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Tyranthraxus
06/03/20 2:46:41 PM
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With aiding and abetting the murder.

bUt WhaT dOeS PrOTEsTinG ChaNGE!?

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RadiantAdolin
06/03/20 2:49:29 PM
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One of them is probably going to get off as he actually acted properly and wanted to get Floyd off his stomach but was overridden by his senior officer.
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au_gold
06/03/20 2:50:01 PM
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Good.

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Tyranthraxus
06/03/20 2:51:27 PM
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RadiantAdolin posted...
One of them is probably going to get off as he actually acted properly and wanted to get Floyd off his stomach but was overridden by his senior officer.

I'm fine with that if that's the case.

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LanHikari10
06/03/20 2:52:15 PM
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spudger
06/03/20 2:52:46 PM
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LanHikari10 posted...
Why would you make a topic like this without posting a link though?
you canliterally turn on the tv its all over the news

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cmiller4642
06/03/20 2:53:30 PM
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Those 3 officers should have been arrested when he was. It's complete horseshit that they were able to walk free for that long.

If you sat there while one of your coworkers murdered someone and just watched then you would go to jail

Police are above the law and protected by their political unions tho
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LanHikari10
06/03/20 2:53:38 PM
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spudger posted...
you canliterally turn on the tv its all over the news
I'd still post a link if I made a topic like this.

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RadiantAdolin
06/03/20 2:53:48 PM
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spudger posted...
you canliterally turn on the tv its all over the news
What if I don't have a tv nearby?
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Squall28
06/03/20 2:53:58 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
With aiding and abetting the murder.

bUt WhaT dOeS PrOTEsTinG ChaNGE!?

They would've been sentenced without the follow up protests after his arrests.

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J03can
06/03/20 2:54:03 PM
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If he gets off like holy shit that will be bad

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spudger
06/03/20 2:54:56 PM
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RadiantAdolin posted...
What if I don't have a tv nearby?
the internet

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spudger
06/03/20 2:55:10 PM
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J03can posted...
If he gets off like holy shit that will be bad
he wont

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VipaGTS
06/03/20 2:56:35 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
I asked this in a separate topic but doesn't this make it harder for a conviction? And should it he be acquitted, that would mean the others would as well.
He still has manslaughter charges, this just increases the likelihood that a murder charge could stick.

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LanHikari10
06/03/20 2:57:11 PM
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spudger posted...
the internet
I always expect there to be a source provided when news is reported on.

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Veggeta X
06/03/20 2:57:57 PM
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Maybe I've been watching too much TV but what if Chauvin cuts a deal? Outs a bunch of bad cops to get his sentence reduced.

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cmiller4642
06/03/20 2:58:01 PM
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spudger posted...
he wont

The 4 officers in the Rodney King trial got off. The only reason they faced prison time was because President Bush had the FBI press charges for civil rights violations.

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creativerealms
06/03/20 2:58:14 PM
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Good. Between this and all four of them being fired it looks like at least some justice was served.

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kingdrake2
06/03/20 2:58:21 PM
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LanHikari10 posted...
I always expect there to be a source provided when news is reported on.


this. we'll know in time
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UnholyMudcrab
06/03/20 2:58:28 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
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spudger
06/03/20 3:03:32 PM
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cmiller4642 posted...
The 4 officers in the Rodney King trial got off. The only reason they faced prison time was because President Bush had the FBI press charges for civil rights violations.

Trump wouldn't do that
little bit different since then. cant compare.

i dont see why you would think he will get off on any charge.

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kingdrake2
06/03/20 3:13:11 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
Or what were they charged with?


aiding/abetting the police officer doing the murder.
basically means not helping the victim while a crime is in progress.
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PatrickMahomes
06/03/20 3:14:28 PM
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LanHikari10 posted...
Why would you make a topic like this without posting a link though?
Because there's already another topic with a link but he just wants the cap

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78742631

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cmiller4642
06/03/20 3:14:51 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
aiding/abetting the police officer doing the murder.
basically means not helping the victim while a crime is in progress.

They should face the exact same charges that Chauvin is facing.

