Current Events > TLOU2 is getting review bombed.

(+) Yeah! (+)

And the sky is blue. This happens with so many games that don't deserve it.

I'd rather wait for about a month to see how people think about it, when they don't let the honeymoon phase or their blind rage affect how they see the game.
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solosnake posted...

the first game is one of the most overrated games of all time, so its fitting in a weird way that the sequel gets shitted on more than it (probably) deserves

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Everything I don't like that critics like is a conspiracy

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kewldude475 posted...

IMO pretty much the only informative point of reviews are to point out gamebreaking glitches. Reviews are mostly just for entertainment. Other than that, if you can't tell if you wanna buy a game from looking up gameplay on Youtube, you probably aren't good at forming your own opinions, and need other people to tell you what to think.

Anyways, a 3.3 is actually a much higher user score than I expected the game to get on Metacritic. It was obvious the trolls were gonna raid the site and downvote the game regardless of whether or not they played it, or regardless of whether or not the game was fun to play.

Gameplay videos and demos don't necessarily tell you enough, though.

For example, I played the Too Human demo, thought it was amazing. There was a decent variety of enemies for a first level, what looked to be a progressive skill tree, the controls were fun. I was ready to day 1 this game.

But then it turned out there was no new content beyond the demo. All the enemies in that bit were all the enemies you'd ever see, beyond some bosses. The skill trees was almost entirely stat adjustments. The levels were all ugly, samey hallways. It was an incredible disappointment.

Then there's things like fighting games, where the fine details matter if you're a competitive person. SFV looked amazing in gameplay, but actually playing it ended up boring me to tears.

A good reviewer can explain things a simple clip or demo cannot. Yahtzee will describe plot problems that would take hours of spoilers to actually see or play through, or cover a consistent gameplay issue that won't show up in a demo.

Granted, it helps to know a reviewer's positions: Yahtzee doesn't like fighting games or competing, so obviously I have no reason to go to him for fighting games or competitive games.

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Propane4Sale posted...

What the actual fuck

Have you not seen all the "Why isn't Ellie hot anymore!?" comments?

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TheAnthraxBunny posted...

Propane4Sale posted...

What the actual fuck

Have you not seen all the "Why isn't Ellie hot anymore!?" comments?

No and I'm quite satisfied for that. I just wasn't aware there are gamers bitching about that.

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I saw a Twitter post claiming Sony placed DMCA's on a bunch of /v/ users criticizing the game, so people were speculating TLOU2 would get review bombed.

I'm not sure how much truth is in there though, but I wonder if that's the case here.

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Mecha Sonic posted...

so are people downvoting just because there's a lesbian in it or what

Doubtful.

Ironically, the only user who has complained since release on this site about that was also a guy who constantly rants about anti-SJWs and were themselves gay. They seem to have deleted their topic when people started pointing this out.

Prestoff posted...

Would you say this about any AAA game that gets universal praise from critics though? I highly doubt it and the big reason for this is politics.

I'd play it safe and say yes, assume it applies to all. These are products at the end of the day and with these sky high budgets and multiyear development cycles, companies are going to want to do anything they can to recoup costs and post a profit, especially when they allocate marketing budgets almost the size of their development budgets.

You can still get a general feeling by looking at what the players have to say and if they align with the reviewers. For instance, Breath of the Wild has had unanimous praise all around and in addition, we've had numerous gameplay footage and people getting hyped off of it, an incredible amount of support, funding, and interest in developing a Wii U emulator for the PC just to play it, and people talk positively about it to this day. The scoring awarded may be debatable, but it is an organic critically acclaimed game. It's safe to say that the reviewers weren't going overboard with their praise of BotW even with the Switch's (and subsequently Nintendo's) lifeline riding on its success.

The main point I want to get across is to not hold professional reviewers to a higher standard than literally any other gamer opinion. Given how they're paid to pump out new content as much as possible and as rapidly as possible and there's a legitimate threat of being blacklisted, you can be sure they can't be totally honest about their time playing the game. If you have personalities you trust, then go for it, but I say this for paid professionals of a consumer hobby product review in general.

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Gamefaqs.Gamespot.com getting GameSHAT in the comments and dislike bar for that 8/10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8o9aUuaSX0

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What's the problem?

the game was doomed once IT LEAKED, it was also doomed the minute

IT ALL PLAYED THE SAME as Left Behind.

This is not a FUN Game, this is a game full of disgusting violence and depression filled moments


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Joeydollaz posted...

What's the problem?

the game was doomed once IT LEAKED, it was also doomed the minute

IT ALL PLAYED THE SAME as Left Behind.

