Current Events > Taylor Swift: villains don't DESERVE statues

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ZannoL 06/15/20 2:03:06 PM #1:	Do you think Swift is right that confederate statues are humiliating and should be taken down? Swift is correct Swift is wrong Do you think Swift is right that confederate statues are humiliating and should be taken down? - Results (15 votes) Swift is correct 93.33% (14 votes) 14 Swift is wrong 6.67% (1 vote) 1 https://www.towleroad.com/2020/06/taylor-swift-racist-monuments/ Recording artist Taylor Swift on Friday tweeted a message to Tennessee officials and her 86.5 million Twitter followers and 134 million Instagram followers demanding that statues honoring racist figures in the states history be removed from public spaces. As a Tennessean, it makes me sick that there are monuments standing in our state that celebrate racist historical figures who did evil things, Swift wrote. Edward Carmack and Nathan Bedford Forrest were DESPICABLE figures in our state history and should be treated as such. Edward Carmacks statue was sitting in the state Capitol until it was torn down last week in the protests. The state of Tennessee has vowed to replace it. FYI, he was a white supremacist newspaper editor who published pro-lynching editorials and incited the arson of the office of Ida B. Wells (who actually deserves a heros statue for her pioneering work in journalism and civil rights). Replacing his statue is a waste of state funds and a waste of an opportunity to do the right thing. Then we get to this monstrosity, Swift continued, referring to a statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest. Nathan Bedford Forrest was a brutal slave trader and the first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan who, during the Civil War, massacred dozens of black Union soldiers in Memphis. His statue is still standing and July 13th is Nathan Bedford Forrest Day. Due to social pressure, the state is trying to overrule this, and Tennesseans might no longer have to stomach it. Fingers crossed. Added Swift: Taking down statues isnt going to fix centuries of systemic oppression, violence and hatred that black people have had to endure but it might bring us one small step closer to making ALL Tennesseans and visitors to our state feel safe not just the white ones. We need to retroactively change the status of people who perpetuated hideous patterns of racism from heroes to villains. And villains dont deserve statues. Im asking the Capitol Commission and the Tennessee Historical Commission to please consider the implications of how hurtful it would be to continue fighting for these monuments, Swift concluded. When you fight to honor racists, you show black Tennesseans and all of their allies where you stand, and you continue this cycle of hurt. You cant change history, but you can change this. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:940710475] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote> Do you think Swift is right that confederate statues are humiliating and should be taken down? Swift is correct Swift is wrong Vote View Results Do you think Swift is right that confederate statues are humiliating and should be taken down? - Results (15 votes) Swift is correct 93.33% (14 votes) 14 Swift is wrong 6.67% (1 vote) 1 Show Voting Form https://www.towleroad.com/2020/06/taylor-swift-racist-monuments/ <quote>Recording artist Taylor Swift on Friday tweeted a message to Tennessee officials and her 86.5 million Twitter followers and 134 million Instagram followers demanding that statues honoring racist figures in the states history be removed from public spaces. As a Tennessean, it makes me sick that there are monuments standing in our state that celebrate racist historical figures who did evil things, Swift wrote. Edward Carmack and Nathan Bedford Forrest were DESPICABLE figures in our state history and should be treated as such. Edward Carmacks statue was sitting in the state Capitol until it was torn down last week in the protests. The state of Tennessee has vowed to replace it. FYI, he was a white supremacist newspaper editor who published pro-lynching editorials and incited the arson of the office of Ida B. Wells (who actually deserves a heros statue for her pioneering work in journalism and civil rights). Replacing his statue is a waste of state funds and a waste of an opportunity to do the right thing. Then we get to this monstrosity, Swift continued, referring to a statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest. Nathan Bedford Forrest was a brutal slave trader and the first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan who, during the Civil War, massacred dozens of black Union soldiers in Memphis. His statue is still standing and July 13th is Nathan Bedford Forrest Day. Due to social pressure, the state is trying to overrule this, and Tennesseans might no longer have to stomach it. Fingers crossed. Added Swift: Taking down statues isnt going to fix centuries of systemic oppression, violence and hatred that black people have had to endure but it might bring us one small step closer to making ALL Tennesseans and visitors to our state feel safe not just the white ones. We need to retroactively change the status of people who perpetuated hideous patterns of racism from heroes to villains. And villains dont deserve statues. Im asking the Capitol Commission and the Tennessee Historical Commission to please consider the implications of how hurtful it would be to continue fighting for these monuments, Swift concluded. When you fight to honor racists, you show black Tennesseans and all of their allies where you stand, and you continue this cycle of hurt. You cant change history, but you can change this.