Current Events > I can maybe understand hating Korra season 2, but why hate for season 4? Spoiler

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"The Great Uniter" is an amazing bit of propaganda and I felt like they could have done more with kuvira. Why is there dislike for this season?

Heck, I didn't even dislike book 2 when I first watched it anymore than I did book 1 (for the whole nonsense teen romance subplots of both) and only saw it in a different light after starting book 3, which is so much better. But it's not that I think book 2 is bad, only that book 3 is so much more fun to watch. But theres no denying book 2 has the best 2 parter in the entire series, the first avatar.

That all being said, it's even weirder to me that season 4 is hated. It felt like the culmination of all 3 seasons and certainly the direction the earth kingdom was heading after the fall of the queen.

I was kind of confused until the giant mecha suit walked into frame. I kind of understood it then.

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I mean... I guess? Season 2 also had a giant kaiju monster as a final battle funnily enough.

Mecha suits were already a thing so a giant one doesn't seem too out of the question, just like how sato basically invented airplanes for the sole purpose of Amon's revolution.

Plus it makes sense that she was conquering all those cities and stealing their platinum (along with other resources) to make a suit.

I don't know how else the writers could have done a final battle, or what else they could have done besides giving kuvira her own the iron giant.

But its not a book, its a TV show.

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Oh, it makes sense, it's just not what you watch Korra for. I personally enjoyed it, but even I rolled my eyes a little when it first showed up.

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It wasn't the best... But when I first started watching Korra some posts were saying to avoid season 2 and 4 like the plague and the hate for 4 is disproportionate.

Kuvira sucked. It's that simple.

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Season 3 was too good. If 4 was first it probably wouldn't get as much hate

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dave_is_slick posted...

Kuvira sucked. It's that simple.

Um what. Why.

I don't think people hated it. It's just Kuvira wasn't fully realized, and it didn't help Zaheer was the s3 villain and overall best villain.

I personally still liked her, and I got over the mecha shit real quick

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Amenadeel posted...

Um what. Why.

I literally don't remember a single thing about her.

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4 wasn't bad, but I dunno. Not a fan of giant mech suits and shit.

I didn't hate Korra but it lacked any of the charm and magic of avatar.

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If Korra didn't have such short episodes, they could have devoted a lot of time to a lot of things. Hell, I'm reading the art of the animated series and apparently the writers wanted to establish that Asami was the one who designed the airbender suits, which could have been an entire episode.

And baatar jr's relationship with his parents and how he ends up witb kuvira could also have been an episode, maybe a flashback episode.

There's a lot of things unexplored that I'm sure the creators really wanted to do but under the circumstances and how Nickelodeon really seems to screw them over, they did the best they could.

Legend of Korra, on the whole, gets way too much hate.

And Id say that 99% of the time, its from people who dont like simply because its not Avatar.

Avatar is a fantastic show, but there are a ton of people out there who have this weird zealot-ish cult-like love of it. I guess Im lucky in that I never watched Avatar until months before Legend of Korra premiered because I was essentially able to watch LoK as season 4 of Avatar.

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I wasn't aware that the giant mecha-suit was so ill-received, but I guess I'm not surprised; I love the show, but even I was pretty 'meh' over it.

I think it might have been better received if it had a more elaborate and intimidating design, something more in line with the steampunk motif of the preexisting mecha-tanks. It reeked of the notorious budget cuts that plagued Book 4.

A floating fortress might have been a good alternative to carry the spirit cannon, but honestly this would have been too much of a retread of TLA's airships, in terms of a game-changer for the enemy forces.

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dave_is_slick posted...

I literally don't remember a single thing about her.

maybe you just forgot to take your brain medicine.

Honestly, I was just kind of tired of Korra herself just wasn't very entertaining in season 4. They were going for a tortured and broken Korra plot but that doesn't mean you can allow her plot to be boring or un-engaging.

This isn't me wanting things to be bright, colorful and action packed all the time. Mad Men is one of my favorite shows ever. I really enjoy watching broken people be miserable. But you need a good plot for it.

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Kuvira was a one note character, which would be fine if she had a supporting cast to have some interrelated backstories with; if she can't be interesting herself, she can be why other people are interesting. Ozai was pretty simple, but he's the reason for why following the rest of the royal family is so great. Kuvira's just a bully til she isn't. Korra has great character designs and some fun ideas, but it doesn't pay respect to character dynamics, or even really care to expain why things happen as related to the power system. The Giant Spirit fight was stupid because it was just out of nowhere; why is that possible, what is the pretense, how is it mechanically related to what the show has taught us so far?

Korra is the writers throwing things in because they look or sound cool, not because they make sense. Great aesthetic, bad writing.

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My friends and I had our own ideas of how the rest of the seasons or "books" should have gone after season 1.

The only drastic change was season 4.

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Kuvira was just boring and pointless. They had to use plot contrivances just to make her a threat, because Korra would have beaten the shit out of her any other day. I hate when characters are made weaker in stories just for the purpose of propping up an otherwise mediocre opponent. I would much prefer that the villains in seasons 2 and 4 had been switched (with whatever story changes would be necessary) considering the villain for season 2 is THE ultimate threat to the avatar.

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Season 4 should have just been about Korra trying to reconnect with the past avatars and figuring out how to deal with a newly born dark avatar.

