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Cotton_Eye_Joe
06/06/20 5:35:42 PM
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it's like smashing a bees nest, now these freaks are out in the wild with no platform to contain their vitriole!

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CreepySmile
06/06/20 5:36:46 PM
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they have back ups anyway

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SSJKirby
06/06/20 5:37:14 PM
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again?

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06/06/20 5:37:46 PM
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Zikten
06/06/20 5:40:57 PM
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I really am pissed off how the incel term got taken over and hijacked into a hate movement. did you know the person who invented the term was a female incel? apparently she is horrified at what happened to her coined term. they need to make a new term to differentiate between the normal virgins and the assholes
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Gamerguymass
06/06/20 5:51:31 PM
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Zikten posted...
I really am pissed off how the incel term got taken over and hijacked into a hate movement. did you know the person who invented the term was a female incel? apparently she is horrified at what happened to her coined term. they need to make a new term to differentiate between the normal virgins and the assholes

This is what the media and SJWs do. The same thing happened with GamerGate. It was originally about journalists being in bed with developers, both figuratively and literally, but then the media made it all about a couple of idiots saying stupid shit and giving air time to The Attention Whore.

The same thing happens with the word Nazi these days. Anyone slightly racist gets called a Nazi even though the Nazis were far far worse then your garden variety white supremacists. Considering both my grandfathers fought in WWII it is honestly offensive to see the word tossed about so casually. Especially considering the fact almost all white people would be second class citizens had the actual Nazis won until enough "Aryans" could be bred to then either enslave the other whites or just exterminate them like everyone else.

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Mezcla
06/06/20 5:53:05 PM
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sorry you lost your home, TC.

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rexcrk
06/06/20 6:12:35 PM
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Zikten posted...
I really am pissed off how the incel term got taken over and hijacked into a hate movement. did you know the person who invented the term was a female incel? apparently she is horrified at what happened to her coined term. they need to make a new term to differentiate between the normal virgins and the assholes
This lol. There needs to be some way to differentiate between incels and incels.

Like, I kind of consider myself an incel because Im celibate and its not exactly voluntary... but I dont sit around seething like women are such horrible people. Im gonna kill the next one who ignores me!

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CommunismFTW
06/06/20 6:16:10 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
they need to make a new term to differentiate between the normal virgins and the assholes

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Odoylerules
06/06/20 6:16:56 PM
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why do you need a board for your virgin-ness?
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Prismsblade
06/06/20 6:20:37 PM
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The original MGTOW reddit was also shutdown.

Similar to the incel reddit and community's in general they tend to attract the black pills that drown out the reasonable people and like a negative black hole that sucks everything positive they represent into a deep dark abyss never to be seen again.

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joe40001
06/06/20 6:22:12 PM
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I'm sick of mobs destroying everything. You take the bad elements of any group, define the entire group by the bad elements, and then destroy the group.

It's a mess and not helpful.

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DeathDeathSong
06/06/20 6:22:20 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
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joe40001
06/06/20 6:23:04 PM
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Zikten posted...
I really am pissed off how the incel term got taken over and hijacked into a hate movement. did you know the person who invented the term was a female incel? apparently she is horrified at what happened to her coined term. they need to make a new term to differentiate between the normal virgins and the assholes

Gamerguymass posted...
This is what the media and SJWs do. The same thing happened with GamerGate. It was originally about journalists being in bed with developers, both figuratively and literally, but then the media made it all about a couple of idiots saying stupid shit and giving air time to The Attention Whore.

The same thing happens with the word Nazi these days. Anyone slightly racist gets called a Nazi even though the Nazis were far far worse then your garden variety white supremacists. Considering both my grandfathers fought in WWII it is honestly offensive to see the word tossed about so casually. Especially considering the fact almost all white people would be second class citizens had the actual Nazis won until enough "Aryans" could be bred to then either enslave the other whites or just exterminate them like everyone else.

these

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evil_zombie11
06/06/20 6:25:43 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
This is what the media and SJWs do. The same thing happened with GamerGate. It was originally about journalists being in bed with developers, both figuratively and literally, but then the media made it all about a couple of idiots saying stupid shit and giving air time to The Attention Whore.

The same thing happens with the word Nazi these days. Anyone slightly racist gets called a Nazi even though the Nazis were far far worse then your garden variety white supremacists. Considering both my grandfathers fought in WWII it is honestly offensive to see the word tossed about so casually. Especially considering the fact almost all white people would be second class citizens had the actual Nazis won until enough "Aryans" could be bred to then either enslave the other whites or just exterminate them like everyone else.

Actual Nazis would make white nationalists look like teletubbies, and they would exterminate most of those said nationalists too.

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Tmaster148
06/06/20 6:30:06 PM
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There's no reason to have a term for normal people who are virgins. Any normal person has no reason to care about some label to justify their situation.

I just don't get the people who really want to label themselves as incels.

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joe40001
06/06/20 6:37:56 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
There's no reason to have a term for normal people who are virgins. Any normal person has no reason to care about some label to justify their situation.