This is not a FUN Game, this is a game full of disgusting violence and depression filled moments

Same as the first. Straight up misery porn. I hated the first game and no way I'm touching this.


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Anyone who enjoyed the first game will have a lot of fun playing this game. I guess if you REALLY hate the story it would ruin the fun, but honestly aside from some cringey moments it's not bad at all.

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The_Scarecrow posted...

Thats not what gatekeeping means. You suggested that I look up what irony means so take your own advice and look up what gatekeeping means. Everyone in that topic disagreed with you but youre too far gone to see that. You ignored almost every single of them quoting you and explaining to you why you were wrong because of your strange fixation to prove how Im some horrible human being time and time again even though you know nothing about me.

Address what I said about your Pokemon comments, too. Also, explain why youre still here if youre embarrassed to be around gamers. Youre throwing shade at people for shitting on TLOU Part II while many of them never played it even though you pulled the same stunt with Sword and Shield for months before it released.

I guess it takes a Francis to know one, huh?

Lets do you a favour and well both define Gatekeeping

> Gatekeeping: when someone takes it upon themselves to decide who does or does not have access or rights to a community or

The_Scarecrow posted...
Again, sorry you're late to this and want to weigh in but nobody cares about what you think. If you talk to Etika's remaining fanbase, his friends and loved ones, etc. you would see that all of them are trying to heal and remember Etika in a positive light. Etika's whole channel and vibe was positivity and spreading love which you would know if you knew who he was but you clearly don't. Your ignorance is astounding.

Yeah. Thats exactly what you did. You tried to dismiss anyone else who wants to discuss the situation based on the 3 Fs Family, friends and fan base you tried to gatekeep the timing of the discussion in two senses. One that its too late as quoted above. And two, that discussing it in the same month as the date of his birth was also poor timing.

As for the everyone in that topic that disagree with me. Youre referring to UnfairRepresent and Delirious_Beard. Thats it. Strong allies Im sure. Not that it actually matters it was only those two, if it was actually everyone as you claim it still wouldnt phase me because CE isnt a place where I look for allies. Its not hard for a gang of questionable users to all align with terrible opinions.

Stop trying to lie when the archives exists and it takes 30 seconds to look this shit up.

Ive been here since 2002 and I dont plan on going anywhere sorry to disappoint.

The_Scarecrow posted...

Also, I cannot recall you saying Sword and Shield would flop. However, you did make some very stupid comments by comparing it to Crackdown 3 and giving the game a score before it even released unless you bought a game you clearly had a lot of issues with before it came out. Its funny that gamers are known for complaining about games theyre never played on internet message boards. Something you may have done yourself.

Quality wise I absolutely would compare Pokmon to Crackdown 3, hence why I made the comparison. I dont give scores to games? As far as I remember that definitely doesnt sound like me.

I will judge a Pokmon game from trailers alone because of a 20 something year history with the series. Theres enough pedigree and theres never been one mainline game Ive seen a trailer of and not completely understood how it works. When a game doesnt change they much in 20 years you get a good idea of how its gonna play.


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Skiggie posted...

Same as the first. Straight up misery porn. I hated the first game and no way I'm touching this.

man if you thought the first game was misery porn, this shitty game is on another level

I loved the first and won't touch this one

This game deserves no lower than a 4 and no higher than a 6. From a narrative stand point i was left pretty disappointed. From a gameplay stand point even more so. Its a mediocre game that pushed no boundaries except for identity politics and it will suffer idiocy because of it.

I expected more after tlou, yes I was left disappointed. Do I regret my purchase? Not when I bought resident evil 3 remake at full price.

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Barber102 posted...

identity politics

*takes a drink*

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Doom_Art posted...

*takes a drink*

lol, for real.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB20A8CitRU

Pretty deep and sensibly put together review. Also the first and only person so far to basically say the game is boring and outdated.

So where the fuck are all these 10s coming from??? :o

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Propane4Sale posted...

So where the fuck are all these 10s coming from??? :o

from reviewers with different opinions, i guess?

iunno why people are having such a hard time with this

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^ iirc, he said he could see how people would give it 9s and 10s


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coh posted...

Would take that over the paid reviews by "professionals"

even if one of those reviews is in russian and another is either broken English or a 6 year old child?

Couldnt just be that its bad, espically compared to the first.

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ZeroX91 posted...

Couldnt just be that its bad, espically compared to the first.

Having played the first and now going through the second one I just don't see how anyone could call it "bad"

The graphics might be the best console game I've ever seen. Gameplay is just like part 1 but Ellie has the ability to jump which opens up a fuckton of new traversal options.

