Board 8 > Independent Survivor Mafia Topic 2 - Electric Boogaloo

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TheSultanOfSlam
06/14/20 4:24:56 PM
#51:


Also claiming cop is a suicide claim if youre not a cop soo

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Sheep007
06/14/20 4:30:31 PM
#52:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Also claiming cop is a suicide claim if youre not a cop soo
We've known Aecioo knew Bolt was scum as soon as Bolt claimed it. That all was never really in doubt.

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Sheep007
06/14/20 4:32:21 PM
#53:


turbopuns3 posted...
After reviewing my own role PM and the rules in post #1, I wonder if Aecioo is just cop without a separate win con who made up a lie to stay alive longer
I really doubt that would happen. It seems ridiculously unfair to have no extra wincon, even if it is unlikely, for a role that is probably the most likely of all to get killed

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turbopuns3
06/14/20 4:32:54 PM
#54:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Also claiming cop is a suicide claim if youre not a cop soo

Eh, not exactly

Again, this is an atypical game
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turbopuns3
06/14/20 4:33:53 PM
#56:


Sheep007 posted...
I really doubt that would happen. It seems ridiculously unfair to have no extra wincon, even if it is unlikely, for a role that is probably the most likely of all to get killed

Not if you don't claim it! lol

idk, just spitballing
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turbopuns3
06/14/20 4:34:59 PM
#57:


I could see cop without any protection making a lot of sense in this game

I mean I could really, really see 0 protection making a lot of sense in this game
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htaeD
06/14/20 4:36:32 PM
#59:


Okay Lea, but..
Why would a zombiemaker risk this?
Why would Aecioo risk angering his (predumedly) only ally so far, risk getting himself killed before he can even make another zombie?
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TheSultanOfSlam
06/14/20 4:37:08 PM
#60:


Again UNDERNEATH IT ALL IT IS STILL A MAFIA GAME. Yes its a different style of game but their is still scum and town.. maybe i dont like this game beacuse people arent going to treat it as such. Everyone is playing it selfishly and not worried about the game with in the independent survivor. If Aecioo is cop cool if not he will get killed anyways
Im hating all the but this game isnt normal, beacuse underneath it all um yes it is

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turbopuns3
06/14/20 4:39:31 PM
#61:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Again UNDERNEATH IT ALL IT IS STILL A MAFIA GAME

I am not scum, yet killing bolt today reduces my chances to win.

This. is. not. a. typical. mafia. game.

There is no getting around it!
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turbopuns3
06/14/20 4:44:30 PM
#64:


oh man, haven't watched Archer in so long
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TheSultanOfSlam
06/14/20 4:47:42 PM
#65:


##unvote:Lea
##vote:Bolt

fuck it kill the confirmed scum fuck this

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ViolentAbacus
06/14/20 4:49:12 PM
#68:


A valiant effort, Lea.

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HanOfTheNekos
06/14/20 5:06:23 PM
#69:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Id be pissed if i was aecioo too.. like im the fucking cop please just listen to me and then no one listens id be mad 2

Nobody is not listening to Aecioo. He outed Scum. That's not in question.

The questions are:

  1. Is Bolt correct that Aecioo is actually the zombie maker?
  2. Do we want to be nice and give Lea a chance to win and exit the game?


That's basically it.

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masterplum
06/14/20 5:06:27 PM
#70:


[5] - Bolt - (Lea), Aecioo, (Death), (Lea), Chang, (Han), Sheep, Death, Sultan
[2] - IGCD - (Han), (Lea), (Chang), Fire, (Sheep), (Death), Lea
[2] - Han - IGCD, Bolt
[1] - Lea - (Sultan), Puns
[1] - Fire - Abacus
[1] -Aecioo - Puns, (Bolt), (Abacus)
[0] - Scare - (Han)
[0]- Puns - (Han), (Bolt), (Chang)
[0] - Chang - (Han,) (Lea)

13 Alive 7 to lynch

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TheSultanOfSlam
06/14/20 5:06:58 PM
#71:


Still cool if we go lea first beacuse like i said the town role pms clearly say independence survivor or win with town.. and her rebuttal to that was a bunch of bs and calling me adorable and blaming set up for her being caught and trying to defelt everything as its a different type of game. Yes that may be true but if we catch scum uh lets kill scum. Puns you said Bolt dying hurts you okay we get enough people to go lea sure ill help. ALTERNATIVELY we have a confirmed scum why is everyone dancing. We can win this as town and have others win on their own would be the best corse of action. It is possible to win as an independent but also possible to win as town.. granted yes i know it is possible to win on my own why not help the greater good. The underlining facter is everyone is being selfish.

I know no one listens to me and passes me off as stupid but i know what the fuck im doing and talking about

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TheSultanOfSlam
06/14/20 5:08:31 PM
#72:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Nobody is not listening to Aecioo. He outed Scum. That's not in question.

The questions are:

1. Is Bolt correct that Aecioo is actually the zombie maker?
2. Do we want to be nice and give Lea a chance to win and exit the game?

