Board 8 > Independent Survivor Mafia Topic 2 - Electric Boogaloo

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turbopuns3 posted...

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We wouldn't want to make the natives restless

If Lea gets turned into a zombie, I would assume that means she 'dies' which means she can't fulfill her original win condition.

Mine states that I try to leave, and being killed negates it.

So if Lea shoots Bolt, but doesn't leave because she got turned into a zombie, then Lea just got dicked over by a zombie recruiter who made a bad strategic decision.

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I know you said you're on mobile plum, but if you or anyone else wants to post votals right now that might be helpful

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Aecioo posted...

At the end of the day this game is bizarre and we have no idea what peoples roles are or what their individual win conditions are. I take every claim with a grain of salt, as should you all, even when it comes to my own claim of cop. You have no idea what my win condition is and I don't know what yours is. What it all comes down to is that town all has the same win condition - eliminate scum. We have someone who has outright claimed scum and is trying to stop us from lynching him.

If you truly believe that not killing the one CONFIRMED scum and leaving it in the hands of someone who has their own agenda is the best course of action, go for it. I don't understand it and never will. My vote stays.

i'm just going to requote myself here so it doesn't get lost at the end of topic 1

there's nothing more i can say

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To be quite honest, I'm more likely to win if I don't lynch Bolt today, despite not being scum myself. that is assuming there's more than 1 non-bolt scum

I mean more than 0 non-bolt scum

turbopuns3 posted...

To be quite honest, I'm more likely to win if I don't lynch Bolt today, despite not being scum myself. that is assuming there's more than 1 non-bolt scum

You're also more likely to win with scum if you eliminate them and win with town. Or you can take the word of someone who admitted they are scum as gospel

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Is Sultan still on me?

Anyway, gonna go wild

##Vote: FireFdr

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i worded that real poorly but you know what I mean lol

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I'm not taking anyone's word for anything

Well except that bolt is scum. I believe that lol

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Lea is scum beacuse town role pms say independent survivor or win how town would normally win

##vote:Lea

Caught her red handed

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ViolentAbacus posted...

Is Sultan still on me?

Anyway, gonna go wild

##Vote: FireFdr

No


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Sultan outta nowhere!
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Am i adorable or did i catch scum or both?

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##unvote
##vote: Lea

Can't shoot me if you're dead! Owned.

Aecioo, what's your flavor name?

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[4] - Bolt - (Lea), Aecioo, (Death), (Lea), Chang, (Han), Sheep, Death
[2] - IGCD - (Han), (Lea), (Chang), Fire, (Sheep), (Death), Lea
[2] - Han - IGCD, Bolt
[2] - Lea - Sultan, Puns
[1] - Fire - Abacus
[1] -Aecioo - Puns, (Bolt), (Abacus)
[0] - Scare - (Han)
[0]- Puns - (Han), (Bolt), (Chang)
[0] - Chang - (Han,) (Lea)

13 Alive 7 to lynch

Day ends in 4.5 Hours

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Aecioo, what's your flavor name?

honestly done with you asking me every hour for more info on my claim when we have someone who has already confirmed they're scum

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Break at work. Caught up to here.

I didn't ask about "happy" flavor because I want to kill it. Why the fuck would scum want to keep a cop in the game? Better to let them cop scan out, even if you folks Lynch me today other scum would want to let the cop out I would think

No, I'm betting Aecioo is ass pulling this flavor. Glad to see some folks taking me seriously. It's a good feeling after last game where we literally lost because nobody believes me on B8. Put a little trust in a player who likes to kill scum even as scum, folks
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Aecioo posted...

honestly done with you asking me every hour for more info on my claim when we have someone who has already confirmed they're scum

Lmao I fucking bet you're done trying to answer questions that could hem you up in a lie. Don't be salty you over played your hand. Next time you'll learn a little more about who you're stepping to before trying some crap like this
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fire_bolt posted...

I didn't ask about "happy" flavor because I want to kill it. Why the fuck would scum want to keep a cop in the game? Better to let them cop scan out, even if you folks Lynch me today other scum would want to let the cop out I would think

huh

no one said that

you want someone to confirm my flavor so that I will exit the game tonight

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fire_bolt posted...

