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LordRazziel
06/04/20 9:02:18 AM
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Did Chauvin know he was killing George Floyd


Before anyone brings up "beyond a reasonable doubt", this is a CE poll, not a court of law. Just go with your gut.

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cmiller4642
06/04/20 9:03:38 AM
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How the fuck do you put your knee on someone's neck with force for 8 minutes and expect not to kill him?

Either he did it on purpose or he's too stupid to realize what he's doing

Either way he doesn't need to be a police officer and needs to go to jail.
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MrMallard
06/04/20 9:04:48 AM
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cmiller4642 posted...
How the fuck do you put your knee on someone's neck with force for 8 minutes and expect not to kill him?

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ZevLoveDOOM
06/04/20 9:08:51 AM
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George was pleading for oxygen while Officer Pigshit just continued pressing his neck with that cold blank face as to indicate that he didnt care about his suffering.

even worse when you consider those muppets in uniform who just stood there.

if thats not intentional, then i dunno wtf that is...
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Funkydog
06/04/20 9:09:53 AM
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cmiller4642 posted...
How the fuck do you put your knee on someone's neck with force for 8 minutes and expect not to kill him?

Either he did it on purpose or he's too stupid to realize what he's doing

Either way he doesn't need to be a police officer and needs to go to jail.


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CableZL
06/04/20 9:10:45 AM
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People all around there were telling him that he was killing George Floyd. There's no way he didn't know what he was doing.

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Dyinglegacy
06/04/20 9:11:54 AM
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I think it's almost worst than him trying to kill him. I think he simply didn't care. Like, he just thought "meh" while the guy begged.

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ayane225
06/04/20 9:12:16 AM
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yes obviously
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Veggeta X
06/04/20 9:13:30 AM
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He prolly thought at worst George was just gonna pass out even still I think he should be punished as harshly as possible.

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Reverend_Wilson
06/04/20 9:14:33 AM
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"I can't breath"

That pig knew what he was doing. it was murder, plain and simple.

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monkmith
06/04/20 9:16:46 AM
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probably not, but i find it hard to imagine he didn't know that there was a potential because of what he was doing.

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Sunburst
06/04/20 9:22:35 AM
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I think he knew it was possible. Or at least he should have. But I don't think he thought it was likely. Because I can't imagine any cop wanting to go to prison.

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Giant_Aspirin
06/04/20 9:25:29 AM
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George Floyd was dead for three whole minutes before the cop removed his knee from the back of George's neck. Three. Whole. Minutes. That's 180 seconds of a man being lifeless. Tell me the cop didn't notice that.

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Giant_Aspirin
06/04/20 9:26:28 AM
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Sunburst posted...
I think he knew it was possible. Or at least he should have. But I don't think he thought it was likely. Because I can't imagine any cop wanting to go to prison.

he figured he'd just claim he feared for his life, like hundreds of others have done before him, and get off. plus with the support of DEM BOYS IN BLUE he thought he had nothing to fear.

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cmiller4642
06/04/20 9:28:48 AM
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I've actually witnessed an unruly person getting tased with force before. The man who the police tased went limp like a ragdoll. It absolutely floored him and he calmed down immediately afterwards.

You telling me if he was resisting arrest they couldn't have just popped him once with a taser, cuffed him, and put him back up on his feet?
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BeyondWalls
06/04/20 9:29:03 AM
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I dont think he did. Cops arent usually dumb enough to squeeze the life out of someone on the street while a camera is literally two feet from his face. I mean, Chauvin actually smiles for the camera. I think he just flat out didnt care that Floyd was in distress and that led to Floyds death. It was a casual disregard for human life, not a planned attack.

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Sunburst
06/04/20 9:29:51 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
George Floyd was dead for three whole minutes before the cop removed his knee from the back of George's neck. Three. Whole. Minutes. That's 180 seconds of a man being lifeless. Tell me the cop didn't notice that.
If true, that makes him sound more incompetent than I thought. I hope they tested that cop for drugs afterwards. He may have been high.

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The_Korey
06/04/20 9:31:49 AM
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Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Doesn't really matter. This man was kuffed AND in the back of a police kar, yet they still felt the need to beat him, drag him out and, and pin him down even beyond the point of being dead. Murder or no murder, this level of brutality needs to be punished. To top it off, SOME level of this shit was planned because the two had a history together.

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cmiller4642
06/04/20 9:33:04 AM
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The_Korey posted...
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Doesn't really matter. This man was kuffed AND in the back of a police kar, yet they still felt the need to beat him, drag him out and, and pin him down even beyond the point of being dead. Murder or no murder, this level of brutality needs to be punished. To top it off, SOME level of this shit was planned because the two had a history together.

Was he cuffed in the car beforehand?

Wow. It's over at that point. What's he going to do kick at them? They could easily tase or hit him once with their nightstick and call it a day at that point.
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ScazarMeltex
06/04/20 9:33:08 AM
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You don't kneel on someone's neck that long when they aren't even struggling without the intent to fucking kill them.

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monkmith
06/04/20 9:36:38 AM
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cmiller4642 posted...
I've actually witnessed an unruly person getting tased with force before. The man who the police tased went limp like a ragdoll. It absolutely floored him and he calmed down immediately afterwards.

You telling me if he was resisting arrest they couldn't have just popped him once with a taser, cuffed him, and put him back up on his feet?
tasers aren't perfect, and some people have a surprising resistance to them.

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DevsBro
06/04/20 9:36:53 AM
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I could have believed he didn't for the first little bit but once Floyd goes unresponsive there's no way he didn't know.

