Current Events > Played one match of WARZONE then went straight back to siege

(+) Yeah! (+)

The drop shotting, jumping around and teammates rushing blindly is the dumbest shit Ive seen.


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It really is. I dont get why devs seem to think that bunny hopping and drop shotting should be genuine strategies for a shooter.

I remember the first time I told my friend to try Siege and he was like its not letting me jump and I was like no shit lol. Or the time he tried drop shotting and instantly got headshotted and killed for trying to do so. Thats how it should be everywhere.

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i think they feel stuck with it even tho its shit, just like quick scoping

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2SweetforTurtle posted...

It really is. I dont get why devs seem to think that bunny hopping and drop shotting should be genuine strategies for a shooter.

I remember the first time I told my friend to try Siege and he was like its not letting me jump and I was like no shit lol. Or the time he tried drop shotting and instantly got headshotted and killed for trying to do so. Thats how it should be everywhere.

yup. Especially sprinting around a corner. Thats like copper ranked shit.

you can get away with it in call of duty because of the ass net code, so they can sprint, see you before you see them and shoot you even though it shows you shot them like 3 times on your screen

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Still more fun than pre-aiming a doorway/corner for 30 seconds, shooting an enemy that comes by, then pre-aiming a different doorway/corner for 30 seconds, all while claymores block the other entrances. "See the enemy first and win the gunfight 100% of the time even against a better player" gameplay is boring.

It's realistic, yeah. But realism is boring. That's why I play CoD instead of Battlefield or Siege.
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I've been playing Siege since the alpha and this season is the first time I pretty much am sick of the meta

KBM players and smurfs galore on Xbox, this is what I always point out when people complain about SBMM in Modern Warfare; it's protecting us from all these smurfs lol

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GallisOTK posted...

Still more fun than pre-aiming a doorway/corner for 30 seconds, shooting an enemy that comes by, then pre-aiming a different doorway/corner for 30 seconds, all while claymores block the other entrances. "See the enemy first and win the gunfight 100% of the time even against a better player" gameplay is boring.

It's realistic, yeah. But realism is boring. That's why I play CoD instead of Battlefield or Siege.

honestly it sounds like youre bad if thats all you do

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That's why you play TLOU: Factions for some real fun/challenge
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Youre comparing a battle royale to a tactical shooter

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GallisOTK posted...

Still more fun than pre-aiming a doorway/corner for 30 seconds, shooting an enemy that comes by, then pre-aiming a different doorway/corner for 30 seconds, all while claymores block the other entrances. "See the enemy first and win the gunfight 100% of the time even against a better player" gameplay is boring.

You literally just described the MW meta. Ever heard of the 725? Every mfer sits in a corner with that shit and has claymores set up at the entrances.

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Armor helps the experience a lot imo. Regular CoD is practically unplayable, but there are a few areas of the WarZone map that make really interesting situations in Plunder/ Blood Money. Two of my favorites are the hospital and the tallest tower down town. Getting a buddy and setting up traps to control key areas can be a lot of fun. And armor and perks help you not get killed by bs.

My busy has been going for riot shield skins lately so we have been partnering up with him a the distraction and me putting down targets lately. It's fucking hilarious lmao.

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My favorite is when I shoot people first, even on their screen, and I still die first.

Their servers are trash af.

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gna647 posted...

honestly it sounds like youre bad if thats all you do

It's not what I do. I don't have the patience to play like that. It's not fun for me in the slightest. I play shooters for fast-paced action and constant engagement, and a fast time-to-kill and "shoot first, always win" gameplay leads to the exact opposite of that. I prefer a game that not only promotes running around looking for gunfights, but encourages it by making camping harder and rewarding aggressive play.

MW2019 is actually too slow and campy for my tastes, so I'd probably be bored out of skull playing Siege.

2SweetforTurtle posted...

You literally just described the MW meta. Ever heard of the 725? Every mfer sits in a corner with that shit and has claymores set up at the entrances.

Hence why I went back to playing CoD WW2.
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2SweetforTurtle posted...

You literally just described the MW meta. Ever heard of the 725? Every mfer sits in a corner with that shit and has claymores set up at the entrances.

This hasn't been true since like November lol

I haven't seen 725 spam in months

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Jumping shouldnt exist in Call of Duty.

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Yeah I wish they would just take out dropshotting already, it's so fucking stupid

And jumping around corners too

DarthAragorn posted...

Yeah I wish they would just take out dropshotting already, it's so fucking stupid

And jumping around corners too

I mean, what exactly do you expect people to do in the face of oncoming gunfire? Every close-quarters gunfight would be a battle of who has the faster ROF, just like every Black Ops game to date

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xeSxTlJsOKE&t=16s

AvantgardeAClue posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

Yeah I wish they would just take out dropshotting already, it's so fucking stupid

And jumping around corners too

I mean, what exactly do you expect people to do in the face of oncoming gunfire? Every close-quarters gunfight would be a battle of who has the faster ROF, just like every Black Ops game to date

Have people, idk, just aim better?

AvantgardeAClue posted...

I mean, what exactly do you expect people to do in the face of oncoming gunfire? Every close-quarters gunfight would be a battle of who has the faster ROF, just like every Black Ops game to date

well in siege

it depends on who has better aim and can aim for the head

so it makes sense. Unlike jumping around a corner unrealistically

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gna647 posted...

well in siege

it depends on who has better aim and can aim for the head

so it makes sense. Unlike jumping around a corner unrealistically

Siege =/= CoD

Headshots are instakills in Siege whereas in CoD theyre simply a damage multiplier. So it makes more sense for people to go for center-mass up close and personal

If you take out any sort of movement advantage people could have up close like dropshotting, itll just be a numbers game

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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Siege =/= CoD

Headshots are instakills in Siege whereas in CoD theyre simply a damage multiplier. So it makes more sense for people to go for center-mass up close and personal

If you take out any sort of movement advantage people could have up close like dropshotting, itll just be a numbers game

well siege just proves that wrong


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2SweetforTurtle posted...

