid is kind of fucked up

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The guy basically says don't worry if you get it we've got a hospital bed and ventilator we can put you on after we put you in a medically induced coma as a last desperate attempt to save your life after you get infected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtvsbMuGaGM

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its happening in most states with rising cases

we cant afford to shutdown. the economy must continue at the cost of many lives! otherwise everybody in the country will suffer. the few sacrificed for the many. thats the system we live and thrive to sustain in.

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The deaths are still low. All these surging states aren't having NY numbers where over 700 people are dying a day.

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FreezerDoor posted...

The deaths are still low. All these surging states aren't having NY numbers where over 700 people are dying a day.

People on this board think 1 case = 2 deaths

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HBOSS posted...

its happening in most states with rising cases

we cant afford to shutdown. the economy must continue at the cost of many lives! otherwise everybody in the country will suffer. the few sacrificed for the many. thats the system we live and thrive to sustain in.

The fact that the richest and most powerful country in the world cannot "afford" to shut down should be a total humiliation for the entire American government.

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I live in Houston, and have multiple friends/family members who work in large hospitals. ICUs are nearly filled, and cases are surging like crazy.

Wish we had a leader who actually cared about all the deaths.

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Would you kindly sacrifice your grandparents so that money machine can go brrrr.

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FreezerDoor posted...

The deaths are still low. All these surging states aren't having NY numbers where over 700 people are dying a day.

It doesnt go from 0 dying to 700 dying/Day in a single day. The incubation time is 5-14 days and most who die do so after a couple weeks of illness.

A common pattern with COVID-19 is that you get moderately ill, then start to feel better and suddenly youre crashing.

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There isnt an economy in the world that can sustain multiple, or long term, shutdowns. The best thing to do is take necessary steps to reduce infection(hand washing, masks, etc.) and learn to live with the virus as we have with every virus in the past.

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we need to stop thinking only of deaths, we don't know how devastating this virus can be long-term
no one should get it at all

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Someone needs to wheel Governor Lame Legs right off into the sunset.

scorpion41 posted...

There isnt an economy in the world that can sustain multiple, or long term, shutdowns. The best thing to do is take necessary steps to reduce infection(hand washing, masks, etc.) and learn to live with the virus as we have with every virus in the past.

I agree, but dipshit governor is refusing to make face masks mandatory, instead leaving it to the mayors and private businesses to enforce, esentially turning poor little teenager working the cashier at Jack In The Box into law enforcement against a gun toting populous obsessed with their so-called freedom.

He also refuses to scale back capacity of bars and other packed areas from 75%.

Guerrilla Soldier posted...

we need to stop thinking only of deaths, we don't know how devastating this virus can be long-term
no one should get it at all

Also, just because you didn't die doesn't mean it didn't really suck.
The only person I sort of know who got it ended up in ICU and on a ventilator. There was one day that the staff really seemed to be prepping his dad for his death and expressed uncertainty about if he would make it. His family couldn't visit, so they had to rely on a few calls a day from the nurse for updates. He did pull through and make it but he was still sick a month after getting out of the hospital and still doesn't feel the way he did before. He's 32 and that was like 2 months ago.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

The fact that the richest and most powerful country in the world cannot "afford" to shut down should be a total humiliation for the entire American government.

What does Lichtenstein have to do with this?

A nation is only going to have the funds to run services as long as that economy keeps running. The amount of debt that the US has as a nation should be enough to remind you how fragile economic status is.

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Yeah our governor is an idiot at best and a corrupt asshole at worst.

Texas is a shitshow.

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scorpion41 posted...

There isnt an economy in the world that can sustain multiple, or long term, shutdowns. The best thing to do is take necessary steps to reduce infection(hand washing, masks, etc.) and learn to live with the virus as we have with every virus in the past.

Europe seems to be doing ok.
https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/health/coronavirus-response/jobs-and-economy-during-coronavirus-pandemic_en



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MFBKBass5 posted...

I live in Houston, and have multiple friends/family members who work in large hospitals. ICUs are nearly filled, and cases are surging like crazy.

Wish we had a leader who actually cared about all the deaths.

What do they do when the ICUs get filled? Let people drop dead on the subway/streets?

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REMercsChamp posted...

What do they do when the ICUs get filled? Let people drop dead on the subway/streets?

it's called triage, the same thing you'd see on a battlefield. you look at the patients and decide who's more likely to live if you put them on a ventilator...

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Blightzkrieg posted...

The fact that the richest and most powerful country in the world cannot "afford" to shut down should be a total humiliation for the entire American government.

