Current Events > Son of a cop kills a protestor in Albuquerque

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https://mobile.twitter.com/awinston/status/1272725492106440707?s=12

Make of this what you will, I suppose

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So nobody is holding armed militas accountable either I see.

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Looks like things took a wrong turn at Albuquerque...

Last I heard the protestor is in the hospital and is alive.

CommonStar posted...

Last I heard the protestor is in the hospital and is alive.

Eh, my mistake. Still, ain't good. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that he's part of some right wing fringe group.

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Life in prison for this trash

I'm pretty sure I was watching a live stream of this, just after is happened.
I remember the 'blue shirt' and watching the...I think Sheriff's calmly walking off the militiaman, larper.

Pretty sure we can throw away the right to bare-arms argument as a way to push back on big government tyranny at this point.
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I think that's Neville Longbottom.

Of course things escalated when the milspec cosplaying trash showed up.

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P4wn4g3 posted...

Eh, my mistake. Still, ain't good. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that he's part of some right wing fringe group.

It's a far-right extremist group. The dude that shot the protestor should get life in prison. He obviously went to the protest area with his weapon in hopes of shooting someone. Fuck him.

Just also want to point out the way the cops treated this asshole after he shot someone.

I think not just one of the protesters but a group attacked this guy and he shot one of them. Self defense.

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The Right is a blight, wastes of oxygen.

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Not a single person is surprised that a racist piece of shit is a member of a racist militia and is protected by pieces of shit police and does]something that only a piece of shit would do

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I am kind of surprised it's happening here too. But it's not like the cops having ties to extremists here is a stretch

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After this shooting, the militia fucks got to leave safely and then the police started pummeling protesters.

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https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1272739759912181760?s=21

swinging a board at the dude and then saying youre gonna kill him isnt quite the smart idea tho. Also following him as hes leaving.

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Are you sure the guy died? Still - fuck the KKK

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evil_zombie11 posted...

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1272739759912181760?s=21

swinging a board at the dude and then saying youre gonna kill him isnt quite the smart idea tho. Also following him as hes leaving.

At first I thought this was a deflection.

evil_zombie11 posted...

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1272739759912181760?s=21

swinging a board at the dude and then saying youre gonna kill him isnt quite the smart idea tho. Also following him as hes leaving.

I mean that looks like self defense to me. He was leaving and someone charged and tackled him.

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Civil war is just one major flashpoint away.
What side of history will you be on?

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CptCompostHeap posted...

I mean that looks like self defense to me. He was leaving and someone charged and tackled him.

an entire mob comes at someone like that, anyone is shooting lets be real.

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So why was his gun out at the 7 second mark?


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Zeeak4444 posted...

So why was his gun out at the 7 second mark?

I don't see a gun in his hand, I see his hat which he puts on his head. I may be missing it, post a screen grab if you can.

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Zeeak4444 posted...

So why was his gun out at the 7 second mark?

where? In the next couple seconds After the 7 second mark theres nothing in his hand.

edit: thats his hat. He goes to put it on after that mark.

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CptCompostHeap posted...

I don't see a gun in his hand, I see his hat which he puts on his head. I may be missing it, post a screen grab if you can.

its hard to see, I watched it a bunch of times too. I think youre right I think it might be his hat.

I just saw crowd freak out, pulls to him and hes raising his hand with an object at which point the dude hits him with the skateboard. Then he starts running away still carrying it, hes carrying it when hes tackled and shortly after he starts shooting.

So might not be the gun but if its not Im not sure when he pulled the gun out. Anyone else able to pinpoint it?

looks like him pulling the gun is what got people to freak out on him but with just this video theres no way to say for sure.

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Zeeak4444 posted...

its hard to see, I watched it a bunch of times too. I think youre right I think it might be his hat.

I just saw crowd freak out, pulls to him and hes raising his hand with an object at which point the dude hits him with the skateboard. Then he starts running away still carrying it, hes carrying it when hes tackled and shortly after he starts shooting.

So might not be the gun but if its not Im not sure when he pulled the gun out. Anyone else able to pinpoint it?

looks like him pulling the gun is what got people to freak out on him but with just this video theres no way to say for sure.

playing 38-39-40 second mark over again he reaches behind him to pull it. Right after he Dark Souls fat rolls when hes thrown down.

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Just watched it again. Its the gun, it has to be. He has the hat wrapped around it and when he walks away he puts on the hat and you can still a black object clutched in his right hand the whole time. Object never leaves his hand and when he goes to shoot he does so with his right hand.

The guns out from the start of the video even though he tries to hide it.

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Anyone else pretty firmly in the middle notice almost how often someone makes a topic like this... the usual types get outraged.... like 10-20 posts in someone posts a counter link?

