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AlmightyCheeks
06/14/20 7:08:32 PM
#51:


Zikten posted...
the breathalyzer only shows he was drunk. he wasn't driving. sitting a drivethough is not driving. was he being an asshole and blocking the line? yes? but he wasn't driving.
How did he get in the drive thru? He didnt magically appear there then get in line, drink, get drunk and fall asleep

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Siaperaz
06/14/20 7:09:04 PM
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ChocoboMogALT posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule

Fleeing the police legally does not give them carte blanche to shoot you.
He didn't have a gun or a knife, he shouldn't have been shot in the back. Yes, police should be expected to put themselves into danger by chasing a suspect.
Did you suddenly forget that he shot a taser to the cops?


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ThePrinceFish
06/14/20 7:09:21 PM
#53:


Zikten posted...
the breathalyzer only shows he was drunk. he wasn't driving. sitting a drivethough is not driving. was he being an asshole and blocking the line? yes? but he wasn't driving.
Thank God he didn't kill anyone while he drunkenly drove his car from wherever he was getting wasted at to that Wendy's. What the fuck is wrong with you right now? How can your hatred for the police be so ridiculous that you're going to ignore the drunk man sitting behind the wheel of a car in a roadway and pretend he wasn't driving while intoxicated solely because he was passed out?

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YugiNoob
06/14/20 7:09:22 PM
#54:


AlmightyCheeks posted...
How did he get in the drive thru?
Hes Superman, and he flew his car in

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Zikten
06/14/20 7:10:45 PM
#55:


AlmightyCheeks posted...
How did he get in the drive thru? He didnt magically appear there then get in line, drink, get drunk and fall asleep

he stopped though. he was driving maybe. but he had stopped by the time cops came. he was parked in the drivethough.
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I is smart
06/14/20 7:11:38 PM
#56:


Zikten posted...
the breathalyzer only shows he was drunk. he wasn't driving. sitting a drivethough is not driving. was he being an asshole and blocking the line? yes? but he wasn't driving.


So what, you seriously believe he got so drunk he passed out all while sitting in line not moving? Get the fuck out of here.
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Mark_DeRosa
06/14/20 7:12:42 PM
#57:


Zikten posted...
the breathalyzer only shows he was drunk. he wasn't driving. sitting a drivethough is not driving. was he being an asshole and blocking the line? yes? but he wasn't driving.

did the car fly to the drive thru while he was sleeping?

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LordRazziel
06/14/20 7:12:46 PM
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WizardPowers posted...
Not possible. He was DUI. Mandatory to arrest at that point.

Then the guy attacked them and stole thr taser
So for a DUI, it's surrender or die?

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Zikten
06/14/20 7:13:26 PM
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I admit he drove in the past. but he had stopped when he got arrested. cops shouldn't arrest people for doing the right thing and pulling over to sleep.
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Heavy_D_Forever
06/14/20 7:14:25 PM
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Zikten posted...
I admit he drove in the past. but he had stopped when he got arrested. cops shouldn't arrest people for doing the right thing and pulling over to sleep.
Dude I got arrested for sitting in a car in a parking lot drunk. The car wasn't even turned on but I had the keys in my pocket. It's called "Physical Control"

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Mark_DeRosa
06/14/20 7:14:39 PM
#61:


Zikten posted...
I admit he drove in the past. but he had stopped when he got arrested. cops shouldn't arrest people for doing the right thing and pulling over to sleep.
He wasnt pulled over..... he fell asleep at the wheel in a drive thhru lane dude wtf

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DarthAragorn
06/14/20 7:15:36 PM
#62:


Holy fuck zikten is clueless
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LeperMessiahXX
06/14/20 7:18:08 PM
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Wasn't he shot in the back and was unarmed by that point? I could understand shooting him if he had a tazer and was fighting the cop, a shooting would be justified since the cop would be at his mercy if he got tazed, but by the point he was shot he was running away.

If I have any facts wrong tell me, I haven't read too much about this case. If I'm getting it right though, the threat by that point was gone. He was unarmed and trying to escape, no life needed to be taken to keep cop or the public safe.
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yemmy
06/14/20 7:19:13 PM
#64:


Zikten posted...
it's a bullshit DUI then. he wasn't driving. and if your friend wasn't either, he shouldn't have gotten DUI either.

DUI means drunk driving. not sitting in a car asleep and drunk. every time cops arrest people sitting in a turned off car and drunk, that's abuse and corruption and wrongful arrest

You don't know how DUI laws work apparently.

Also this guy passed out in a drive thru line. You apparently also don't know anything about the topic at hand or are ignoring it because it is easier to push you narrative.

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AlmightyCheeks
06/14/20 7:19:28 PM
#65:


LeperMessiahXX posted...
Wasn't he shot in the back and was unarmed by that point? I could understand shooting him if he had a tazer and was fighting the cop, a shooting would be justified since the cop would be at his mercy if he got tazed, but by the point he was shot he was running away.

