Current Events > So there's a rumor that the MCU X-Men team will be...*SPOILERS?*

(+) Yeah! (+)

Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, Havok, Thunderbird, Sunfire and Nightcrawler.

Wolverine wouldn't be in the first movie, but will get a Disney+ series to properly introduce him.

I'm not mad at that lineup as the first iteration of the team to be honest. If this is all true, I doubt Thunderbird makes it past the first movie and I assume Sunfire might end up leaving the team by the end as well. That would leave us with a 5-man team going into the inevitable sequel, which leaves us with enough room for new additions like Wolverine, Beast, Rogue, Colossus, etc.,

The other thing I like about that roster: NO WOLVERINE. I love him, but this will finally allow the other mutants to get some shine.

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I assume Xavier will be in it?

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Tyranthraxus posted...

I assume Xavier will be in it?

Well of course lol

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maybe it's because of the other movies, but I'm tired of Jean Grey. there's always way too much focus on her character, and she's not even that interesting, IMO.

I'd rather see Rogue introduced early, especially with her connection to Captain Marvel.

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how are people still making TV shows/movies when social distancing and proper mask use is supposed to be enforced?
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Wolverine being introduced in Disney+ sounds too dumb for this to be true

Beveren_Rabbit posted...

how are people still making TV shows/movies when social distancing and proper mask use is supposed to be enforced?

the X-Men being in the MCU are still a ways away, iirc.

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Beveren_Rabbit posted...

how are people still making TV shows/movies when social distancing and proper mask use is supposed to be enforced?

Nobody's making anything. If any of this is true, it's probably just very early development stuff. I assume we still won't see this movie for at least another 3 years.

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DarthAragorn posted...

Wolverine being introduced in Disney+ sounds too dumb for this to be true

How? It's actually perfect.

It allows for them to actually treat the X-Men as an ensemble franchise and not just "Wolverine and Friends", while still satisfying the casual X-Men fan who's just going to be wondering where Wolverine is.

boxington posted...

I'd rather see Rogue introduced early, especially with her connection to Captain Marvel.

Rogue and Mystique as Captain Marvel 2 antagonists would be way too perfect.

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I need this

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DarthAragorn posted...

Wolverine being introduced in Disney+ sounds too dumb for this to be true

Yeah, any movie with wolverine in the MCU will top 1 bil...they aren't passing up that money
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No_U_L7 posted...

Yeah, any movie with wolverine in the MCU will top 1 bil...they aren't passing up that money

At this point, Marvel can top 1 bil with or without Wolverine.

Hell, even without Wolverine, MCU X-Men is going to top 1 bil regardless. Way too many people have been waiting for a proper MCU X-Men film. Unless they utterly botch the marketing, it's practically a gimme. Especially since it seems like after New Mutants, we won't be seeing any X-Men-related movies for a long time.

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At this point I almost expect them to turn Storm white just so they can justify turning Jean Grey black.

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A Wolverine solo show would be great. Characters like Sabretooth, Omega Red, and Silver Samurai could get more screen time with that.

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XxKrazyChaosxX posted...

A Wolverine solo show would be great. Characters like Sabretooth, Omega Red, and Silver Samurai could get more screen time with that.

Could also be a roundabout way to bring Deadpool into the fold too.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

At this point, Marvel can top 1 bil with or without Wolverine.

Hell, even without Wolverine, MCU X-Men is going to top 1 bil regardless. Way too many people have been waiting for a proper MCU X-Men film. Unless they utterly botch the marketing, it's practically a gimme. Especially since it seems like after New Mutants, we won't be seeing any X-Men-related movies for a long time.

Think about your logic there

They have an easy billion and something that can possibly break records with wolverine

They have something that else that is likely to make a billion

Hint: its not an either or proposition. Why would they ever pass up the guaranteed money from wolverine to put him on D+? List one scenario/reason they would do that
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No_U_L7 posted...

Think about your logic there

They have an easy billion and something that can possibly break records with wolverine

They have something that else that is likely to make a billion

Hint: its not an either or proposition. Why would they ever pass up the guaranteed money from wolverine to put him on D+? List one scenario/reason they would do that

Because in case you haven't noticed, the secret behind the MCU's success hasn't been how many A-listers they can cram into a movie, but rather their commitment and dedication to world-building and character-driven narratives. A slow build for massive payout.

It's the reason why more people turned out for a solo Thor movie than they did for the first live-action Justice League movie ever.