Combat wise you have a lot more choices in part 2 on how to handle certain situations. Partly because of the expanded controls, but also the environments are much larger and spread out allowing you to flank people from behind a lot easier.

If you hate the fact that the main character is lesbian then I guess you'll hate the game, but it's certainly not a "bad" game by any standard.

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it's possible, but when you consider people have had an issue with the game before its release (leaks, "identity politics", etc.), and an aggregate of 3 something out of 10 in user reviews, then idk

edit: at post 175

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Doom_Art posted...

*takes a drink*

yeah because people are fucked and act like dipshits. Im not referring to my self i had no problem with ellie being gay or the main character in fact i was more than happy to play as ellie. But hardcore right wingers and left wingers succumb to identity politics and its dragging this game down. They get suckered into being morons unfortunately this is what society has become.

anyone who rates the game 0 or 1 clearly is someone who has been suckered by identity politics. Anyone who rates it 9-10 clearly is either a paid shill(reviewer) or also is suckered by identity politics. This game deserves neither a 1 or a 9 it has done nothing new, has a even less than spectacular story than the emotional roller coaster of the first game. Its average than doesnt makemit a bad game by any stretch of the imagination.


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^ I've got to disagree.

a product doesn't need to do "anything new" to warrant high praise, and TLoU2 is a masterfully made cinematic action-adventure game.

I'm not going to comment on its story, since I'm about four and a half hours into it, but it has been good so far.

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most people bashing the game don't give a fuck about Ellie being a lesbian, jesus christ

it's because the actual plot fucking sucks

boxington posted...

^ I've got to disagree.

a product doesn't need to do "anything new" to warrant high praise, and TLoU2 is a masterfully made cinematic action-adventure game.

I'm not going to comment on its story, since I'm about four and a half hours into it, but it has been good so far.

Like i said in my original post, i dont regret buying the game at all, to me it is just much weaker than the first installment. Either way its hard to complain really after the incredibly short and lazily made resident evil 3 remake i paid full price for. I just dont believe it deserves high praise or to be review bombed.


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I wonder if all the CEmen who complained about the body count not making sense in RDR2 and Tomb Raider are going to complain when they get to the ending of TLOU2...

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SwayM posted...

Lets do you a favour and well both define Gatekeeping

> Gatekeeping: when someone takes it upon themselves to decide who does or does not have access or rights to a community or

Yeah. Thats exactly what you did. You tried to dismiss anyone else who wants to discuss the situation based on the 3 Fs Family, friends and fan base you tried to gatekeep the timing of the discussion in two senses. One that its too late as quoted above. And two, that discussing it in the same month as the date of his birth was also poor timing.

As for the everyone in that topic that disagree with me. Youre referring to UnfairRepresent and Delirious_Beard. Thats it. Strong allies Im sure. Not that it actually matters it was only those two, if it was actually everyone as you claim it still wouldnt phase me because CE isnt a place where I look for allies. Its not hard for a gang of questionable users to all align with terrible opinions.

Stop trying to lie when the archives exists and it takes 30 seconds to look this shit up.

Ive been here since 2002 and I dont plan on going anywhere sorry to disappoint.

Quality wise I absolutely would compare Pokmon to Crackdown 3, hence why I made the comparison. I dont give scores to games? As far as I remember that definitely doesnt sound like me.

I will judge a Pokmon game from trailers alone because of a 20 something year history with the series. Theres enough pedigree and theres never been one mainline game Ive seen a trailer of and not completely understood how it works. When a game doesnt change they much in 20 years you get a good idea of how its gonna play.

Good. You do know how to use a dictionary. Now, lets not nitpick and take the conversation out of context. My initial post regarding the whole situation was that H3H3 was wrong for using Etikas death to one up Keemstar. You do remember that, right? Your response to my post was how Im some devil of a man when all I said was we should respect Etika and that both Keemstar/H3H3 should leave it alone in their beef. You, on the other hand, thought I was defending Keemstar for some wild reason and proceeded to attack me. For multiple posts, I repeated the same things over and over to you again and I decided to stop responding since I was wasting my time on a useless poster.

Its a bad time of the year to talk about what happened to Etika since many are still not over it. Since you lack proper comprehension, I was hinting that you should drop the subject. Theres little left to be said on the tragedy. People want to move on and heal so stop reminding them. Its not rocket science. I texted Etika myself when everything all went down out of concern for his well being so shut the fuck up. Stop using his death to paint me in a negative light. Its disgusting and if youre as old as you say you are, then you should know better.