It really is. I dont get why devs seem to think that bunny hopping and drop shotting should be genuine strategies for a shooter.

I remember the first time I told my friend to try Siege and he was like its not letting me jump and I was like no shit lol. Or the time he tried drop shotting and instantly got headshotted and killed for trying to do so. Thats how it should be everywhere.

Titanfall 2 takes 100x more skill than Seige ever will.

Headglitching a area till someone walks in isnt skillfull nor fun.

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Siege used to have dropshotting btw. It was infuriating to play against people who would abuse it and Ubisoft eventually successfully patched it out (unlike Clash glitches that get her disabled like every season lmao)

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AvantgardeAClue posted...

If you take out any sort of movement advantage people could have up close like dropshotting, itll just be a numbers game

It's not an advantage.

It's a pussy tactic because they don't have the skill to get the kill without doing it.

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Alpha218 posted...

Siege used to have dropshotting btw. It was infuriating to play against people who would abuse it and Ubisoft eventually successfully patched it out (unlike Clash glitches that get her disabled like every season lmao)

im aware of that, been playing since beta, but they patch it out. The only dumb movement exploit right now is crouch spamming. They patched it out and then they brought it back. No idea why.

but its not incredibly effective

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sktgamer_13dude posted...

It's not an advantage.

It's a pussy tactic because they don't have the skill to get the kill without doing it.

So you expect people to stay put and hope their gun shoots slower than yours?

Insert shoot first, die first excuse here

gna647 posted...

well siege just proves that wrong

Siege gunplay isnt that engaging, honestly

ACOG and high ROF meta everywhere. Thats probably why Ubisoft keeps removing ACOGs and kicking the recoil on their high-ROF SMGs to the point where you cant really aim properly with them anymore

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Scorsese2002 posted...

That's why you play TLOU: Factions for some real fun/challenge

Ah, a man of culture

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AvantgardeAClue posted...

So you expect people to stay put and hope their gun shoots slower than yours?

Insert shoot first, die first excuse here

Yeah, just because people want drop shotting to be taken out, that everyone HAS to be motionless while shooting.

Because as we all know, you can only move on the Z-axis while shooting and not on the X- or Y-axis.

Or maybe, just maybe, we don't cater to those with lower skills and "even the playing field!" with bullshit like dropshotting.

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Is he one of those garbage ass players that can't get a kill without instantly going prone any time he sees an enemy

I remember some kill cams where a dude would kill me from behind and he'd still drop shot. Looked fucking stupid lol

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DuranOfForcena posted...

which shootan gaem is this even about

call of duty

the easiest shittiest fps on the market

Lol dropshotting is barely an issue in WZ. Plus, it's at least realistic to drop prone when taking incoming fire. They could probably tweak the initial aim instability a bit, but considering so much combat in WZ is midranged the dropshot isn't some major exploit. Also, the inherent stability bonus for most guns for being rpone is MUCH lower in this game compared to past CODs unless you use a bipod attachment. Consistently placing high in WZ usually comes down to:

1. Having a good headset. Kind of lame that it's almost a necessity, but it really does make it a more immersive experience so at least the tradeoff is fair.

2. Having good ADS gunplay. Obvious.

3. Making sound tactical decisions at every moment, especially when playing with teammates. I can't tell you the number of times me and my buddies have gotten easy team wipes just by using basic suppression and flanking tactics.

4. Excellent awareness.

Once you get to the final circle your awareness and gunplay become even more crucial as things start getting spicy and chaotic.

The bunny-hopping is stupid though. I don't even know if it's optimal most of the time since the ADS accuracy and recoil stability for most guns is great, but I do know it looks and feels awful. If you're concerned about it, the best way to counter it in WZ is just create distance when engaging in gun fights. Bunnyhopping is useless outside of close-range, so disengage and get a good overwatch position when applicable. Or setup good ambushes.

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AvantgardeAClue posted...

This hasn't been true since like November lol

I haven't seen 725 spam in months

The 725 plagued that game for months lol
Ill admit I stopped playing the normal multiplayer modes around November tho because of it. I just hop on every now and then and play Gunfight lol


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Peekers advantage exists in all shooters including siege.

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Pogo_Marimo posted...

1. Having a good headset. Kind of lame that it's almost a necessity, but it really does make it a more immersive experience so at least the tradeoff is fair.

Having a good headset doesn't matter when footsteps in that game are fucking horrific.

Pogo_Marimo posted...

4. Excellent awareness.

Yeah that knocks out one of my friend's co-workers we play with. The guy constantly goes off by himself to loot or to grab a contract that isn't worth it. The guy is also only obsessed with Recon contracts and he always has to point out the closest ones to go do. It's like "dude, everyone now knows about the Recon strat, that doesn't work" but he continues to do it anyway.

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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Having a good headset doesn't matter when footsteps in that game are fucking horrific.

I believe he's referring more to the need of constant communication rather than footsteps.

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geshkigal posted...

I believe he's referring more to the need of constant communication rather than footsteps.

Both.

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geshkigal posted...

I believe he's referring more to the need of constant communication rather than footsteps.

I mean, communication won't really matter when you can't tell where people are and you hear shots going off halfway across the map.

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