X-Men is also a pretty difficult franchise to work with when it comes to movies because despite it being an ensemble book, the Fox movies have led everyone to believe that the entire thing revolves around Wolverine and that if he isn't present, it's not worth watching. If Marvel Studios doesn't want to see the same diminishing returns, they need to set a proper foundation for the other X-Men.

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Awesker002 posted...

At this point I almost expect them to turn Storm white just so they can justify turning Jean Grey black.

They could even change her name to Shitstorm. Genius!

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Beveren_Rabbit posted...

how are people still making TV shows/movies when social distancing and proper mask use is supposed to be enforced?

the act of filming only takes about 3-4 months at most for something like a 2-3 year movie in active development.

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Sunfire is kind of strange. And it's not like The Gifted pulled in great ratings despite Thunderbird being a main character.

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Havok, Thunderbird, Sunfire - these names just don't sound like they're going to sell. Havok might catch on, but not sure why introducing random (to the general audience) generic heroes is the best idea unless they plan to kill them off or use them as heavy plot devices

if jean grey appeared as marvel girl i'd be ok with it. i like the lack of wolverine, but not too sure about the lack of beast and iceman.

i'd be ok with them somehow making the fantastic four come from the xmen, like they were team members that broke off or something. that'd be a neat way to introduce both.


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Is Xavier still gonna be a holocaust survivor or have they made a different back story?

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I'm also completely done with Jean Grey.

I really liked First Class and would enjoy a series in mostly young inexperienced X Men.

Bring all the Summers brothers together and bring back Toad.

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I don't think they'd introduce Wolverine in a TV show. Wolverine's next on screen appearance is going to be a big fucking deal and they're gonna capitalize on it.
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Jabodie posted...

Is Xavier still gonna be a holocaust survivor or have they made a different back story?

Still?

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BeyondWalls posted...

Still?

Hmm, I thought he was from the movies but I guess I don't know. I thought he and Magneto were Holocaust survivors.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Nobody's making anything.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/may/31/the-batman-among -movies-given-go-ahead-for-restart-of-uk-filming

remove the space between among and -movies because allen lives in the 1980s and seo friendly links are the devil to him.

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I like the lineup but still, I don't know how many quotes I can put around the word rumor here.

BeyondWalls posted...

Sunfire is kind of strange. And it's not like The Gifted pulled in great ratings despite Thunderbird being a main character.

Those seem to be creative decisions.

This team is largely based off of Giant-Size X-Men with a few changes (no Banshee, Colossus or Wolverine, with Jean Grey and Havok taking their place).

Jean Grey is there because she kinda has to be there. She's Cyclops' primary love interest, one of the founding members and the centerpiece of what's likely the most iconic X-Men storyline of all time. It'd be kind of odd for her to miss out on the first MCU X-Men movie, especially if they plan on doing the Dark Phoenix storyline.

I'm 99% sure Thunderbird is here to be killed off somewhere around or after the midway point and add dramatic weight to whatever story they end up doing.

As for Sunfire, they can do a lot with him due to his crossover appeal (he's one of only a handful of notable X-Men to have also served on the Avengers). Ironically, he's also not much of a team-player and can add that Cyclops/Wolverine dynamic to the team without needing to add in Wolverine. Also, he's a prominent Asian superhero, so there's that.

Havok is the really interesting one here because I honestly have no clue what they'll do with him.

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Is there a source for this or wut

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Jabodie posted...

Hmm, I thought he was from the movies but I guess I don't know. I thought he and Magneto were Holocaust survivors.

Magneto is, but Professor X wasn't.

I think the 90s cartoon might have combined their backstories, but they never mentioned the Holocaust explicitly (for obvious reasons).

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PatrickMahomes posted...

Is there a source for this or wut

https://fandomwire.com/mcus-x-men-lineup-possibly-revealed/

https://movieweb.com/x-men-team-characters-mcu-marvel-movie/


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Smashingpmkns posted...

I don't think they'd introduce Wolverine in a TV show. Wolverine's next on screen appearance is going to be a big fucking deal and they're gonna capitalize on it.

It actually makes sense that they'd do it this way since Wolverine is one of the few high-profile X-Men to have had a solo appearance before joining the team.

Also, having the added context of his backstory will make his formal introduction to the team much more satisfying.

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Smashingpmkns posted...

I don't think they'd introduce Wolverine in a TV show. Wolverine's next on screen appearance is going to be a big fucking deal and they're gonna capitalize on it.

You're absolutely right. I pretty much expect a Wolverine solo pic before he joins the X-Men. We'll probably end up getting a Wolverine and the X-Men movie too, because they love to steal every possible title from the comics.

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Needs Iceman

burns112233 posted...

