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Houston
06/12/20 12:46:48 PM
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Our calls for service have more than tripled, she told reporters. These are responses to emergency calls rapes, robberies, and all sorts of violent acts that have been occurring in the area that were not able to get to.

https://news.yahoo.com/seattle-police-chief-not-able-124718101.html

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Tsuyoi3
06/12/20 1:21:26 PM
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https://twitter.com/SeattlePD/status/1269474731717087233?s=19
https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1270119554816098306?s=19
https://twitter.com/spekulation/status/1270900664822951936?s=19
SPD be acting fools.

Our calls for service have more than tripled, she told reporters. These are responses to emergency calls rapes, robberies, and all sorts of violent acts that have been occurring in the area that were not able to get to.
Calls for service are responses to emergency calls? I'm confused.
They say calls have tripled in the area. Each has tripled, or they've gotten 3x the amount of calls in general.

Considering how bs they've been, I'm not particularly trusting total honesty from them (or most people tbh)

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darkprince45
06/12/20 1:24:01 PM
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Tsuyoi3 posted...
Calls for service are responses to emergency calls?
Yes?? Anything not a proactive stop is a call for service. Whats confusing

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Odoylerules
06/12/20 1:24:32 PM
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The cops have an agenda
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Tsuyoi3
06/12/20 1:26:14 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Yes?? Anything not a proactive stop is a call for service. Whats confusing
I'm confused because I thought a call for service and an emergency call are the same thing.

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kingdrake2
06/12/20 1:28:58 PM
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Houston posted...
rapes, robberies, and all sorts of violent acts that have been occurring in the area that were not able to get to.


it's not the best idea to go into that lawless zone :(. still sucks for those involved who cant get help.
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BathroomWater
06/12/20 1:29:18 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/19/us/police-sexual-assaults-maryland-scope/index.html

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darkprince45
06/12/20 1:30:12 PM
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Tsuyoi3 posted...
I'm confused because I thought a call for service and an emergency call are the same thing.
Theyre making an effort to point calls are tripling and rise of violent crimes

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Colorahdo
06/12/20 1:32:39 PM
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wait there's seriously a county that got rid of police?

wtf

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TheVipaGTS
06/12/20 1:33:51 PM
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So all of a sudden rape and murder are rampant all over the city and the only thing stopping it before was that the rapists were scared of people calling 911. Yea ok.

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RemixRBG
06/12/20 1:34:24 PM
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This is like in Civ 6 when the city takes over and becomes a free curry because you've lost their loyalty
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sktgamer_13dude
06/12/20 1:35:23 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Again, the police that left their precinct? The same police that shot tear gas at protestors AFTER saying they wouldn't for 30 days? The same exact police that threw a concussion grenade at a peaceful protestor standing there that nearly killed them on the fucking spot. Or how about the same police that then tear gassed the medic tent where medics were trying to bring said protestor to life.


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TheAnthraxBunny
06/12/20 1:35:58 PM
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RemixRBG posted...
This is like in Civ 6 when the city takes over and becomes a free curry because you've lost their loyalty
I can smell it from here.

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Were_Wyrm
06/12/20 1:36:00 PM
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Let them police themselves

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Hop103
06/12/20 1:36:32 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
wait there's seriously a county that got rid of police?

wtf


Yep, that's what happens when antifa are allowed to run amok in a county.
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WaterLink
06/12/20 1:37:54 PM
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This same thing happened during occupy wall st
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sktgamer_13dude
06/12/20 1:38:44 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
wait there's seriously a county that got rid of police?

wtf
Its a 6 block zone around the East Seattle Precinct. The same one the cops abandoned in hopes that protestors would set it on fire or destroy it somehow. The worst thing to happen to it was they spray painted People over the world Police in Seattle Police Department.

Conservatives are losing their collective minds over it.

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gamer167
06/12/20 1:40:43 PM
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Sounds like a bunch of bored and broke white people with nothing better to do.
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Zikten
06/12/20 1:42:17 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
wait there's seriously a county that got rid of police?

wtf

Its not a whole county its a neighborhood of Seattle.
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sktgamer_13dude
06/12/20 1:43:10 PM
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Also conservative media talked about how businesses in the autonomous zone have been extorted for security purposes. Someone reached out to the business manager of the area who hadnt heard jack shit about the reports.

Wanna know who was the source for Fox News? The fucking police.

Seattle Police also fed false reports of Proud Boys coming in to riot the night they abandoned their precinct.

Fuck Seattle PD and anyone who trusts their word right now, I have a bridge to sell you in West Seattle.

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sktgamer_13dude
06/12/20 1:43:58 PM
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gamer167 posted...
Sounds like a bunch of bored and broke white people with nothing better to do.
That group is the one clutching their pearls about the situation.