If I have any facts wrong tell me, I haven't read too much about this case. If I'm getting it right though, the threat by that point was gone. He was unarmed and trying to escape, no life needed to be taken to keep cop or the public safe.
he was shot while pointing the taser at the cops

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Mark_DeRosa
06/14/20 7:20:01 PM
#66:


LeperMessiahXX posted...
Wasn't he shot in the back and was unarmed by that point? I could understand shooting him if he had a tazer and was fighting the cop, a shooting would be justified since the cop would be at his mercy if he got tazed, but by the point he was shot he was running away.

If I have any facts wrong tell me, I haven't read too much about this case. If I'm getting it right though, the threat by that point was gone. He was unarmed and trying to escape, no life needed to be taken to keep cop or the public safe.

he was shot at the exact moment he turned around with the taser and shot the cop with it


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YugiNoob
06/14/20 7:20:15 PM
#67:


LeperMessiahXX posted...
Wasn't he shot in the back and was unarmed by that point? I could understand shooting him if he had a tazer and was fighting the cop, a shooting would be justified since the cop would be at his mercy if he got tazed, but by the point he was shot he was running away.

If I have any facts wrong tell me, I haven't read too much about this case. If I'm getting it right though, the threat by that point was gone. He was unarmed and trying to escape, no life needed to be taken to keep cop or the public safe.
No, he still had a taser

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Mark_DeRosa
06/14/20 7:20:40 PM
#68:


yemmy posted...
You don't know how DUI laws work apparently.

Also this guy passed out in a drive thru line. You apparently also don't know anything about the topic at hand or are ignoring it because it is easier to push you narrative.


hes already made his agenda clear when he said he was shot for sleeping at Wendys lmfao

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ChocoboMogALT
06/14/20 7:21:09 PM
#69:


Siaperaz posted...
Did you suddenly forget that he shot a taser to the cops?
If tasers are nonlethal force, they are nonlethal force.
Morally, police should not escalate when unnecessary. Legally, they should have to be in immediate danger. A suspect running away with a taser is not an immediate threat.

In a 5-year TASER safety study by the US Department of Justice an expert panel of medical professionals concludes that the use of conducted energy devices by police officers on healthy adults does not present a high risk of death or serious injury
https://www.axon.com/how-safe-are-taser-weapons

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YugiNoob
06/14/20 7:21:42 PM
#70:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
hes already made his agenda clear when he said he was shot for sleeping at Wendys lmfao
Also when he said that the guy was dragged out of his car and police started punching him lol

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Smashingpmkns
06/14/20 7:23:46 PM
#71:


Didn't he already fire the taser? He wouldn't have been able to shoot it again. He shouldn't have been shot.
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Dathrowed1
06/14/20 7:25:26 PM
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OK after this topic it's understood to not take Zikten seriously right? Just put him on ignore and laugh or troll him right?

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YugiNoob
06/14/20 7:25:49 PM
#74:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Didn't he already fire the taser? He wouldn't have been able to shoot it again. He shouldn't have been shot.
Some tasers are multi shot, especially police ones. Darkprince or whoever our cop here is said his has 4 shots, and a little Googling says most police tasers have 2.

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Zikten
06/14/20 7:26:51 PM
#75:


Dathrowed1 posted...
OK after this topic it's understood to not take Zikten seriously right? Just put him on ignore and laugh or troll him right?

I don't even know who you are but you can be modded for admitting to trolling
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Dathrowed1
06/14/20 7:27:23 PM
#76:


Zikten posted...
I don't even know who you are but you can be modded for admitting to trolling
I have yet to troll anyone

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Mark_DeRosa
06/14/20 7:30:19 PM
#77:


Just so we know too, you can still drive stun with the taser. If the prongs are still attached after you shot, you can still hold the trigger and activate the taser

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21WIVES_CHILL
06/14/20 8:47:25 PM
#78:


Imagine if he actually tasered the cop and actually got away. He'd be praised as a saint.
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eston
06/14/20 8:51:08 PM
#79:


21WIVES_CHILL posted...
Imagine if he actually tasered the cop and actually got away. He'd be praised as a saint.
Nah they would have just had to arrest him at his home instead of murdering him

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Middle hope
06/14/20 10:11:59 PM
#80:


21WIVES_CHILL posted...
Imagine if he actually tasered the cop and actually got away. He'd be praised as a saint.
He already is. I've seen murals of him with a halo and wings and people proclaiming he was such a good dude.

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The Trent
06/14/20 10:16:18 PM
#82:


eston posted...
Nah they would have just had to arrest him at his home instead of murdering him

He'd have been cool about getting arrested at home because?