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Korra S1+S2 were garbage but S3+S4 were amazeballs

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the show has interesting ideas but it handles them poorly for the most part

to use one example, I feel like it could have been more critical of Korra starting a goddamn civil war and turning to her war profiteer best friend to resolve it

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averagejoel posted...

the show has interesting ideas but it handles them poorly for the most part

to use one example, I feel like it could have been more critical of Korra starting a goddamn civil war and turning to her war profiteer best friend to resolve it

The show has always been on korra's side, Korra always seems to know better than the adults and her rashness was the right choice to handle situations. I'm not sure how to feel about that but it is what it is.

Turbam posted...

Season 3 was too good. If 4 was first it probably wouldn't get as much hate

Season 4 was fine. The beginning did give the side characters more importance before Korra was able to face her PTSD.

Season 3>Season 4 = Season 1>Season 2.

I won't complain about airbenders coming back in season 2.

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Pitbuller_26 posted...

I won't complain about airbenders coming back in season 2.

Worst story decision after 100% moving away from the Equalists

Last battle was Attack on Titan.

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Amenadeel posted...

The show has always been on korra's side, Korra always seems to know better than the adults and her rashness was the right choice to handle situations. I'm not sure how to feel about that but it is what it is.

I know that it's always been on her side. I'm saying that it didn't have to be.

the show just generally has really bad politics

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I don't really understand the sentiment that the show treats Korra as right. Her being rash and fucking up because of it is a very consistent theme.

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pegusus123456 posted...

I don't really understand the sentiment that the show treats Korra as right. Her being rash and fucking up because of it is a very consistent theme.

She never acutally faces any true consequences for it and on top of that they always treat it like it was the right thing to do at the end of the day.

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dave_is_slick posted...

She never acutally faces any true consequences for it and on top of that they always treat it like it was the right thing to do at the end of the day.

and when it seems like she finally did at the end of book 3 then comes book 4 and oh look she's just fine.

Hot take: She should have stayed a cripple.

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Banana_Cyanide posted...

and when it seems like she finally did at the end of book 3 then comes book 4 and oh look she's just fine.

Hot take: She should have stayed a cripple.

That would have actually been pretty cool. Out of all these Avatars, surely there had to be some who weren't actually needed or had something happen to them.

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It would have been to see Korra learn how to bend without the use of her legs.

So many missed opportunities with that show.

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I haven't seen all of S4 but I saw a bit of Kuvira and there didnt seem to be anything overtly interesting, unique or over the top about her, not in character, combat, design, anything. As a protagonist if I judged everything about her 1-10.....she'd be 5 or less across the board.


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Another problem with LoK is that every season had to have a villain. Sure it made sense for the first 3 but honestly season 4 didn't need a villain.

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Prismsblade posted...

I haven't seen all of S4 but I saw a bit of Kuvira and there didnt seem to be anything overtly interesting, unique or over the top about her, not in character, combat, design, anything. As a protagonist if I judged everything about her 1-10.....she'd be 5 or less across the board.

To be fair, who was ever gonna top the Red Lotus? All 4 of them were either cool and/or interesting.

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Banana_Cyanide posted...

and when it seems like she finally did at the end of book 3 then comes book 4 and oh look she's just fine.

Literally half the season was about how she's not fine. I mean, Aang found out about the genocide of his people and was gleefully riding the unagi an episode later.

I see this complaint a lot and I just don't find it grounded in reality. She absolutely suffers consequences from her actions.

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pegusus123456 posted...

Literally half the season was about how she's not fine. I mean, Aang found out about the genocide of his people and was gleefully riding the unagi an episode later.

I see this complaint a lot and I just don't find it grounded in reality. She absolutely suffers consequences from her actions.

Not a valid comparison. That was not only the first Book, when the writers were still finding the show's identity, Aang actually had a pressing issue to deal with as a woefully under trained Avatar constantly on the run from someone hunting him.

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dave_is_slick posted...

That was not only the first Book, when the writers were still finding the show's identity,

Oh, maybe I should have mentioned the beginning of season three where a bunch of horrible shit happened to him and then he leads a dance party at a Fire Nation school in the next episode. The end of TLA's second season and the end of LOK's third season both end up with the Avatar in very similar circumstances, but only the latter spends a significant amount of time on the Avatar dealing with it. But LOK's the one that doesn't have Korra face real consequences?

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Gheb posted...

Honestly, I was just kind of tired of Korra herself just wasn't very entertaining in season 4. They were going for a tortured and broken Korra plot but that doesn't mean you can allow her plot to be boring or un-engaging.

This isn't me wanting things to be bright, colorful and action packed all the time. Mad Men is one of my favorite shows ever. I really enjoy watching broken people be miserable. But you need a good plot for it.

But Korra....did have good character development?

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Perascamin posted...

But Korra....did have good character development?

Why is this a question

I would have preferred the PTSD angle going on longer for example in the comics, but it never seems to go there which is also understandable considering the size of them. Maybe for the next one.

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Perascamin posted...

But Korra....did have good character development?

Character development and character drama are two different things. Korra's development was fine but the stories to get her there come with a opportunity cost. Dedicating several episodes to Korra being kinda broken and beat down meant that a show that is ultimately a flashy action show was going to be less of a flashy action show. That meant the character drama needed to be not only good, but good enough to offset the showing going off-type and I don't think it did that..

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Korra had one episode dedicated to her. Korra Alone. After that, she bounced off Toph as well as plotlines from other characters taking the forefront.

Gheb posted...

Korra's development was fine but the stories to get her there come with a opportunity cost. Dedicating several episodes to Korra being kinda broken and beat down meant that a show that is ultimately a flashy action show was going to be less of a flashy action show.

What does this even mean?

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