Current Events > "BLM is a leftist lie"- Black youtubers

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Dathrowed1 posted...

It is almost like they didnt need race or something

They do. Because racism is playing a big part in many deaths.

People will whine that "they only care about black people" but it was the BLM supporters that got pissed off when police knocked over an old white man and made him bleed from the head.

We know who actually cares about all lives.

Zikten posted...

I rarely hear about white people shot by cops on the news. Or online or even talked about on here

It does happen. But it doesn't seem to be an almost daily thing like cops shooting black people

You can't trust news media.

They report more on black men being shot by cops for the same reason the report more on white girls going missing or killed.

Esrac posted...

You can't trust news media.

They report more on black men being shot by cops for the same reason the report more on white girls going missing or killed.

i didn't even notice that about white girls getting kidnapped/killed

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0Renegade posted...

i didn't even notice that about white girls getting kidnapped/killed

yeah the number of black and Latino girls/women that go missing and are never even reported on is astonishing

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did anyone mention "internalized racism" yet?

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the media is what needs dismantling

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Zikten posted...

I am aware white guys have been murdered but it happens way less often and the killing isn't based on their skin color.

The number of white guys killed by police in 2019 was 19, compared to 9 black guys

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Kobe Bryant posted...

The number of white guys killed by police in 2019 was 19, compared to 9 black guys

So 10 more white people, but how many fewer black people are there just in general? each black person makes up a larger percentage of there ethnicity than white people do theirs.

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Collat posted...

They do. Because racism is playing a big part in many deaths.

People will whine that "they only care about black people" but it was the BLM supporters that got pissed off when police knocked over an old white man and made him bleed from the head.

We know who actually cares about all lives.

How does the police reform platform change if you take race out of it? It doesnt except make more people responsive to your message

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SolidShadow3 posted...

So 10 more white people, but how many fewer black people are there just in general? each black person makes up a larger percentage of there ethnicity than white people do theirs.

There is less than a 1% chance someone will be killed by police in the US.

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Monolith1676 posted...

There is less than a 1% chance someone will be killed by police in the US.

And the fact its not closer to 0% is still an issue.

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SolidShadow3 posted...

And the fact its not closer to 0% is still an issue.

If you estimate at least 3,600,000 recorded police contacts a year and at least 1,000 people die during them that is 0.03%. If you estimate contacts that aren't recorded the percentage is even smaller.

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Kobe Bryant posted...

The number of white guys killed by police in 2019 was 19, compared to 9 black guys

Now this is the part where you do some basic math and figure out why that's an issue for black people when the white population in the country is more than triple the black population.

Monolith1676 posted...

If you estimate at least 3,600,000 recorded police contacts a year and at least 1,000 people die during them that is 0.03%. If you estimate contacts that aren't recorded the percentage is even smaller.

And if you estimate the total population with the amount of deaths by police each year (about 1,000), then it's way less than 0.01% to be killed by a cop

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Dathrowed1 posted...

How does the police reform platform change if you take race out of it? It doesnt except make more people responsive to your message

Police reform benefits everyone, but the fact you people want to remove racism from the discussion says a lot about you.

Collat posted...

Police reform benefits everyone, but the fact you people want to remove racism from the discussion says a lot about you.

Why? It isnt needed

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Dathrowed1 posted...

Why? It isnt needed

It is.

You just want to be told that America doesn't have racist problems so you can keep ignoring it.

SolidShadow3 posted...

To break it down to Apple and oranges; If you have:

70 White people
30 black people

Now, If I kill 15 black people, and 20 white people why is your argument "more whites died" and not understanding that HALF THE BACK PEOPLE DIED.

you wanna see the larger number? The 50% is larger than your "20 dead whites".

What's the actual number of police contacts by race though. Because I know damn well police like to pull over black people.


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BLM has also brought up the killing of white people by cops.

You know who doesn't care? These ALM folk.
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Basically. Everytime I hear "Why didnt you care when this man died? Huh?" All I can think is...

"We did, but but why didnt you?"

Idk the actually numbers, that's just the argument at hand broken down for anyone to understand. The idea doesnt stop at PoC being attack, fact is BLM is about equality. People are so worried about the name, they dont wanna look past it. Yea, All Lives Matter, now why arent you up in arms about the 75 y/o man that got pushed over like we are?