And it goes from cop son blasting at will to cops son being chased, attacked, threatened with death? Then he shoots someone. So many times

Like that topic 'guy charges protestors with sword'. Then someone posts the counter link and the protestors are pelting the guy with rocks, he never takes his blade out of the sheath, and they gangbang him and bounce a rock of his head and smash his skull with a skateboard? Think they killed him

It happens a lot. I never believe these links until the topic develops, the same people fall far it over and over. Really makes you wonder about their thinking process

evil_zombie11 posted...

playing 38-39-40 second mark over again he reaches behind him to pull it. Right after he Dark Souls fat rolls when hes thrown down.

you might be right. Its hard to say.

i thought that too at first but I kept watching it to look for it and even when he starts to roll you see the shirt fly up and his full backs exposed with no black sticking out.

idk, again theres no way I can say for sure but it looks like it was out. Even rolling hes still clutching a black object in his right hand.

could be wrong though. Camera footage is god awful (obviously for good reason).

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In what way is this not a justified case of self defense?

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Keith_Valentine posted...

Anyone else pretty firmly in the middle notice almost how often someone makes a topic like this... the usual types get outraged.... like 10-20 posts in someone posts a counter link?

And it goes from cop son blasting at will to cops son being chased, attacked, threatened with death? Then he shoots someone. So many times

Like that topic 'guy charges protestors with sword'. Then someone posts the counter link and the protestors are pelting the guy with rocks, he never takes his blade out of the sheath, and they gangbang him and bounce a rock of his head and smash his skull with a skateboard? Think they killed him

It happens a lot. I never believe these links until the topic develops, the same people fall far it over and over. Really makes you wonder about their thinking process

eventually you are gonna have to pick a side. There isnt gonna be a middle option. This shit is a knife's edge away from escalating to civil war

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Keith_Valentine posted...

Anyone else pretty firmly in the middle notice almost how often someone makes a topic like this... the usual types get outraged.... like 10-20 posts in someone posts a counter link?

And it goes from cop son blasting at will to cops son being chased, attacked, threatened with death? Then he shoots someone. So many times

Like that topic 'guy charges protestors with sword'. Then someone posts the counter link and the protestors are pelting the guy with rocks, he never takes his blade out of the sheath, and they gangbang him and bounce a rock of his head and smash his skull with a skateboard? Think they killed him

It happens a lot. I never believe these links until the topic develops, the same people fall far it over and over. Really makes you wonder about their thinking process

I was JUST thinking about the framing of this topic being one way and then the counter link being another way. The rage crowd comes out on the first page and doesnt do any further digging, rages, and moves on. Lol

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Patchwork posted...

In what way is this not a justified case of self defense?

says the self identified cop

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Keith_Valentine posted...

ike that topic 'guy charges protestors with sword'. Then someone posts the counter link and the protestors are pelting the guy with rocks, he never takes his blade out of the sheath, and they gangbang him and bounce a rock of his head and smash his skull with a skateboard? Think they killed him

No they didn't kill him.
And he admitted that he was wrong.
And the first story was that people randomly attacked him. Other people highlighted that he went after people with a sword later.


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solosnake posted...

says the self identified cop

hes right though. I think its bullshit but even if the guy pulled out the gun and walked away as soon as the others attacked him instead of backing off and calling the police or something then legally its self defense.

im not an expert so I might be missing some obscure ruling but most likely its selfdefense.

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Zeeak4444 posted...

Just watched it again. Its the gun, it has to be. He has the hat wrapped around it and when he walks away he puts on the hat and you can still a black object clutched in his right hand the whole time. Object never leaves his hand and when he goes to shoot he does so with his right hand.

The guns out from the start of the video even though he tries to hide it.

17-18 second mark you get a clear shot of both hands and I dont see anything. Honestly he doesnt seem smart enough to pull something like that. Lol

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solosnake posted...

says the self identified cop

Yes?

They chase him and attack him. Its pretty clear cut.

Your hatred of police has poisoned your mind to see everything through that lens. I dont care who this guys daddy is or what political point the protestors are making here; they chased him and attacked him.

Rip down all the statues you want, shout from the mountaintops that you hate police, whatever.

But youre doing the exact thing you accuse police of doing; youre not holding anyone accountable but the people you oppose.

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solosnake posted...

eventually you are gonna have to pick a side. There isnt gonna be a middle option. This shit is a knife's edge away from escalating to civil war

I will cross that bridge when i come to it.

evil_zombie11 posted...

