Board 8 > VNs and CYAs

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redrocket 06/04/20 1:41:11 PM #1:	Are they games? They are both games. Visual Novels are games, but Choose Your Own Adventure books are not. Choose Your Own Adventure books are games, but Visual Novels are not. Neither are games. Are they games? - Results (3 votes) They are both games. 66.67% (2 votes) 2 Visual Novels are games, but Choose Your Own Adventure books are not. 33.33% (1 vote) 1 Choose Your Own Adventure books are games, but Visual Novels are not. 0% (0 votes) 0 Neither are games. 0% (0 votes) 0 I must know where the board stands. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:940176719] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote> Are they games? They are both games. Visual Novels are games, but Choose Your Own Adventure books are not. Choose Your Own Adventure books are games, but Visual Novels are not. Neither are games. Vote View Results Are they games? - Results (3 votes) They are both games. 66.67% (2 votes) 2 Visual Novels are games, but Choose Your Own Adventure books are not. 33.33% (1 vote) 1 Choose Your Own Adventure books are games, but Visual Novels are not. 0% (0 votes) 0 Neither are games. 0% (0 votes) 0 Show Voting Form I must know where the board stands. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 06/04/20 2:00:09 PM #2:	deja vu? --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. <cite>NFUN posted [p:940177694] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>deja vu? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeffreyRaze 06/04/20 2:05:51 PM #3:	Question for the VNs aren't games club, do you consider Candyland or Snakes and Ladders to be games? --- JeffRaze, for all your random spellcasting needs <cite>JeffreyRaze posted [p:940177959] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>Question for the VNs aren't games club, do you consider Candyland or Snakes and Ladders to be games? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 06/04/20 2:07:10 PM #4:	So are we just making this poll again whenever the one before it purges? --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:940178014] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>So are we just making this poll again whenever the one before it purges? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 06/04/20 2:08:37 PM #5:	choose your own adventure books might be games, but they aren't VIDEO games, cause they're books --- Congrats to azuarc for winning the GotD Guru! <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:940178099] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>choose your own adventure books might be games, but they aren't VIDEO games, cause they're books</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 06/04/20 2:12:38 PM #6:	Leonhart4 posted... So are we just making this poll again whenever the one before it purges? this one is setup explicitly to determine how many people hold a double standard with regards to VNs and CYAs. I dont recall any previous topics/polls that were specifically meant to do that --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:940178277] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>Leonhart4 posted... </cite> <quote>So are we just making this poll again whenever the one before it purges?</quote> this one is setup explicitly to determine how many people hold a double standard with regards to VNs and CYAs. I dont recall any previous topics/polls that were specifically meant to do that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 06/04/20 2:13:34 PM #7:	Hbthebattle posted... choose your own adventure books might be games, but they aren't VIDEO games, cause they're books I mean, nothing in this topic says anything about VIDEO games. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:940178338] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>Hbthebattle posted... </cite> <quote>choose your own adventure books might be games, but they aren't VIDEO games, cause they're books</quote> I mean, nothing in this topic says anything about VIDEO games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 06/04/20 2:14:14 PM #8:	redrocket posted... I mean, nothing in this topic says anything about VIDEO games. hence why I voted the both option! --- Congrats to azuarc for winning the GotD Guru! <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:940178368] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>redrocket posted...</cite> <quote> I mean, nothing in this topic says anything about VIDEO games. </quote> hence why I voted the both option!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 06/04/20 2:49:20 PM #9:	JeffreyRaze posted... Question for the VNs aren't games club, do you consider Candyland or Snakes and Ladders to be games? VNs have a spread of player interaction, from some that are a sort of point-and-click adventure to some that don't even have the illusion of letting you roll a die to fake agency. But at least Candy Land and Chutes & Ladders have human interaction. --- Congratulations to all the gurus, past and present, participating in the contest. Video Game Music Contest 14: Now in progress. Come join us! <cite>azuarc posted [p:940179981] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>JeffreyRaze posted... </cite> <quote>Question for the VNs aren't games club, do you consider Candyland or Snakes and Ladders to be games?</quote> VNs have a spread of player interaction, from some that are a sort of point-and-click adventure to some that don't even have the illusion of letting you roll a die to fake agency. But at least Candy Land and Chutes & Ladders have human interaction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 06/04/20 2:55:35 PM #10:	I would love to hear from anyone voting option 2 what their reasoning is. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:940180254] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>I would love to hear from anyone voting option 2 what their reasoning is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 06/04/20 3:12:44 PM #12:	metaIslug posted... A book is a book. Just cause you jump from page 5 to page 87 doesn't change that. You're just choosing the direction the book goes in. You're not interacting with it non-stop like a game I'm entertaining your question, but I don't feel that strongly one way or the other. The only thing I do feel strongly about is that VNs should not be in games contests ever. Poor Phoenix Wright/Life Is Strange/Danganronpa/The Walking Dead --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:940180985] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>metaIslug posted... </cite> <quote>A book is a book. Just cause you jump from page 5 to page 87 doesn't change that. You're just choosing the direction the book goes in. You're not interacting with it non-stop like a game I'm entertaining your question, but I don't feel that strongly one way or the other. The only thing I do feel strongly about is that VNs should not be in games contests ever.</quote> Poor Phoenix Wright/Life Is Strange/Danganronpa/The Walking Dead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 06/04/20 3:16:26 PM #13:	metaIslug posted... A book is a book. Just cause you jump from page 5 to page 87 doesn't change that. You're just choosing the direction the book goes in. You're not interacting with it non-stop like a game Puzzle games, for example, point-and-click games aren't games? --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. <cite>NFUN posted [p:940181149] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>metaIslug posted... </cite> <quote>A book is a book. Just cause you jump from page 5 to page 87 doesn't change that. You're just choosing the direction the book goes in. You're not interacting with it non-stop like a game</quote>Puzzle games, for example, point-and-click games aren't games? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 06/04/20 3:33:17 PM #15:	I was always under the impression that Umineko had interactivity. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:940181946] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>I was always under the impression that Umineko had interactivity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 06/04/20 3:36:05 PM #16:	HanOfTheNekos posted... I was always under the impression that Umineko had interactivity. Only episode 8 and only for one small section --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:940182079] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite> <quote>I was always under the impression that Umineko had interactivity.</quote> Only episode 8 and only for one small section </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 06/04/20 3:39:25 PM #18:	ah well, in a pure setting where a VN is just reading with pictures and you make absolutely no decisions, then i'd say a CYOA book is more of a game than a VN. But I would also classify something like Life is Strange as a VN and be done with caring, so --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:940182238] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>ah well, in a pure setting where a VN is just reading with pictures and you make absolutely no decisions, then i'd say a CYOA book is more of a game than a VN. But I would also classify something like Life is Strange as a VN and be done with caring, so </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 06/04/20 3:42:27 PM #19:	I feel like story-based puzzle games need to be considered their own thing separate from being lumped in with other visual novels. Something like Ace Attorney or Professor Layton is a different classification from Umineko. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:940182351] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>I feel like story-based puzzle games need to be considered their own thing separate from being lumped in with other visual novels. Something like Ace Attorney or Professor Layton is a different classification from Umineko. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 06/04/20 3:46:03 PM #20:	metaIslug posted... redrocket posted... I would love to hear from anyone voting option 2 what their reasoning is. A book is a book. Just cause you jump from page 5 to page 87 doesn't change that. You're just choosing the direction the book goes in. You're not interacting with it non-stop like a game The categories of books and games aren't mutually exclusive. CYOA is a game in that there are rules, and the reader/player makes decisions that change the outcome. --- rip imgcake <cite>KingButz posted [p:940182529] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>metaIslug posted...</cite> <quote>redrocket posted...</cite> <quote> I would love to hear from anyone voting option 2 what their reasoning is. </quote> A book is a book. Just cause you jump from page 5 to page 87 doesn't change that. You're just choosing the direction the book goes in. You're not interacting with it non-stop like a game </quote> The categories of books and games aren't mutually exclusive. CYOA is a game in that there are rules, and the reader/player makes decisions that change the outcome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 06/04/20 3:47:25 PM #21:	Leonhart4 posted... I feel like story-based puzzle games need to be considered their own thing separate from being lumped in with other visual novels. Something like Ace Attorney or Professor Layton is a different classification from Umineko. Would you consider the Telltale games to be closer to Umineko than Ace Attorney? --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:940182596] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>Leonhart4 posted... </cite> <quote>I feel like story-based puzzle games need to be considered their own thing separate from being lumped in with other visual novels. Something like Ace Attorney or Professor Layton is a different classification from Umineko.</quote> Would you consider the Telltale games to be closer to Umineko than Ace Attorney? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 06/04/20 3:50:48 PM #22:	HanOfTheNekos posted... Would you consider the Telltale games to be closer to Umineko than Ace Attorney? I don't really have any experience with them, so I can't say definitively. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:940182760] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite> <quote>Would you consider the Telltale games to be closer to Umineko than Ace Attorney?</quote> I don't really have any experience with them, so I can't say definitively. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_SecretSquirrel 06/04/20 3:52:28 PM #23:	If I bought it off of a video game platform like Steam, or are playing it on a video game console, it's a video game full stop. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! This line reserved for the true greatone, azuarc, winner of Game of the Decade! <cite>_SecretSquirrel posted [p:940182834] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>If I bought it off of a video game platform like Steam, or are playing it on a video game console, it's a video game full stop. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KCF0107 06/04/20 4:26:02 PM #24:	Steam doesn't sell just video games, and not everything that is played on a video game console is a video game. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu <cite>KCF0107 posted [p:940184315] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>Steam doesn't sell just video games, and not everything that is played on a video game console is a video game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pepper2012 06/04/20 4:39:30 PM #25:	Neither are games <cite>pepper2012 posted [p:940184997] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>Neither are games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GildedFool 06/04/20 8:47:28 PM #26:	VNs are video books. I don't see why people are okay with the idea of audio books but not video books. --- https://i.imgtc.com/tP0gkiQ.png <cite>GildedFool posted [p:940196310] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>VNs are video books. I don't see why people are okay with the idea of audio books but not video books. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 06/05/20 12:06:35 AM #27:	Bump --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:940204821] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>Bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_SecretSquirrel 06/05/20 5:07:55 AM #28:	GildedFool posted... VNs are video books. I don't see why people are okay with the idea of audio books but not video books. I thought movies (with subtitles?) were video books. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! This line reserved for the true greatone, azuarc, winner of Game of the Decade! <cite>_SecretSquirrel posted [p:940211815] in VNs and CY... [t:78745304]...</cite> <quote>GildedFool posted... </cite> <quote>VNs are video books. I don't see why people are okay with the idea of audio books but not video books.</quote>I thought movies (with subtitles?) were video books. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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