Im not lying because I looked at the archives myself. Thats why I was so specific about your Pokemon comments, genius. You called Sword and Shield a 6/10 and a turd two days before it released worldwide. Check your own post history if you dont believe me. You could not judge the game because it wasnt out yet, my guy. You have not played it yet so you dont get to put the game on blast then proceed to call out gamers for doing the same thing. If you really cannot see whats wrong with that, I dont know what to tell you. The reason I stop responding to you all the time isnt because you win as if thats important. Its very pathetic if it is to you. I stop responding because it becomes a gargantuan waste of time and energy. You are incapable of critical thinking but parade yourself around this board as some enlightened individual who has more sense than everyone else hence why I consider you to be a joke of user. I dont care if you stay on CE or not. You clearly dislike interacting with many users here and think a majority of us are embarrassing to be around yet you stay. Sounds like you have some issues you need to work out.

If I stop responding again, are you going to claim that as another hollow victory that helps you sleep better at night? You need to grow up. You used another mans suicide to try and put me in my place as you worded it. Just stop.


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solosnake posted...

the first game is one of the most overrated games of all time, so its fitting in a weird way that the sequel gets shitted on more than it (probably) deserves

Lol, agreed.

Alt Right Asians are Review bombing TLOU2




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I don't think the reviews are for the game. I think they're for hypocritical Sony.


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The_Scarecrow posted...

You, on the other hand, thought I was defending Keemstar for some wild reason and proceeded to attack me. For multiple posts, I repeated the same things over and over to you again and I decided to stop responding since I was wasting my time on a useless poster.

Im gonna take a page from your playbook. Its too late. Your time to defend yourself was 3 weeks ago when we had this argument. But you got embarrassed and stormed off. Its right there in black and white in the archives. Im not having another useless argument about this shit in a Last of Us part 2 topic. I dont care how close you are to it, you dont own Etikas tragedy and you dont get to decide who talks about it. End of discussion.

The_Scarecrow posted...

Check your own post history if you dont believe me. You could not judge the game because it wasnt out yet, my guy.

Alright fair enough. I still stand by the fact that anyone should be able to take one look at a sword and shield trailer and see ABYSMAL animations, a truncated roaster and gameplay that hasnt changed in 20 years. Its embarrassing that this is the console debut of the series. A 6/10 or whatever is a completely arbitrary score and really doesnt fuckin matter at the end of the day. Its just a different way of explaining what I just said. The thing about S&S is that finally I wasnt the only one saying it. For years I was one of the handful of people out there with the exact same arguments I have for S&S, but now people finally saw how lazy this series really is when its on console and they couldnt even deliver a full roster.

Does that mean I support review bombing or childish bullshit? Of course not. Its the same childish antics that accomplish nothing because the internet continues to forget how small their influence actually is. Ill critique something with logic, reason and common sense but I will never align myself with bad arguments or childish nonsense. I dont care if were both on the same side, theres better ways to talk about shit.

Now we see gamer children are review bombing a game because theyre too immature to handle sjw bullshit in a video game? Theres zero discourse happening here. Its embarrassing. Games are maturing but the gamers themselves so childish. Its worse than what happened to Star Wars because its not one specific fanbase getting their panties in a twist over a handful of movies. The gamer outrage machine doesnt stop. Theres always some ridiculous, trivial bullshit that gets these children heated.


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DarthAragorn posted...

most people bashing the game don't give a fuck about Ellie being a lesbian, jesus christ

it's because the actual plot fucking sucks

Have you read most of the negative reviews? There are an insane amount about the game being "SJW propaganda" or other things along that line.

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lol people are melting down cos their game didn't get a score they want

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Rikiaz posted...

Have you read most of the negative reviews? There are an insane amount about the game being "SJW propaganda" or other things along that line.

To be fair, half the characters talk like they're on tumblr so while I wouldn't call it "propaganda" hearing someone say "bigot sandwiches" in the post apocalypse is really jarring.

That doesn't really have anything to do specifically with Ellie being a lesbian though.

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Propane4Sale posted...

So where the fuck are all these 10s coming from??? :o

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Surely must be true if a random twitter user said it

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"I would have gotten blacklisted if I said the game sucks"

*Says game sucks without worry the day after it releases*

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hockeybub89 posted...

"I would have gotten blacklisted if I said the game sucks"

*Says game sucks without worry the day after it releases*

This is kind of the funny part to me.

Like, congrats. Tom in Marketing saw your tweet, guess who's going on the blacklist for future releases now.

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