Lmao I fucking bet you're done trying to answer questions that could hem you up in a lie. Don't be salty you over played your hand. Next time you'll learn a little more about who you're stepping to before trying some crap like this

Yeah yeah. I stepped to the person who outright confirmed they are scum. What a bad play by me, having someone not even deny they are scum and they shot town last night

oops

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Go get another ride and be done with day until you see another post to pounce on

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Leanansidhe posted...

If only we were playing mafia.

If you want an actually functional game where everybody is on their own team but still have to socially agree on who wins or loses via charisma, deception, and subterfuge, I know just the one...!

Aecioo your flavorname should at least be fair to give..
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Personally, guys, we knew this game was going to be an experimental imbalanced crazy-zone going in, so we could all stand to take a breath and grab a drink.

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htaeD posted...

Aecioo your flavorname should at least be fair to give..

Its INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR COP. There's no other flavor to it. Han is asking me question after question about my role, shoots down every response I give as not being real, and continues to ask things. While once again pushing for us to not lynch the guy who literally claimed scum

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I need to go back and even see if Han questioned bolt at all. It seems like he is more intent on tearing down my role as opposed to the guy who

LITERALLY
CLAIMS
SCUM

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The whole scum thing is simply not equally important to everyone

Aecioo posted...

I need to go back and even see if Han questioned bolt at all. It seems like he is more intent on tearing down my role as opposed to the guy who

LITERALLY
CLAIMS
SCUM

Bud I got real bad news for you. Han is not the one you want to fuck with if you want to walk away today alive lmao, but by all means keep digging your own grave. Would you like to borrow a bigger shovel?

Break over, cya later nerds. Honestly this is the most fun I've had in mafia on B8 ever. Not even mad at Plum for fucking me over in setup
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Why would I question Bolt? He claimed Scum and claimed that a zombie maker knows who he is.

What's there to question him about?

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I understand why you're frustrated but just keep in mind that Han and everyone else here is a shady selfish bastard due to our roles, so it may not super be about believing you or not, or about believing bolt is scum or not

Everyone's just trying to fish for info without revealing their goals

Id be pissed if i was aecioo too.. like im the fucking cop please just listen to me and then no one listens id be mad 2

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Everyone is independent. We don't have the same social contract as we have in a normal game. So that fundamentally changes some things. In a regular game, claiming cop with a guilty is basically never met with much skepticism, based largely on the fact town has a collective goal without other objectives, and that is to kill scum. If you reveal the info, town will just go along because it helps every single town equally, and the chances of the claim being a lie are tiny. Here, there is no town. There areonly people who aren't scum. Aecioo made a play based on standard game concepts that don't all apply here. I suppose the frustration is understandable, but he was perhaps better off not claiming.

turbopuns3 posted...

Everyone is independent. We don't have the same social contract as we have in a normal game. So that fundamentally changes some things. In a regular game, claiming cop with a guilty is basically never met with much skepticism, based largely on the fact town has a collective goal without other objectives, and that is to kill scum. If you reveal the info, town will just go along because it helps every single town equally, and the chances of the claim being a lie are tiny. Here, there is no town. There areonly people who aren't scum. Aecioo made a play based on standard game concepts that don't all apply here. I suppose the frustration is understandable, but he was perhaps better off not claiming.

But underneath everything their is also town and scum and majority of people probably can only win in the traditional game...

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

But underneath everything their is also town and scum and majority of people probably can only win in the traditional game...

Hence why some people are voting bolt and others are not

Hol up

Aecioo posted...

Clearly scum should mass claim and then we ruin this game by all 15 people working together to have scum win with as few casualties as possible.

:thinking:

Wait lea also said bolt dying risked her chances of winning so both Bolt and Lea are scum

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Leanansidhe posted...

Sultan, I'm begging you, please, read the game. You might find you like it!

I am and you look like scum

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After reviewing my own role PM and the rules in post #1, I wonder if Aecioo is just cop without a separate win con who made up a lie to stay alive longer