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 06/15/20 2:04:14 PM #2:	We used to make love Now we got bad blood Heh <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:940710519] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>We used to make love Now we got bad blood Heh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 06/15/20 2:04:52 PM #3:	Confederate statues are participation trophies --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/M8h2ATe https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:940710557] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>Confederate statues are participation trophies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 06/15/20 2:05:18 PM #4:	I think statues of people is a weird ass concept in the first place. --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:940710577] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>I think statues of people is a weird ass concept in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/15/20 2:06:08 PM #5:	Meanwhile, in Ukraine... https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/darth-vader-statue <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940710614] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile, in Ukraine... https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/darth-vader-statue </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 06/15/20 2:06:44 PM #6:	DrizztLink posted... Confederate statues are participation trophies "2nd place: American Civil War, awarded to the Confederate States of America (1861-65)." <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:940710646] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite> <quote>Confederate statues are participation trophies</quote>"2nd place: American Civil War, awarded to the Confederate States of America (1861-65)." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 06/15/20 2:07:01 PM #7:	Can we erect a staute of tay tay? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:940710662] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>Can we erect a staute of tay tay? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bestoffuture 06/15/20 2:07:04 PM #8:	I want to eat her ass even more. --- Proud leader of the PeyPals "I don't take any responsibility at all."- President Donald J. Trump <cite>Bestoffuture posted [p:940710664] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>I want to eat her ass even more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 06/15/20 3:38:02 PM #10:	Their boots deserve statues. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:940714831] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>Their boots deserve statues. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 06/15/20 3:40:21 PM #11:	darkphoenix181 posted... Can we erect a staute of tay tay? <cite>ZannoL posted [p:940714943] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>darkphoenix181 posted... </cite> <quote>Can we erect a staute of tay tay?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 06/15/20 3:45:07 PM #12:	I got idea for her next hit song: Villians don't deserve statues ues ues So let us tear them down and buy some shoes Shoes shoes Ooohhh <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:940715146] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>I got idea for her next hit song: Villians don't deserve statues ues ues So let us tear them down and buy some shoes Shoes shoes Ooohhh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bluezero 06/15/20 3:46:20 PM #13:	She wasn't outraged until someone told her to be outraged. --- https://imgur.com/fEXUeBi <cite>bluezero posted [p:940715194] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>She wasn't outraged until someone told her to be outraged. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 06/15/20 3:47:52 PM #14:	bluezero posted... She wasn't outraged until someone told her to be outraged. How do you know this? --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:940715274] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>bluezero posted... </cite> <quote>She wasn't outraged until someone told her to be outraged.</quote>How do you know this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 06/15/20 3:49:00 PM #15:	Why are celebrities allowed to wear anything? Shes wearing a fucking disco ball in the OP. She should immediately get roasted for that. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:940715321] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>Why are celebrities allowed to wear anything? Shes wearing a fucking disco ball in the OP. She should immediately get roasted for that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 06/15/20 3:49:04 PM #16:	bluezero posted... She wasn't outraged until someone told her to be outraged. Actually in her netflix doc, she wanted to do stuff like this yeara ago but her producers and parents said no, don't be controversial <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:940715326] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>bluezero posted... </cite> <quote>She wasn't outraged until someone told her to be outraged.</quote> Actually in her netflix doc, she wanted to do stuff like this yeara ago but her producers and parents said no, don't be controversial </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 06/15/20 3:50:02 PM #17:	darkphoenix181 posted... Actually in her netflix doc, she wanted to do stuff like this yeara ago but her producers and parents said no, don't be controversial <cite>ZannoL posted [p:940715374] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>darkphoenix181 posted... </cite> <quote>Actually in her netflix doc, she wanted to do stuff like this yeara ago but her producers and parents said no, don't be controversial</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 06/15/20 3:53:10 PM #18:	I wonder if she knew white nationalists which here acting like she was one of them. I wonder if that made her want to speak up. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:940715523] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if she knew white nationalists which here acting like she was one of them. I wonder if that made her want to speak up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/15/20 3:53:48 PM #19:	Say that to my Darth Vader statue --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:940715551] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>Say that to my Darth Vader statue </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Austin_Era_II 06/15/20 3:56:12 PM #20:	She doesn't have the guts to be controversial because people tell her to be careful cause of her image. What a joke. Shit hits the fan and now she speaks up cause now a lot of people got the green flag cause a bunch of corporations said they can. Real celebs say fuck it and speak their mind. --- Currently gaming: Metal Gear Solid V MCMLXXXV <cite>Austin_Era_II posted [p:940715674] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>She doesn't have the guts to be controversial because people tell her to be careful cause of her image. What a joke. Shit hits the fan and now she speaks up cause now a lot of people got the green flag cause a bunch of corporations said they can. Real celebs say fuck it and speak their mind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 06/15/20 3:57:42 PM #21:	Austin_Era_II posted... She doesn't have the guts to be controversial because people tell her to be careful cause of her image. What a joke. Shit hits the fan and now she speaks up cause now a lot of people got the green flag cause a bunch of corporations said they can. Real celebs say fuck it and speak their mind. She been speaking up since Trump got in office and some person she didn't like ran for office in Tn. <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:940715748] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>Austin_Era_II posted... </cite> <quote>She doesn't have the guts to be controversial because people tell her to be careful cause of her image. What a joke. Shit hits the fan and now she speaks up cause now a lot of people got the green flag cause a bunch of corporations said they can. Real celebs say fuck it and speak their mind.</quote> She been speaking up since Trump got in office and some person she didn't like ran for office in Tn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 06/15/20 6:52:59 PM #22:	darkphoenix181 posted... She been speaking up since Trump got in office and some person she didn't like ran for office in Tn. This. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:940724358] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>darkphoenix181 posted... </cite> <quote>She been speaking up since Trump got in office and some person she didn't like ran for office in Tn.</quote>This. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/15/20 6:55:15 PM #23:	Austin_Era_II posted... She doesn't have the guts to be controversial because people tell her to be careful cause of her image. What a joke. Shit hits the fan and now she speaks up cause now a lot of people got the green flag cause a bunch of corporations said they can. Real celebs say fuck it and speak their mind. Yeah a lot of stars with country roots are scared of speaking out because of what happened to the Dixie Chicks. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:940724456] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>Austin_Era_II posted... </cite> <quote>She doesn't have the guts to be controversial because people tell her to be careful cause of her image. What a joke. Shit hits the fan and now she speaks up cause now a lot of people got the green flag cause a bunch of corporations said they can. Real celebs say fuck it and speak their mind.</quote> Yeah a lot of stars with country roots are scared of speaking out because of what happened to the Dixie Chicks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Odoylerules 06/15/20 6:56:11 PM #24:	DrizztLink posted... Confederate statues are participation trophies "derrs muh berkkin curlture, meeeng!" <cite>Odoylerules posted [p:940724493] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite> <quote>Confederate statues are participation trophies</quote>"derrs muh berkkin curlture, meeeng!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 06/15/20 6:57:01 PM #25:	darkphoenix181 posted... Actually in her netflix doc, she wanted to do stuff like this yeara ago but her producers and parents said no, don't be controversial Did she, or did she say as much to handwave all the years she wasn't vocal? I haven't seen that doc, so I have no idea. <cite>Esrac posted [p:940724540] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>darkphoenix181 posted... </cite> <quote>Actually in her netflix doc, she wanted to do stuff like this yeara ago but her producers and parents said no, don't be controversial</quote> Did she, or did she say as much to handwave all the years she wasn't vocal? I haven't seen that doc, so I have no idea. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/15/20 7:01:29 PM #26:	Esrac posted... Did she, or did she say as much to handwave all the years she wasn't vocal? I haven't seen that doc, so I have no idea. She looked nervous as fuck posting a simple social media statement so it seemed pretty legit. Dixie Chicks and just being a pop star singer that's constantly judged with people looking any reason to tear her down is plenty of a reason to be quiet over politics. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:940724765] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>Did she, or did she say as much to handwave all the years she wasn't vocal? I haven't seen that doc, so I have no idea.</quote> She looked nervous as fuck posting a simple social media statement so it seemed pretty legit. Dixie Chicks and just being a pop star singer that's constantly judged with people looking any reason to tear her down is plenty of a reason to be quiet over politics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 06/15/20 7:02:00 PM #27:	they were traitors to america that were pro slavery <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:940724785] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>they were traitors to america that were pro slavery</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 06/15/20 9:47:53 PM #28:	Bump... <cite>ZannoL posted [p:940732594] in Taylor Swi... [t:78773949]...</cite> <quote>Bump... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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