I just don't get the people who really want to label themselves as incels.

Going a long time without a relationship messes with your mind. At it's best the incel community was a support group for chronically lonely people.

It didn't help the brand that it seemed to be framed around sex, but as a brand it's hard to define otherwise. "People who've never had a serious relationship"? "Foreveralones"? Incel is close enough that it captured some of what was going on.

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SapphireClassic
06/06/20 6:39:56 PM
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Do you frequent that sub often?

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Tmaster148
06/06/20 6:40:20 PM
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joe40001 posted...
Going a long time without a relationship messes with your mind. At it's best the incel community was a support group for chronically lonely people.

It didn't help the brand that it seemed to be framed around sex, but as a brand it's hard to define otherwise. "People who've never had a serious relationship"? "Foreveralones"? Incel is close enough that it captured some of what was going on.

Incels are people who want to blame other people for why they have been unable to get sex. If that's the label you want to associate with you be my guest. But it's pretty telling the people who want an excuse for why they are not satsify with their life.

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Gamerguymass
06/06/20 6:45:09 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Incels are people who want to blame other people for why they have been unable to get sex. If that's the label you want to associate with you be my guest. But it's pretty telling the people who want an excuse for why they are not satsify with their life.

Congratulations on not reading the topic and being part of the problem.

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Tmaster148
06/06/20 6:46:03 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Congratulations on not reading the topic and being part of the problem.

I'm not going to feel sorry that a bunch of toxic people who don't know how to function normally are losing their subreddit for being toxic idiots.

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SH_expert44
06/06/20 6:46:46 PM
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joe40001
06/06/20 6:50:39 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Incels are people who want to blame other people for why they have been unable to get sex. If that's the label you want to associate with you be my guest. But it's pretty telling the people who want an excuse for why they are not satsify with their life.

That's the strawman of what an incel is.

Incel by definition is somebody who wants sex/relationship but has never had one. Often times it's a result of them doing what they think society rules as "what you should do", and society often encourages young men to be nearly infinitely passive. And as a result these people never get relationships, whereas guys who care less if they are too aggressive often will succeed.

A whole generation of men was coached by society to be infinitely deferential to women and then also taught their lack of sexual or romantic success meant they were garbage people. So you grew a community of people trying to do the right thing and being called garbage for it.

The fact that many turned bitter and were further ostracized and straw-manned just compounds the problem.

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Tmaster148
06/06/20 6:52:15 PM
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joe40001 posted...
Incel by definition is somebody who wants sex/relationship but has never had one.

And they blame the fact they haven't had one on everything else but themselves, hence the whole "involuntary" aspect of incel.

joe40001 posted...
The fact that many turned bitter and were further ostracized and straw-manned just compounds the problem.

They were already bitter as to be an incel you have to blame everyone else but yourself for your shortcomings.

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EndOfDiscOne
06/06/20 7:07:14 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
And they blame the fact they haven't had one on everything else but themselves, hence the whole "involuntary" aspect of incel.

They were already bitter as to be an incel you have to blame everyone else but yourself for your shortcomings.
Youre missing the point. These people know that they suck with women. But they also feel defeated and think that theres nothing more they can do to make themselves more desirable to women. Also, they know not to just sit around and blame themselves because thats unattractive too.

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Tmaster148
06/06/20 7:08:41 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Youre missing the point. These people know that they suck with women. But they also feel defeated and think that theres nothing more they can do to make themselves more desirable to women. Also, they know not to just sit around and blame themselves because thats unattractive too.

And banding together with other bitter individuals is not how you get help. Incels don't want help, they just want to bitch about how everything is so unfair to them.

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AzurexNightmare
06/06/20 7:09:45 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
This is what the media and SJWs do. The same thing happened with GamerGate. It was originally about journalists being in bed with developers, both figuratively and literally, but then the media made it all about a couple of idiots saying stupid shit and giving air time to The Attention Whore.

The same thing happens with the word Nazi these days. Anyone slightly racist gets called a Nazi even though the Nazis were far far worse then your garden variety white supremacists. Considering both my grandfathers fought in WWII it is honestly offensive to see the word tossed about so casually. Especially considering the fact almost all white people would be second class citizens had the actual Nazis won until enough "Aryans" could be bred to then either enslave the other whites or just exterminate them like everyone else.
I'm not even gonna read all that diarrhea. If people like you would stop posting, we'd be better off.

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joe40001
06/06/20 7:48:01 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
And banding together with other bitter individuals is not how you get help. Incels don't want help, they just want to bitch about how everything is so unfair to them.

Actually banding together with other people with similar problems often works out well, just ask AA.

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cymbaline
06/06/20 7:50:19 PM
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About damn time.

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joe40001
06/06/20 7:50:42 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
And they blame the fact they haven't had one on everything else but themselves, hence the whole "involuntary" aspect of incel.

They were already bitter as to be an incel you have to blame everyone else but yourself for your shortcomings.

No involuntary means they didn't choose it.

You can involuntarily lose random games of chance without blaming others.