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LightningAce11 posted...

BLM has also brought up the killing of white people by cops.

You know who doesn't care? These ALM folk.

Exactly, they sounded off for Daniel Shaver to the concern of nobody

Tropicalwood posted...

Because I know damn well police like to pull over black people.

that's racist

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I'm gonna let you in on a secret that I wasn't supposed to let out of the leftist meetings, TC

Black people dont all participate in group think, and are also susceptible to conservative propaganda
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badwinkles posted...

Fuck off. Police are notorious for harassing black men for bullshit reasons. It's not some sort of vast alt-right conspiracy, it's a known issue with law enforcement.

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Collat posted...

It is.

You just want to be told that America doesn't have racist problems so you can keep ignoring it.

Or maybe I realize you can draw more people with police reform (as it can and has happened to anyone) instead of just focusing on race

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SolidShadow3 posted...

To break it down to Apple and oranges; If you have:

70 White people
30 black people

Now, If I kill 15 black people, and 20 white people why is your argument "more whites died" and not understanding that HALF THE BACK PEOPLE DIED.

you wanna see the larger number? The 50% is larger than your "20 dead whites".

Are we really comparing lives lost by percentages of the population now? Are people just statistics to you? Thats pretty disgusting. In your scenario 35 people were killed, their race doesn't matter.

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Tropicalwood posted...

What's the actual number of police contacts by race though. Because I know damn well police like to pull over black people.

Sad that they do.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

BLM isn't protesting for police reforms that benefit only black people.

Topic could of ended here, but this is CE. If certain white people aren't held up in the front, they want nothing to do with the movement.

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One_Day_Remains posted...

Now this is the part where you do some basic math and figure out why that's an issue for black people when the white population in the country is more than triple the black population.

Black people only account for 12% of the population and yet account for HALF of murders in the US. Statistically, police encounter a lot less white people and yet more have died, where is thr outrage from the news?

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You failed to answer the question. Instead you just spouted off cringe Stormfront rhetoric

I gotta say, it's interesting for you to have an account named after a black person when you hate black people so much. Is it just like a closet fetish similar to how many homophobes have gay tendencies?

Lol it's not "stormfront" rhetoric, it's literally stats from the US census bureau. I get it, you're young and emotional from watching too much sensationalized news and reading click bait articles. I remember being young, naive and impressionable

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SolidShadow3 posted...

To break it down to Apple and oranges; If you have:

70 White people
30 black people

Now, If I kill 15 black people, and 20 white people why is your argument "more whites died" and not understanding that HALF THE BACK PEOPLE DIED.

you wanna see the larger number? The 50% is larger than your "20 dead whites".

Yep



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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The thing is when a white person is killed by an officer, people don't typically try to justify it by pulling out petty crimes the person may have committed 3 years ago or trying to find traces of marijuana in their corpse or whatever insane bullshit they can find to paint that person as a "thug".

White criminals killed by cops aren't normally defended in favor of the former, thus there isn't the need to come up with justifications.

josiskrazy posted...

Yep

That is pretty skewed because you can't go off the population because there are many people of all races that never have contact with law enforcement. It has to be by actual interactions with law enforcement.

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looks like whoever made that graph put more work into the visual design than anything else

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Even if a white 10 year old boy gets accidentally shot by a cop, you won't hear about it in the media except local media which I find very funny. By the way, cop was sued, but lawsuit was dismissed due to qualified immunity. And yeah, you still didn't read about that in the news unless you actively seek it out.

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Monolith1676 posted...

That is pretty skewed because you can't go off the population because there are many people of all races that never have contact with law enforcement. It has to be by actual interactions with law enforcement.

Exactly. And statistically speaking, some races simply commit more crimes and therefore have waay more interactions with the police.

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Kobe Bryant posted...

Exactly. And statistically speaking, some races simply commit more crimes and therefore have waay more interactions with the police.

Sssshhhh you cant say things like this

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Kobe Bryant posted...