That's basically it.


Yeah i get that. Bolt is probably trying to save himself. And leas argument i dont agree with so

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turbopuns3
06/14/20 5:09:21 PM
#74:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
The underlining facter is everyone is being selfish.

Because the host TOLD me to be selfish when he gave me an INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR alignment.

I am playing to win 100% if not more than you are! Do you see that? I get that you are frustrated I just want to make sure you don't think I'm like, just being an ass for no reason?
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htaeD
06/14/20 5:16:32 PM
#76:


I want to help you Lea, sorta.
Though it feels odd that you can only prove yourself by leaving the game (in an optimal situation)

Regardless I am not lynching Aecioo, so what then?
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turbopuns3
06/14/20 5:28:41 PM
#78:


##unvote
##vote: Lea

Lynching Lea is ironically my best play here but that's not gonna happen!

So enjoy the rest of the day doing whatever. I'm about to go to the park and hammock it up
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htaeD
06/14/20 5:32:30 PM
#79:


I forget, what did Puns claim?
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TheSultanOfSlam
06/14/20 5:35:27 PM
#80:


masterplum posted...
Otherwise you win if Town doesnt succumb to the virus


Litterally says we are Town..

Lea your argument is just wrong

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ViolentAbacus
06/14/20 5:35:57 PM
#81:


I don't think we should vote bolt when Lea can kill him. Besides being nice, I don't think it's necessarily bad people win the game. Plus it lets us look at other players and see how they've been playing.

e.g. Sultan seems very upset about not trusting the cop, based off the one game I'd say he's town.
Aecioo - the cop claim would be the safest claim, especially if you know who scum are. Also with how the game is, I can't imagine there's a player who is supposed to work with town moreso than the rest. That being said, I think we should keep him alive because if he is actually a non-scum (I will call nobody town!) then he is probably the next to die.

That being said the people I'd be willing to lynch, as of meow, are

Firefdr - has basically been nonexistent?
Pendragon - for mostly the same reason
Chang - For following Han so much
Abacus - putting myself on here so that you think "Hey, he's obv. non-scum if he's putting himself to be lynched"
Han - Because it'd be funny

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htaeD
06/14/20 5:44:50 PM
#82:


Inb4 someone's condition is to not post all day
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ViolentAbacus
06/14/20 5:46:26 PM
#83:


htaeD posted...
Inb4 someone's condition is to not post all day

I have given up mostly on my condition, at least for now. It would behoove me to help less than I am.

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fire_bolt
06/14/20 5:48:30 PM
#84:


Leanansidhe posted...
If I can't save my good pal Bolt then I shall avenge him, maybe


This is why you're my favorite fairy godmother <3

Leanansidhe posted...
but lynching Aecioo is not correct here. Not before Bolt flips.


Ok, a little less. If you lynch me today then later realize I'm right then it is already too late. Aecioo will already have introduced another zombie into the game. Like even if you vig shoot him tonight it will be too late for that. If town believes I could be right at all then dealing with the Zombie Maker first is the right call. Plus Lea can always gun me down tonight instead of a random townie
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HanOfTheNekos
06/14/20 5:48:56 PM
#85:


Where's Red?

Red is always Scum.

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htaeD
06/14/20 5:50:20 PM
#86:


Sorry bolt. Nothing personal, but I just cannot trust a claimed scum.

Oh yeah thats right...
Why should we wait to kill you when Lea shooting you wont prevent another murder by your hands?
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fire_bolt
06/14/20 5:53:10 PM
#87:


htaeD posted...
Why should we wait to kill you when Lea shooting you wont prevent another murder by your hands?


I mean, the main reason is because I'm not the biggest threat here. Like, by a wide margin. From town perspective which is worse? Me killing one more player OR the zombie maker converting a player? That unknown zombie will go on to wreak havoc on you folks far worse than I will be able to overnight. Lynching me and leaving Aecioo alive is incredibly short sighted
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HanOfTheNekos
06/14/20 5:53:27 PM
#88:


oh duh, fair point

sorry Lea

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htaeD
06/14/20 5:56:54 PM
#89:


I guess, but then I also shouldnt have asked you that since I know you wont/cant answer any other way.
It was more intended for Lea.
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Sheep007
06/14/20 6:20:04 PM
#91:


But there is also no point in not lynching Bolt today if you don't believe him on Arti, because the only thing that does is kill an extra person tonight. I dunno if people are playing the odds or what, but I would rather not have the extra chance of dying to scum tonight and losing instantly? I definitely get why if Lea is being truthful or saying something along the lines of the truth, she would gain from this course of action, but I am not sure how many other people do regardless of whether you are in an Indy game or not?

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HanOfTheNekos
06/14/20 6:23:02 PM
#92:


I'm pretty positive we're lynching Bolt.

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Sheep007
06/14/20 6:25:48 PM
#93:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
I'm pretty positive we're lynching Bolt.
I am too but I want something to talk about and it would be nice to figure people's thoughts out a bit more.