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gamer167
06/12/20 1:45:48 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

That group is the one clutching their pearls about the situation.


The protesters inside the zone, yeah they seem pretty dumb.
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AlephZero
06/12/20 1:47:17 PM
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Communities can police themselves, there's no reason for the police to get involved.

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Vivec
06/12/20 1:47:22 PM
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Hop103 posted...
Yep, that's what happens when antifa are allowed to run amok in a county.
Brainworms

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Colorahdo
06/12/20 1:47:43 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Its a 6 block zone around the East Seattle Precinct. The same one the cops abandoned in hopes that protestors would set it on fire or destroy it somehow. The worst thing to happen to it was they spray painted People over the world Police in Seattle Police Department.

Conservatives are losing their collective minds over it.

huh

seems suspicious for the cops to claim rapes have tripled in such a tiny area

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MarqueeSeries
06/12/20 1:47:51 PM
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Police never really cared about rape victims before, so I assure you they dont now either

I'm beginning to think that most of the stuff we hear about this autonomous zone might be media manipulation from bad actors...surely not though, right?
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Hop103
06/12/20 1:49:18 PM
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gamer167 posted...
Sounds like a bunch of bored and broke white people with nothing better to do.


That's Antifa in a nutshell minus the broke part, they're mostly affluent white folks with blind anger, very rudimentary to even no understanding of well nearly anything about society and how things work, including civil rights, and nothing better to do.
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The23rdMagus
06/12/20 1:49:22 PM
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MarqueeSeries posted...
Police never really cared about rape victims before, so I assure you they dont now either

I'm beginning to think that most of the stuff we hear about this autonomous zone might be media manipulation from bad actors...surely not though, right?
You think they would do that? You think that they would lie to people? Wow. How could they?

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sktgamer_13dude
06/12/20 1:53:04 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
huh

seems suspicious for the cops to claim rapes have tripled in such a tiny area
Its like Seattle PD cant be trusted right now. Theyve completely botched their response to the protests and deserve all the shit flung at them.

These dumb shits literally had a knee on a protestors neck within 24 hours. They flash bang, tear gas, and pepper spray citizens for their umbrellas.

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Tyranthraxus
06/12/20 1:53:27 PM
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MarqueeSeries posted...
Police never really cared about rape victims before, so I assure you they dont now either

I'm beginning to think that most of the stuff we hear about this autonomous zone might be media manipulation from bad actors...surely not though, right?

Mostly this but it's not bad actors. Just a disinformation campaign. It's legal to blatantly lie about something on media so long as you claim someone else said it because at that point you're reporting that someone said thing and not reporting thing itself.

People don't take it what way, though.

The #dcblackout garbage was the most successful version of this in recent events. Lots of people got fooled.

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MaxEffingBemis
06/12/20 1:53:29 PM
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gamer167 posted...
Sounds like a bunch of bored and broke white people with nothing better to do.
Didnt you say this in the other topic yesterday?

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ThePrinceFish
06/12/20 1:53:44 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
Didnt you say this in the other topic yesterday?
Did it get less true since yesterday

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sktgamer_13dude
06/12/20 1:58:45 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Did it get less true since yesterday
Yes.

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Guerrilla Soldier
06/12/20 2:06:46 PM
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"why did we even have police to begin with!"
*gets rid of police, crime becomes unstoppable*
"...oh yeah."

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Ruvan22
06/12/20 2:08:19 PM
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Hop103 posted...
That's Antifa in a nutshell minus the broke part, they're mostly affluent white folks with blind anger, very rudimentary to even no understanding of well nearly anything about society and how things work, including civil rights, and nothing better to do.

That's Trump supports in a nutshell, they're mostly affluent white folks with blind anger, very rudimentary to even no understanding of well nearly anything about society and how things work, including civil rights, and nothing better to do.

Wow broad unsubstantiated claims are fun! If only there were a national movement right now NOT to use broad stereotypes... /s
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bobbysjoby2
06/12/20 2:14:35 PM
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Guerrilla Soldier posted...
"why did we even have police to begin with!"
*gets rid of police, crime becomes unstoppable*
"...oh yeah."

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sktgamer_13dude
06/12/20 2:22:15 PM
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Its pretty telling see all the conservative posters gloss over all the shitty things Seattle PD has done and just blindly trust what they say.

Hope their boots taste great.

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The23rdMagus
06/12/20 2:28:48 PM
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Hm. I wonder what else they've lied about.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-area-protests-updates-for-thursday-june-11/#update-12846417

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TomNook20
06/12/20 2:30:02 PM
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Don't know if I buy that. Seattle is not exactly a hot spot for violent crime and the police want to get their building back.