I was JUST thinking about the framing of this topic being one way and then the counter link being another way. The rage crowd comes out on the first page and doesnt do any further digging, rages, and moves on. Lol

So many times man. I have seen it so much that i realize thats actually the point. Because many people mind is made up, they confirm their bias and dont care about the truth. Thats what twitter is like.

cjsdowg posted...

No they didn't kill him.
And he admitted that he was wrong.
And the first story was that people randomly attacked him. Other people highlighted that he went after people with a sword later.

He wasnt wrong, the rioters were wrong. Ps fuck them . first topic i saw was about 'guy with sword charges protestors' same as most people here.

evil_zombie11 posted...

17-18 second mark you get a clear shot of both hands and I dont see anything. Honestly he doesnt seem smart enough to pull something smart like that. Lol

idk, I think you might be right cause I dont see anything but also even at 17 hes kinda still clutching something.

heres a screen cap in that glorious shitty rez:

hes still holding that little black object In his right. You can see it at different parts of the video but its there pretty much the whole time. That caps from 17 seconds.

my main issue is it looks like a phone or maybe a car clicker? Idk, it looks too small to be a gun but hes def holding whatever it is for most the video. He swaps his hat into his left before putting it on but whatever that thing is was under the hat too.

I can get more screen caps but idk if they will help. I dont really have strong feelings about this cause I dont have much info, mostly just doing this for fun.

disclaimer: anyone reading this should know I am just speculating and nothing more.

edit: pic is too big, let me see if I can adjust it down.

second edit: fuck it, I cant get it lower than 4mb on my phone and I dont have a photo sharing app or anything. Oh well, prob wasnt the gun anyways but the pic I was gonna share is when he shifts at 17 seconds and brings his right arm up while his left is raised a bit. Left hands open but rights clutching down.

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The gun comes out of his waistband right before he started shooting. If he had flashed it before none of those people would of gotten that close.

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Zeeak4444 posted...

idk, I think you might be right cause I dont see anything but also even at 17 hes kinda still clutching something.

heres a screen cap in that glorious shitty rez:

hes still holding that little black object In his right. You can see it at different parts of the video but its there pretty much the whole time. That caps from 17 seconds.

my main issue is it looks like a phone or maybe a car clicker? Idk, it looks too small to be a gun but hes def holding whatever it is for most the video. He swaps his hat into his left before putting it on but whatever that thing is was under the hat too.

I can get more screen caps but idk if they will help. I dont really have strong feelings about this cause I dont have much info, mostly just doing this for fun.

disclaimer: anyone reading this should know I am just speculating and nothing more.

edit: pic is too big, let me see if I can adjust it down.

second edit: fuck it, I cant get it lower than 4mb on my phone and I dont have a photo sharing app or anything. Oh well, prob wasnt the gun anyways but the pic I was gonna share is when he shifts at 17 seconds and brings his right arm up while his left is raised a bit. Left hands open but rights clutching down.

no doubt no doubt I see what youre saying. I also think its too small to be a gun, whatever it could be. Just a messy situation all around.

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KillerKhan420 posted...

The gun comes out of his waistband right before he started shooting. If he had flashed it before none of those people would of gotten that close.

so let me ask you this then, what did the crowd react to?

why did they freak out and put all focus on him? You can say he gets it from the waist band when he rolls, and thats possible, but you cant see it.

So since were speculating lets speculate what cause everyone to turn on him? Whats your guess?

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Is this it?

Proofpyros posted...

Is this it?

yes thank you sir. Hes def got something, I just cant tell what it is.

thank you again though for that. Im terrible at posting on my phone.

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That definitely looks like a gun and not a bag

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Zeeak4444 posted...

so let me ask you this then, what did the crowd react to?

why did they freak out and put all focus on him? You can say he gets it from the waist band when he rolls, and thats possible, but you cant see it.

So since were speculating lets speculate what cause everyone to turn on him? Whats your guess?

There's a 13 minute instagram video where he allegedly (it happens off camera) pushes a woman to the ground or something which causes everyone to focus on him.

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I want more details though, because as it stands with a mob running straight at you and someone spitting while yelling "IM GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU" its really hard to say anything about this because he caused the situation and the mob drastically escalated

Zeeak4444 posted...

so let me ask you this then, what did the crowd react to?

why did they freak out and put all focus on him? You can say he gets it from the waist band when he rolls, and thats possible, but you cant see it.

So since were speculating lets speculate what cause everyone to turn on him? Whats your guess?

Crowd proly reacted because he was protesting them tearing down the statue.

Holy_Cloud105 posted...

There's a 13 minute instagram video where he allegedly (it happens off camera) pushes a woman to the ground or something which causes everyone to focus on him.

oh really? That would definitely do it lol. Ill try and find it out of curiosity, thanks for the heads up.

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