Needs Iceman

Iceman would definitely be cool (that wasn't intentional...).

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Because in case you haven't noticed, the secret behind the MCU's success hasn't been how many A-listers they can cram into a movie, but rather their commitment and dedication to world-building and character-driven narratives. A slow build for massive payout.

It's the reason why more people turned out for a solo Thor movie than they did for the first live-action Justice League movie ever.

X-Men is also a pretty difficult franchise to work with when it comes to movies because despite it being an ensemble book, the Fox movies have led everyone to believe that the entire thing revolves around Wolverine and that if he isn't present, it's not worth watching. If Marvel Studios doesn't want to see the same diminishing returns, they need to set a proper foundation for the other X-Men.

Sounds like they'll just do a wolverine solo movie then....because there's no way they will forfeit the free massive box office. Seriously, explain to me how putting D+ is a remotely good business decision? Note that I didn't say creative decision
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No_U_L7 posted...

Sounds like they'll just do a wolverine solo movie then....because there's no way they will forfeit the free massive box office. Seriously, explain to me how putting D+ is a remotely good business decision? Note that I didn't say creative decision

But the creative decision is what matters here.

They can do things in a television format that they can't do in a 2 hour movie.

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needs gambit
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

But the creative decision is what matters here.

They can do things in a television format that they can't do in a 2 hour movie.

LMAO, ok you're just naive then. Disney is a business company first and foremost with the fiduciary duty to their stakeholders to maximize profits and that will drive all their creative decisions.
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No_U_L7 posted...

LMAO, ok you're just naive then. Disney is a business company first and foremost with the fiduciary duty to their stakeholders to maximize profits and that will drive all their creative decisions.

Yes, and Marvel Studios' smart creative decisions are why they're the top dog in the movie industry while everyone else's cinematic universe is either stuck in limbo or canned altogether.

In case you forgot, they didn't have any access to any of their heavy-hitters until Civil War came out yet they were already a multi-billion dollar franchise.

BTW, Disney has largely let Marvel Studios' operate how they see fit due to their successful track record.

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https://youtu.be/hzc5VHL1bPM

we gonna get this jean

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Yes, and Marvel Studios' smart creative decisions are why they're the top dog in the movie industry while everyone else's cinematic universe is either stuck in limbo or canned altogether.

In case you forgot, they didn't have any access to any of their heavy-hitters until Civil War came out yet they were already a multi-billion dollar franchise.

BTW, Disney has largely let Marvel Studios' operate how they see fit due to their successful track record.

1. they were forced to be extra creative...doesn't mean they wouldn't take the easy route when they can

2. marvel studios is still a business company

you're just missing the entire point

1. do they make more money using wolverine on disney +
or 2. do they make more money releasing a wolverine movie?

they will choose whatever answer gives them the most money, it's naive to think otherwise
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^The thing is, they're not shortsighted. Disney+ is also a product that they're trying to sell which can potentially make more money than a single movie due to it's accessibility. Using creative decisions, like synergizing the movies and TV shows, builds an even bigger audience that will then buy into the bigger picture, getting them even more money. I think Disney has shown well enough that they aren't some caricature big business willing to burn bridges just to make a quick buck. They take creative risks in order to secure higher profits.

Where the fuck is Shadow Cat and Colossus?

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specialkid8 posted...

^The thing is, they're not shortsighted. Disney+ is also a product that they're trying to sell which can potentially make more money than a single movie due to it's accessibility. Using creative decisions, like synergizing the movies and TV shows, builds an even bigger audience that will then buy into the bigger picture, getting them even more money. I think Disney has shown well enough that they aren't some caricature big business willing to burn bridges just to make a quick buck. They take creative risks in order to secure higher profits.

i agree....but you're underestimating how big of a draw a wolverine MCU movie would be. look at all of the properties they made D+ shows for....none of those are really that marketable as movies (maybe loki?). Wolverine is a guaranteed 1 bil...but maybe he can make 1.5 bil. In the right scenario, can wolverine be the 5th highest grossing movie of all time? absolutely
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SpaceBear_ posted...

I'm also completely done with Jean Grey.

I really liked First Class and would enjoy a series in mostly young inexperienced X Men.

Bring all the Summers brothers together and bring back Toad.

Dont bring back toad he sucks.


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Honestly I wish they would just let me help write this. Ive got a lot of great ideas for these characters that would take the team in an interesting and modern direction.

Bleuets posted...

Honestly I wish they would just let me help write this. Ive got a lot of great ideas for these characters that would take the team in an interesting and modern direction.

post them
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