Incel doesn't mean "blaming others". Or at least not uniquely, in some sense everybody's romantic success or failure is in the hands of others, and in other senses it is not.

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Cotton_Eye_Joe
06/06/20 7:51:20 PM
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joe40001 posted...
Actually banding together with other people with similar problems often works out well, just ask AA.
Well you need someone to moderate the group.

Just having a group of people with drinking problems would probably lead to disaster.

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DarthAragorn
06/06/20 7:52:11 PM
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joe40001 posted...
Actually banding together with other people with similar problems often works out well, just ask AA.
yeah except if you can't find a relationship

then you can just go fuck yourself apparently!
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Tmaster148
06/06/20 7:54:45 PM
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joe40001 posted...
No involuntary means they didn't choose it.

You can involuntarily lose random games of chance without blaming others.

Incel doesn't mean "blaming others". Or at least not uniquely, in some sense everybody's romantic success or failure is in the hands of others, and in other senses it is not.

Getting laid is something you easily have more control over than losing a game of chance. They aren't involuntary virigins, they are just bitter people refusing to do anything that would help make them more attractive and choose to blame the world.


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UnfairRepresent
06/06/20 7:56:39 PM
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Zikten posted...
did you know the person who invented the term was a female incel? apparently she is horrified at what happened to her coined term.

Did you know the person who designed Bayonetta was a female artist? Apparently she is horrified at the character being seen as sexist because she thought it was empowering for women.
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joe40001
06/06/20 7:57:08 PM
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Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...
Well you need someone to moderate the group.

Just having a group of people with drinking problems would probably lead to disaster.

Yeah, it's funny how just a few goals/objectives in the subreddit could've completely shifted the way the world treats and thinks of incels.

That said when you think of the community as a bunch of chronically lonely people looking for support I find it a lot more sympathetic. I think incels like many communities just got too defined internally and externally by their more toxic elements, which I think is a shame.

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joe40001
06/06/20 8:00:13 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Getting laid is something you easily have more control over than losing a game of chance. They aren't involuntary virigins, they are just bitter people refusing to do anything that would help make them more attractive and choose to blame the world.

I'm sure just about all of them did many things they felt they were supposed to do. The fact of the matter is that so long as somebody can reject you sexually at any time for any reason then you can never say a person can't be an incel.

Ultimately a person getting laid requires somebody else, and somebody else can always reject you.

It is a game of chance, you can help your odds, but ultimately it is not in your control.

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Solar_Crimson
06/06/20 8:02:53 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
This is what the media and SJWs do.
The media and SJWs didn't do this.

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DarthAragorn
06/06/20 8:03:30 PM
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joe40001 posted...
I'm sure just about all of them did many things they felt they were supposed to do. The fact of the matter is that so long as somebody can reject you sexually at any time for any reason then you can never say a person can't be an incel.

Ultimately a person getting laid requires somebody else, and somebody else can always reject you.

It is a game of chance, you can help your odds, but ultimately it is not in your control.
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joe40001
06/06/20 8:05:36 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
that's not true, you can illegally pay for prostitutes to fuck you once, if you're an incel you're just stupid!

Yeah I think for most discussions of incel we remove the element of prostitutes, which supports my argument that most incels are upset about lack of connection rather than lack of sex.

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Shadow20201
06/06/20 8:10:32 PM
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Wasn't an earlier version of incel called a Wizard? Or am I misremembering.

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Tmaster148
06/06/20 8:13:09 PM
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Shadow20201 posted...
Wasn't an earlier version of incel called a Wizard? Or am I misremembering.

Wizard is a joke that if you are a virgin at the age 30 you unlock Wizard powers.

Incels are bitter individuals who refuse to do anything and blame women for the fact they can't get laid.

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joe40001
06/06/20 8:13:44 PM
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Shadow20201 posted...
Wasn't an earlier version of incel called a Wizard? Or am I misremembering.

That was just if you reached a certain age without sex you were supposed to get wizard powers. It didn't matter if you chose to be that way or not. It was just a playful way to talk about getting older and not getting laid.

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joe40001
06/06/20 8:15:07 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Wizard is a joke that if you are a virgin at the age 30 you unlock Wizard powers.

Incels are bitter individuals who refuse to do anything and blame women for the fact they can't get laid.

I think that's a strawman characterization of incels.

I think just about every incel tried some form of doing "what you are supposed to do" type politeness that often gets them further mocked as a "nice guy". That effort, while somewhat misdirected, is still effort.

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hockeybub89
06/06/20 8:15:47 PM
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I don't know how someone could be an incel and not be a miserable jackass.

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Kaliesto
06/06/20 8:16:50 PM
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Idk why you all think that containing groups like this even works; all it does it perpuates the problem in the long term when they recruit more and more of those radical people, and eventually they end up doing something fucked up.

Giving them no platform creates a lack of a voice, and they can't easily spread their propaganda.

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Tmaster148
06/06/20 8:19:56 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I don't know how someone could be an incel and not be a miserable jackass.

Exactly. The kind of people who label themselves are incels are the kind of people who want to be defined as the guy who can't get laid.

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