Im sure the rich is loving their little bitch boys that get that easily manipulated

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monkmith posted...

it's called triage, the same thing you'd see on a battlefield. you look at the patients and decide who's more likely to live if you put them on a ventilator...

they did this in italy. we saw how things played out.
it was playing god at that point. people died.

likely going to see that happen where the ICU's are getting filled.
the US version of it playing out.
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Republicans don't see non rich people as people. They see us as expendable worker drones. They'll gladly sacrifice us to continue propping up the rich.

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ScazarMeltex posted...

Europe seems to be doing ok.
https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/health/coronavirus-response/jobs-and-economy-during-coronavirus-pandemic_en

This is what I've been saying for a long time, we are a laughing stock. No country in Europe had multiple shutdowns, they had one real one that lasted until they started going down their slope. Republicans don't get that. Trumpers here were like "well Germany is opening up so why can't we" and this right here shows why. Europe basically dragged their nuts across America's forehead, and then Trumpers still say America is the best. We fucked up in ever way imaginable, and we're still in the thick of this shit while they are pretty much clear of it.

Anyone bringing up that it isn't possible for multiple lockdowns as some sort of defense misses the point all together. You only need one lockdown, we were just stupid and pissed it away and now thousands of people will die because we didn't learn anything from these countries.

Southernfatman posted...

Republicans don't see anyone who isn't rich as people. They see us as expendable worker drones. They'll gladly sacrifice us to continue propping up the rich.

It's insane how many less privileged people they convinced to risk death so that they can keep riding private from mansion to mansion after this is over. You guys literally volunteer to be a pawn...

The funny thing is. They'll have all their knights, bishops and rooks set up to make sure you don't become a Queen like they are as well.

I don't know who the King is in this metaphor, it got away from me at the end.

Money is King? Since that's what everyone's protecting? There, I found it

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once you need a ventilator, you have like a 90% chance of dying. most people that far in, do no not survive. he leaves that part out. and yea, he leaves out that many that recover, recover with permanent damage to their body that is an effect of the virus still being covered up by all media and governments.

Zikten posted...

once you need a ventilator, you have like a 90% chance of dying. most people that far in, do no not survive. he leaves that part out. and yea, he leaves out that many that recover, recover with permanent damage to their body that is an effect of the virus still being covered up by all media and governments.

thing doctors dont tell you is that being on a ventilator in general massively increases your risk of dying. it bypasses all the parts of your respiratory system designed to keep out opportunistic pathogens and gives them a pathway right to their favorite growing spot.

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scorpion41 posted...

There isnt an economy in the world that can sustain multiple, or long term, shutdowns. The best thing to do is take necessary steps to reduce infection(hand washing, masks, etc.) and learn to live with the virus as we have with every virus in the past.

this is objectively not the best thing to do

the best thing to do is what taiwan and south korea did: contact trace infected people, quarantine those people, and test everyone

(and also still take necessary steps to reduce r0 of the virus)

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Sackgurl posted...

this is objectively not the best thing to do

the best thing to do is what taiwan and south korea did: contact trace infected people, quarantine those people, and test everyone

we've decided to go the opposite rout...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/tulsa-rally-trump/index.html

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Blightzkrieg posted...

The fact that the richest and most powerful country in the world cannot "afford" to shut down should be a total humiliation for the entire American government.

Look at the fucks we've had for leaders though trying to bankrupt us. We had a smooth talking criminal from 2008-2016, evil ass corrupt bush from 2000-2008, and then fucking clinton? Damn, we've been fucked for decades. All of them should be in jail.

It's not as a bad as it was in march. It's not as scary anymore, people aren't dying that much and hospitals aren't overflowing. And life has to live.

LinkScorbunny posted...

It's not as a bad as it was in march. It's not as scary anymore, people aren't dying that much and hospitals aren't overflowing. And life has to live.

That's not what people are saying here who live there they are saying the ICUs are filling up fast. You don't want to end up on a ventilator in a hospital even if they have room for you.

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Spooking posted...

He's telling you like it is. We're not going to shutdown again.

Can you at least socially distance and not congregate in big groups then

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REMercsChamp posted...

Can you at least socially distance and not congregate in big groups then

Nope, and mask wearing is for fear mongering lib sheep. Get out of here with your freedom trampling.

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Were so fucked

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Spooking posted...

He's telling you like it is. We're not going to shutdown again.

How exactly is he telling like it is?

Ruvan22 posted...

How exactly is he telling like it is?

He's saying exactly what it is. They aren't shutting down, and if you get seriously ill, apparently it's okay because they have an ICU bed with a ventilator to hook you up on in a desperate last attempt to bring people back from the brink of death

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