Tou Thao literally just shrugged his shoulders the whole time during the video while Chauvin was murdering George Floyd.

He absolutely is just as responsible for George Floyd's death as Chauvin is
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Autocraticus
06/03/20 3:41:46 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
With aiding and abetting the murder.

bUt WhaT dOeS PrOTEsTinG ChaNGE!?

So the rioting stops now right? Or will they continue to let their own cities burn?
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cmiller4642
06/03/20 3:43:55 PM
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Autocraticus posted...
So the rioting stops now right? Or will they continue to let their own cities burn?

I think they should keep protesting until the police department makes radical changes otherwise this will just happen again
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Bio1590
06/03/20 3:45:40 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
I asked this in a separate topic but doesn't this make it harder for a conviction? And should it he be acquitted, that would mean the others would as well.


I remember reading a Twitter thread that he probably wouldn't have even been convicted of Murder 3 based on the precedent set by other Murder 3 convictions in Minnesota already. That was the reason for the whole #Upthedegree push
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FabIemaster
06/03/20 3:47:20 PM
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Autocraticus posted...
So the rioting stops now right? Or will they continue to let their own cities burn?

Justice for Floyd doesn't stop at a conviction. At this point some serious reform is going to need to happen before people calm down.

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Solid Sonic
06/03/20 3:48:50 PM
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FabIemaster posted...
Justice for Floyd doesn't stop at a conviction. At this point some serious reform is going to need to happen before people calm down.

The abolishment of law enforcement and the creation of a new protective entity?

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FabIemaster
06/03/20 3:52:19 PM
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I doubt that would happen but I'd be cool with abolishing police unions, higher accountability for police officers, and harsher punishments when they fuck up.

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Calwings
06/03/20 4:28:08 PM
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FabIemaster posted...
higher accountability for police officers, and harsher punishments when they fuck up.

This is the main thing. The police force needs to be held accountable by someone from the outside looking in who can't be affected by the so-called "blue code of silence" or whatever it is. After the protests in Ferguson (due to the Michael Brown shooting) a few years ago, the city established a Civilian Review Board meant to supervise the police force from outside and look at citizens' complains against them.

https://www.fergusoncity.com/544/Civilian-Review-Board

Making a law, whether at the state or federal level, saying that having such a review board (or some sort of external supervision from outside the police force) is mandatory for every city to have and enforce fully would be a big step forward. The police force is clearly not doing a good enough job at policing itself, so external intervention is necessary. Police brutality will never be fully stopped, but I'm sure there would be quite a bit less if the officers were facing an actual threat of prison time every single time they try to get too rough and kill someone that didn't need to die.
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Solid Sonic
06/03/20 4:31:11 PM
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Blue Bloods told me that sort of thing is obstructive from getting real police work done.

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UnholyMudcrab
06/03/20 4:31:42 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
GregShmedley posted...
I asked this in a separate topic but doesn't this make it harder for a conviction? And should it he be acquitted, that would mean the others would as well.


I remember reading a Twitter thread that he probably wouldn't have even been convicted of Murder 3 based on the precedent set by other Murder 3 convictions in Minnesota already. That was the reason for the whole #Upthedegree push

What precedent would that be?
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spudger
06/03/20 4:32:15 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Blue Bloods told me that sort of thing is obstructive from getting real police work done.
then it must be done. it scares the pigs.

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Bio1590
06/03/20 5:01:48 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...


What precedent would that be?

I gotta find the thread but I'm at the dentist so I'll get back to you >_>

Basically it had something to do with Chauvin not engaging in an activity that presented a risk to everyone that was actually there, it was just targeted at Floyd.
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Tyranthraxus
06/03/20 5:10:14 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
What precedent would that be?

Someone more knowledgeable than me said that because Floyd was specifically singled out for injury, it's murder 2nd. If somehow the situation was there was a whole bunch of guys on the ground and he was running laps on their necks and one of them died, that would be more like murder 3rd degree.

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UnholyMudcrab
06/03/20 5:17:55 PM
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Okay, I see what you're talking about. The ACLU article, right?
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