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Cheetaluv
06/14/20 10:16:44 PM
#83:


Yes, I guess they want cops to not defend themselves and end up getting killed.

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BettyWhite
06/14/20 10:26:25 PM
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Straight up people trying to rationalize that use of a taser should be met with lethal force. I guess when the police ranks are filled with unskilled pussies, you gotta kill to make an arrest on a non compliant criminal.


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ThisGuyAreSick
06/14/20 10:27:35 PM
#86:


Zikten posted...
yep. cops shouldn't kill unless their life is in danger. or someone elses life is in danger. you should'nt kill someone just cause they punched you or pushed you or scratched you.


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The Trent
06/14/20 10:27:44 PM
#87:


BettyWhite posted...
Straight up people trying to rationalize that use of a taser should be met with lethal force. I guess when the police ranks are filled with unskilled pussies, you gotta kill to make an arrest on a non compliant criminal.

Non compliant criminal eh
The police should have chased him down and placed him in a serious of dangerous chokeholds instead probably

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BettyWhite
06/14/20 10:35:31 PM
#88:


The Trent posted...
Non compliant criminal eh
The police should have chased him down and placed him in a serious of dangerous chokeholds instead probably

I don't even know what you're getting at. Probably just digging shit out of your ass and smearing it around like TC.

To humor your crayon eating response, an actual well trained officer can restrain and arrest someone without killing them. Even George Floyd would have been fine if the small cock would have cuffed him and rolled him onto his ass like almost every arrest I've seen.

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Esrac
06/14/20 10:56:12 PM
#89:


Man, Zikten talking like a crazy person in this topic.

Ok. He wasn't drunk driving the very second they went to arrest him. He just drove drunk to a fast food drive through and passed out at the wheel. So, even if you don't want to admit he was caught in the act of a crime, we know he did commit a crime minutes prior.

So, arresting him would be totally fair. Unless you want to suggest someone must be caught in the act of a crime to be arrested for a crime, which would have unfortunate implications for other crimes.
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Guide
06/14/20 10:58:03 PM
#90:


What I'm seeing from tc is that if a cop tazes an innocent person, you should shoot the cop.

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Bloodmoon77
06/14/20 10:59:00 PM
#91:


Guy was a criminal the second he started resisting arrest. What did he expect when he shot them with a taser?

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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 11:06:12 PM
#92:


Zikten posted...
yep. cops shouldn't kill unless their life is in danger. or someone elses life is in danger. you should'nt kill someone just cause they punched you or pushed you or scratched you.

Getting tased essentially renders a person unable to defend themselves. An officer carries a sidearm - that could be obtained while they are being tased. A person tasing an officer most likely is doing it because they are afraid - and people afraid can be very unpredictable and dangerous.

Another thing to note is that officers shoot for center of mass. They are not sharpshooters - hitting a limb is pretty difficult while not being attacked in the first place.

Now I agree - if an officer was slapped or pushed, they should not shoot back.

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troll_swag
06/14/20 11:13:51 PM
#93:


MaverickXeo posted...
Getting tased essentially renders a person unable to defend themselves. An officer carries a sidearm - that could be obtained while they are being tased. A person tasing an officer most likely is doing it because they are afraid - and people afraid can be very unpredictable and dangerous.

Another thing to note is that officers shoot for center of mass. They are not sharpshooters - hitting a limb is pretty difficult while not being attacked in the first place.

Now I agree - if an officer was slapped or pushed, they should not shoot back.
Another thing to note is that the dude was RUNNING AWAY

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hockeybub89
06/14/20 11:15:12 PM
#94:


Sometimes bad people trying to hurt someone get shot? Welp guess we can ignore innocent people getting shot then!

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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 11:16:11 PM
#95:


troll_swag posted...
Another thing to note is that the dude was RUNNING AWAY

Was he? Then yes, the officer should not have fired.

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Billy__Beane
06/14/20 11:38:42 PM
#96:


Doesn't matter if he's actively running that second...

Facts:
He was drunk
He had a taser which could incapacitate a person and then who knows what he could do... Possibly kill him.
He used said weapon on a cop
He couldn't turned around and attacked the cop again or hurt a civilian, at that point he's a threat to human lives still.
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troll_swag
06/14/20 11:42:29 PM
#97:


Billy__Beane posted...
Doesn't matter if he's actively running that second...

Facts:
He was drunk
He had a taser which could incapacitate a person and then who knows what he could do... Possibly kill him.
He used said weapon on a cop
He couldn't turned around and attacked the cop again or hurt a civilian, at that point he's a threat to human lives still.
Dont create what ifs to try and justify unnecessary lethal force. Unless youre ready to embrace the opposite.

What if the cops had did their job properly and pursued the suspect instead being lazy and shot him in the back?

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Omasitor Hain
06/14/20 11:55:52 PM
#98:


Lol @ responding to blatant trolls. Hi.
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