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BathroomWater
06/04/20 9:39:17 AM
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I mean sorry but if he didnt know he was killing him, hes simply not human. Like a psychopathic child you see in a movie or TV show who doesnt understand death or what kills living beings. So, regardless, he needs to be locked up for the sake of societys safety.

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Laserion
06/04/20 9:46:18 AM
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The_Korey posted...
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Doesn't really matter. This man was kuffed AND in the back of a police kar, yet they still felt the need to beat him, drag him out and, and pin him down even beyond the point of being dead. Murder or no murder, this level of brutality needs to be punished. To top it off, SOME level of this shit was planned because the two had a history together.

I had read that he was claustrophobic and refused to get in the car. So, according to the bolded part, they managed to get him in, only to drag him out again for shits and giggles?
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Laserion
06/04/20 9:47:55 AM
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BathroomWater posted...
I mean sorry but if he didnt know he was killing him, hes simply not human. Like a psychopathic child you see in a movie or TV show who doesnt understand death or what kills living beings. So, regardless, he needs to be locked up for the sake of societys safety.
Like Johnny 5 when he killed that grasshopper? "Reasemble!"
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Mecha Sonic
06/04/20 9:57:26 AM
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I don't think he knew he was killing George Floyd but he had definitely a deliberate intent to cause body harm to him.

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The_Korey
06/04/20 11:02:01 AM
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Laserion posted...
I had read that he was claustrophobic and refused to get in the car. So, according to the bolded part, they managed to get him in, only to drag him out again for shits and giggles?

The vid I saw didn't give any kontext, but yes, it did konfirm they at least got him in the kar. It didn't show how/why the struggle started or them taking him back out.

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De Evolution
06/04/20 11:04:23 AM
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Yes.

At the very LEAST he knew he was torturing him.

There's just zero sane reason, explanation, or justification to doing that to someone who was ALREADY IN CUSTODY.

Dude was cuffed, in the back of the cop car, and they took him out of the car while still in cuffs just to abuse him.

Hope the cops who did it hang.

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Alpha218
06/04/20 11:05:13 AM
#29:


One of the officers there questioned him twice about the position he had Floyd in (said officer was not that long out of the academy so the training was fresh in his mind)

Chauvin continued to press his knee on the victims neck for 8 minutes 48 seconds

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Musourenka
06/04/20 11:05:55 AM
#30:


Chauvin kept his knee on Floyd three minutes after he was dead. I can't of anything else the cop was thinking other than making sure Floyd was dead.

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Twin3Turbo
06/04/20 11:20:03 AM
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He either
  1. Knew he was killing him and didn't care (at a minimum, he knew he was doing a lot of harm to him and didn't care.)
  2. Was killing him but didn't realize what he was doing would/could kill him.
Neither option is a good look for him. You could argue either as being worse than the other.

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hockeybub89
06/04/20 11:23:44 AM
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What was the endgame of the kneeling if not to hurt him? Would he have knelt on him another 20 minutes if it didn't kill him? When was George Floyd actually going to be moved into a vehicle again? They didn't call for more backup. They didn't all attempt to pick him up again.

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BathroomWater
06/04/20 11:46:46 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
What was the endgame of the kneeling if not to hurt him? Would he have knelt on him another 20 minutes if it didn't kill him? When was George Floyd actually going to be moved into a vehicle again? They didn't call for more backup. They didn't all attempt to pick him up again.

Yeah, seriously. They did nothing but have one guy suffocate a man to death while holding back bystanders from helping Floyd.

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UnfairRepresent
06/04/20 1:03:11 PM
#34:


George squealed "I can't breathe" with increasingly difficulty for several minutes until he went limp

On lookers screamed "You're killing him, he can't breathe! Get off him" while the cop stared at them for several minutes.

Yes he knew he was killing him unless he was blind and deaf. The intention was there
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Laserion
06/04/20 1:06:22 PM
#35:


hockeybub89 posted...
What was the endgame of the kneeling if not to hurt him? Would he have knelt on him another 20 minutes if it didn't kill him? When was George Floyd actually going to be moved into a vehicle again? They didn't call for more backup. They didn't all attempt to pick him up again.

These are all questions that I would like be asked to them directly. See what shit they can come up with.
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onedarksoul
06/04/20 1:08:16 PM
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I don't think he seriously considered it as a possibility. He must have done this dozens of times over the years with no issue, thats why he ignored everyone. Also, the cops in that city are trained that way so there's another factor.

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deanshow
06/04/20 1:12:41 PM
#37:


cmiller4642 posted...
How the fuck do you put your knee on someone's neck with force for 8 minutes and expect not to kill him?

Either he did it on purpose or he's too stupid to realize what he's doing

Either way he doesn't need to be a police officer and needs to go to jail.


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Sphyx
06/04/20 1:32:58 PM
#38:


He has a really unfortunate name, when you think about it.
Would someone who supports Chauvin be referred to as a Chauvinist?

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Alpha218
06/04/20 2:22:49 PM
#39:


Sphyx posted...
He has a really unfortunate name, when you think about it.
Would someone who supports Chauvin be referred to as a Chauvinist?
Who actually supports this guy? Even his wife is divorcing him.

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lincoln002
06/04/20 2:24:51 PM
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I voted no, I doubt he knew, he's a police officer they aren't exactly the brightest folks.

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UnfairRepresent
06/04/20 2:29:57 PM
#41:


Alpha218 posted...

Who actually supports this guy? Even his wife is divorcing him.

You know exactly what group of people who support him
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