Lol it's not "stormfront" rhetoric, it's literally stats from the US census bureau. I get it, you're young and emotional from watching too much sensationalized news and reading click bait articles. I remember being young, naive and impressionable

Person: "black people are killed more often by police per capita"

You: "b-b-b-but black people commit more crimes"

That is Stormfront rhetoric. You don't address the actual point being made, you deflect to weird, random statistics like you have a certain agenda to push about black people. You're either just really dumb or you're a child using a hand-me-down account that his big brother made. Either way you're not equipped to discuss this.

One_Day_Remains posted...

Person: "black people are killed more often by police per capita"

You: "b-b-b-but black people commit more crimes"

That is Stormfront rhetoric. You don't address the actual point being made, you deflect to weird, random statistics like you have a certain agenda to push about black people. You're either just really dumb or you're a child using a hand-me-down account that his big brother made. Either way you're not equipped to discuss this.

I think the actual point you're referencing (black people being disproportionately killed by officers) and his point (black people have more interactions with law enforcement, thus have a higher chance of bad outcomes) could be valid at the same time.

It's an extremely complex issue. Black people do account for 50% of all homicides, but it is largely black on black homicides (similar to white on white homicides). Black homicides occur disproportionately, but they are mostly committed by someone who is also black.

Police patrol more in areas where higher crime rates occur and particularly where violence and shootings occur. These also happen to be lower income areas, which happen to have a higher concentrated population of people of color.

I think it mostly boils down to poverty and people of color disproportionately affected by poverty, not necessarily that police themselves are inherently racist. There was even a study that finds white officers were not more likely to shoot minority suspects. NPR reported on it, it it's easily Google-able (direct link is too long for GFAQs)

So the bigger question would be what can or should be done with police having more presence in more concentrated person of color areas. Is it necessary? Would the absence of police cause certain areas to become more dangerous? Should more be done to lift people out of poverty to prevent areas of poverty?

It's a lot to unpack.

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One_Day_Remains posted...

Person: "black people are killed more often by police per capita"

You: "b-b-b-but black people commit more crimes"

That is Stormfront rhetoric. You don't address the actual point being made, you deflect to weird, random statistics like you have a certain agenda to push about black people. You're either just really dumb or you're a child using a hand-me-down account that his big brother made. Either way you're not equipped to discuss this.

I'm addressing the point head on and objectively countering your (emotional and biased) arguments with actual facts and stats. Hopefully when you're not fuming with emotion you can see things clearer, kid


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Zikten posted...

I am aware white guys have been murdered but it happens way less often and the killing isn't based on their skin color.

except not. You know, based on statistics.

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Houston posted...

I think it mostly boils down to poverty and people of color disproportionately affected by poverty

I would also add family structure as well

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Blue_Popo posted...

What happened to these guys?

They used to be a semi entertaining workout channel, and now years later I check and they are some super conservative channel

Probably got recruited by the same people who got Candace Owens.

"Quick, we need more black people to spout our racist opinions, start writing checks damn it!"

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Im white I dont get a say in this stuff

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Kobe Bryant posted...

I'm addressing the point head on and objectively countering your (emotional and biased) arguments with actual facts and stats. Hopefully when you're not fuming with emotion you can see things clearer, kid

The stats have nothing to do with the actual point being discussed. For someone who cries so much about "emotional arguments", you're sure having difficulty picking up on that. You should make your projection less easy to identify

Tired-Insomniac posted...

Probably got recruited by the same people who got Candace Owens.

"Quick, we need more black people to spout our racist opinions, start writing checks damn it!"

They're Marines and have more testosterone than all of CE combined so of course they're going to naturally lean conservative.

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One_Day_Remains posted...

The stats have nothing to do with the actual point being discussed. For someone who cries so much about "emotional arguments", you're sure having difficulty picking up on that. You should make your projection less easy to identify

I think his stats and circumstances are worth mentioning. See my analysis at the top of the page

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Kolibri X posted...

They're Marines and have more testosterone than all of CE combined so of course they're going to naturally lean conservative.

This is extremely cringeworthy. Have some self-respect for once and stop slurping so hard.

Tired-Insomniac posted...

Probably got recruited by the same people who got Candace Owens.

"Quick, we need more black people to spout our racist opinions, start writing checks damn it!"

"Black people don't think the way I've determined they should think, there's something fishy going on here. RACISM!"

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