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firefdr
06/14/20 6:35:42 PM
#94:


##unvote
##vote: Bolt

yeah, lynching bolt is the only smart option here, we can't risk a mislynch + Lea leaving + another bolt night kill
seeing bolt's role PM would give us some interesting info about the zombie maker

and I most certainly buy the cop claim here, no way Aecioo would get this frustrated with everyone if this was some bluff
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fire_bolt
06/14/20 6:38:47 PM
#95:


\_()_/

Next time you guys wonder why I have no faith in B8 towns, remember this exact moment. Looks like I'm getting 3 back to back "I told you so" games when town loses because they failed to lynch the person who converts townies to scum
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HanOfTheNekos
06/14/20 6:43:11 PM
#96:


Quiet, you.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Bolt

stop stop stop stop

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TheSultanOfSlam
06/14/20 6:55:46 PM
#97:


@masterplum

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masterplum
06/14/20 7:08:46 PM
#98:


[7] - Bolt - (Lea), Aecioo, (Death), (Lea), Chang, (Han), Sheep, Death, Sultan, Fire, Han
[2] - Han - IGCD, Bolt
[1] - IGCD - (Han), (Lea), (Chang), (Fire), (Sheep), (Death), Lea
[1] - Lea - (Sultan), Puns
[1] - Fire - Abacus
[1] -Aecioo - Puns, (Bolt), (Abacus)
[0] - Scare - (Han)
[0]- Puns - (Han), (Bolt), (Chang)
[0] - Chang - (Han,) (Lea)

Everyone decided to kill Bolt. Bolt put up a good struggle but eventually was lynched.

His head then detached from his body. It was gross.

Bolt has died he was

You are a zombie. INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR SCUM Zombie. Every night you and your zombie pal must pick someone to kill. You win if town succumbs to the virus. ( like a mafia win normally)

WINNERS
  1. HB - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR PACIFIST
LOSERS
  1. Ben - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR MASOCHIST
  2. Bolt - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR SCUM ZOMBIE


PlayerList
  1. Abacus
  2. Aecioo
  3. Chang
  4. Death
  5. FireFdr
  6. IGCD
  7. Han
  8. Lea
  9. Pendragon
  10. Puns
  11. Sheep
  12. Sultan


People were happy. A few people were happier than others. Some people got mad that their quests for self fulfilmet were harder than others.

Get actions in by 4 tomorrow. Day begins at 8 Est

If IGCD posts at night again he is getting modkilled for real this time

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masterplum
06/14/20 7:41:47 PM
#99:


IMPORTANT NOTE

I just realized that there is relevant information that I told Bolt in the scum chat that should have made it into the initial role pm and thus should have made it into the flip above. I overlooked it initially because experimental game etc. Normally I wouldn't reveal this but this absolutely would have been in the role PM had I been competent at my job.

This was in chat to him:

To clarify a few things to you guys that I probably should have told you. There is another player who created the zombie virus that knows who you are.

If this causes you to want to change a night action for whatever reason please just let me know thanks.

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masterplum
06/15/20 7:57:56 PM
#100:


PEOPLE ARE RUNNING FOR THE HILLS!

As the dawn breaks two runners sprint over the hills. They are running for freedom!

CHANG HAS ESCAPED! HE WAS

You waited your whole life to kill people. Nows your chance. You are INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR HAMMERER. If you place a vote on someone which causes the day to end immediately (A hammer) you will attempt to leave the game the night after the following day (So D1 Hammer, N1, D2, N2- You attempt to leave here) If you are not killed during that night you will leave the game and win. Otherwise you win if Town doesnt succumb to the virus. (like a town win normally)

SHEEP HAS ESCAPED! HE WAS

You figure the best way to deal with an apocalypse is just have everyone leave you alone. You are INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR SOCIAL DISTANCER. After two days go by where nobody votes for you (Not necessarily sequentially), you will attempt to make an escape at night. If you are not killed that night you will escape and win. Otherwise you win if Town doesnt succumb to the virus. (like a town win normally)

The two high five as they make their way to the nearby town and coverse what to do next.

"I'm probably going to make houses or do whatever else Changs do" Chang mentioned

"I'm probably going to tragically be eaten by a zombie. Because that would suck happening the night I escape"

Chang though this was an odd thing to postulate, and then looked over and found that sheep was in fact eaten by a zombie on the night he escaped.

That indeed did suck.

SHEEP HAS BEEN KILLED WHILE ESCAPING

WINNERS
  1. HB - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR PACIFIST
  2. Chang - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR HAMMERER
LOSERS
  1. Ben - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR MASOCHIST
  2. Bolt - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR SCUM ZOMBIE
  3. Sheep - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR SOCIAL DISTANCER


PlayerList
  1. Abacus
  2. Aecioo
  3. Death
  4. FireFdr
  5. IGCD
  6. Han
  7. Lea
  8. Pendragon
  9. Puns
  10. Sultan


Day Ends Wednesday at 8 PM Est


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