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sondast
06/12/20 2:30:32 PM
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AlephZero posted...
Communities can police themselves, there's no reason for the police to get involved.
Yeah, if you dont like your local warlord you can just move on to the next one.

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The23rdMagus
06/12/20 2:31:56 PM
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sondast posted...
Yeah, if you dont like your local warlord you can just move on to the next one.
Sounds like they didn't like the ones the city gave 'em.

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sktgamer_13dude
06/12/20 2:32:33 PM
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The23rdMagus posted...
Hm. I wonder what else they've lied about.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-area-protests-updates-for-thursday-june-11/#update-12846417
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Tyranthraxus
06/12/20 2:33:22 PM
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Guerrilla Soldier posted...
"why did we even have police to begin with!"
*gets rid of police, crime becomes unstoppable*
"...oh yeah."

Out of every 1,000 rapes:

230 are reported to the police.
46 reports lead to an arrest.
9 cases are referred to a prosecutor.
5 cases result in a felony conviction.
4.6 rapists are incarcerated.

Out of every 1,000 robberies:

619 are reported.
167 reports lead to an arrest.
37 cases get referred to a prosecutor.
22 cases lead to a felony conviction.
20 robbers are incarcerated.

Out of every 1,000 assault and battery crimes:

627 are reported.
255 reports lead to an arrest.
105 cases get referred to a prosecutor.
41 cases lead to a felony conviction.
33 criminals are incarcerated.

Doin a real great job stopping all that crime.

Oh hey I wonder what % of police homicides go unpunished. Anyone know the number for that?


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MarqueeSeries
06/12/20 2:36:05 PM
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Guerrilla Soldier posted...
"why did we even have police to begin with!"
*gets rid of police, crime becomes unstoppable*
"...oh yeah."

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/clearances

Doesnt seem like they're doing a very good job to begin with
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Iron-Tarkus
06/12/20 2:38:54 PM
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The23rdMagus posted...
Hm. I wonder what else they've lied about.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-area-protests-updates-for-thursday-june-11/#update-12846417
The fearmongering about the autonomous zone is insane.

Trying to learn anything about whats happening gets you bombarded by dubious far right news sites and those parroting them claiming its a lawless wasteland. Then any videos or pictures you find from inside the place shows people literally just vibing in there.

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Antifar
06/12/20 2:39:15 PM
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Remember, this all started when Seattle Police abandoned their precinct (taking all their documents and equipment with them)and told nearby businesses that they expected it to get burned down.
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Esrac
06/12/20 2:40:28 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Out of every 1,000 rapes:

230 are reported to the police.
46 reports lead to an arrest.
9 cases are referred to a prosecutor.
5 cases result in a felony conviction.
4.6 rapists are incarcerated.

Out of every 1,000 robberies:

619 are reported.
167 reports lead to an arrest.
37 cases get referred to a prosecutor.
22 cases lead to a felony conviction.
20 robbers are incarcerated.

Out of every 1,000 assault and battery crimes:

627 are reported.
255 reports lead to an arrest.
105 cases get referred to a prosecutor.
41 cases lead to a felony conviction.
33 criminals are incarcerated.

Doin a real great job stopping all that crime.

Oh hey I wonder what % of police homicides go unpunished. Anyone know the number for that?

You're right. They should do away with due process and just immediately convict everyone that is reported. Hell, they should arrest and convict more proactively, even before a crime is reported.
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MarqueeSeries
06/12/20 2:43:03 PM
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Esrac posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Out of every 1,000 rapes:

230 are reported to the police.
46 reports lead to an arrest.
9 cases are referred to a prosecutor.
5 cases result in a felony conviction.
4.6 rapists are incarcerated.

Out of every 1,000 robberies:

619 are reported.
167 reports lead to an arrest.
37 cases get referred to a prosecutor.
22 cases lead to a felony conviction.
20 robbers are incarcerated.

Out of every 1,000 assault and battery crimes:

627 are reported.
255 reports lead to an arrest.
105 cases get referred to a prosecutor.
41 cases lead to a felony conviction.
33 criminals are incarcerated.

Doin a real great job stopping all that crime.

Oh hey I wonder what % of police homicides go unpunished. Anyone know the number for that?

You're right. They should do away with due process and just immediately convict everyone that is reported. Hell, they should arrest and convict more proactively, even before a crime is reported.

Or we should focus more funds on programs that actually target the root cause of those crimes (usually mental health and poverty)

Why can't you just discuss this honestly without hyperbole?
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ScazarMeltex
06/12/20 2:44:27 PM
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Why should I trust a single word that comes out the Seattle PD's mouth?

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