Current Events > Among the protests against Derek Chauvin, Target gets looted

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https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/gryaah/dozens_of_people_loot_the_target_store_near/

man that huge nerf gun, almost as big as a tv

MaxEffingBemis posted...

Fyi that scooter lady had a knife and was trying to stab people with it

it must've been the dementia :( it causes crazy shit to happen.
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Malfunction posted...

andy ngo is a fash piece of shit liar

I'm sure his video taken is a lie. Right? Perhaps he just using footage of Fallujah?

kingdrake2 posted...

it must've been the dementia :( it causes crazy shit to happen.

Not only that but video shows scooter lady can walk just fine. Shes a phony

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ChadMansplainer posted...

I'm sure his video taken is a lie. Right? Perhaps he just using footage of Fallujah?

Andy Ngo has been known to crop videos to support his takes

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MaxEffingBemis posted...

Andy Ngo has been known to crop videos to support his takes

It's entirely possible that people who post his videos know that they're dishonest, and know that they serve a purpose for fascists. Such people don't care about the truth.

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ScazarMeltex posted...

That target refused to sell milk to help protestors who got teargassed.

I keep seeing this quoted on gamefaqs but I am unable to find it substantiated anywhere online, other than tweets from literal antifa supporters.

Good try but I suspect its making fake excuses and justifications as to destroying an entire Target store.

MaxEffingBemis posted...

Andy Ngo has been known to crop videos to support his takes

show me where in the video of smoldering rubble of Minneapolis the cropping took place. I'm looking and I can't find it

Its almost like were in the midst of a pandemic with 20% unemployment and no aid on the way for the unemployed or those deemed essential

people are taking what they are owed.

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ChadMansplainer posted...

show me where in the video of smoldering rubble of Minneapolis the cropping took place. I'm looking and I can't find it

Fuck off with the hyperbolic garbage. "The smoldering rubble of Minneapolis"
A couple of store got burned down and some windows busted. Worse shit has happened when some cities won/lost the superbowl.

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butthole666 posted...

Its almost like were in the midst of a pandemic with 20% unemployment and no aid on the way for the unemployed or those deemed essential

people are taking what they are owed.

they are owed stolen vacuum cleaners and TVs and cases of beer? What the fuck are you saying?

ChadMansplainer posted...

an Autozone is on fire too.

These people are fucking stupid. I get protesting, but don't destroy your own community

Protesting accomplishes nothing. It took massive riots before police eventually did something about the Rodney King beating, though they still didn't do much.

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ScazarMeltex posted...

Fuck off with the hyperbolic garbage. "The smoldering rubble of Minneapolis"
A couple of store got burned down and some windows busted. Worse shit has happened when some cities won/lost the superbowl.

"a couple of stores" - a few dozen, including an entire affordable housing development that was under construction. Entire blocks utterly destroyed and smoldering right this minute. This community will probably never recover, every business will leave.

Worse shit has not, in fact, happened after a superbowl win/loss. That's completely incorrect.

ScazarMeltex posted...

I feel like your reading comprehension skills are suspect.
You wanna talk about Target though, ok. That target refused to sell milk to help protestors who got teargassed. They aren't part of the community, they actively work to tear down poor communites by coming in and gentrifying everything around them. I don't care if that target gets burned to the ground so long as no employees are harmed. Because Target actively harms poor communites by driving poor people out of the area. Gentrification is violence just on a slower scale.

Riots are what happens when the voice of the community is ignored over and over. You saw it in LA, you saw it in St. Louis, Baltimore, take your pick. After years of trying to get things changed peacefully, with no improvement, the community snaps and starts fucking shit up. You have to force people to look at you. You can't appeal to the better nature of people who don't think of you as human.

Lo and behold after that things tend to get a bit better. LA saw some real positive change come out of the riots when it came policing techniques. St. Louis has improved a bit, I don't know about Baltimore because I haven't been following it.

Ironically its your reading skills that should be called into question, as I wasnt talking about Target, nor did I mention them even once lol. Whats even more hilarious is that YOU didnt mention Target in that quote either.

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ChainedRedone posted...

Protesting accomplishes nothing. It took massive riots before police eventually did something about the Rodney King beating, though they still didn't do much.

Multiple people died and billions of dollars in damage was done in the Rodney King riots. I'd say that those riots were a net negative on society overall.

May 2020 account

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butthole666 posted...

Its almost like were in the midst of a pandemic with 20% unemployment and no aid on the way for the unemployed or those deemed essential

people are taking what they are owed.

If you work in ER you can just go squat in a mansion and say it is yours.

ChadMansplainer posted...

"a couple of stores" - a few dozen,

Hasnt it also spread to Cali? These users saying a couple stores need to do some research before posting.

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Who the fuck cares about the stores that are insured. A man was fucking killed and the only thing that happened was his killer got fired.

ChadMansplainer posted...

Multiple people died and billions of dollars in damage was done in the Rodney King riots. I'd say that those riots were a net negative on society overall.

It was one significant factor that led to much reformation in the police department and government. Less deaths in the long run.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/28/us/lapd-change-since-la-riots/index.html


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CommonStar posted...

Who the fuck cares about the stores that are insured. A man was fucking killed and the only thing that happened was his killer got fired.

I work with commercial real estate and insurance. A lot of commercial policies have exceptions for civil disobedience damage and riots. I suspect that a lot of these businesses are going to go away.

The killer will get his due, he will certainly be charged.

The riots were completely unnecessary, and probably swayed a lot of MN voters to Trump

ChadMansplainer posted...

including an entire affordable housing development that was under construction

damn.... they went too far this time they never target housing.
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ScazarMeltex posted...

This.
Every cop must obey orders. They are required to enforce unethical laws or risk losing a job that provides them with a comfortable income if they refuse. In the rare occasion that a cop does blow the whistle on an injustice, the thin blue line is immediately invoked and the seemingly well-intentioned cops are ostracized by their peers, almost always neutralizing their intentions.

When a person becomes a police officer, their job is to enforce the laws. Not all laws are good. They simply do as they are told and "welp, it's the law". The institution of policing is inherently corrupt because they enforce laws which have nothing to do with ethics and everything to do with serving corporate interests.

If your job requires you to do unethical things and you continue to do that job for a paycheck, you have sold out and can no longer consider yourself an ethical person. Every cop has sold their soul for a middle class income. That's a pretty fucking low price to accept for your integrity.

Police have to enforce unjust laws, like the criminalization of the medical use a cannabis. Smoking cannabis harms no one and is a victimless crime. Is it even a crime at all? Filling up jails with pot smokers only has negative consequences on society (though a good profit for the corporate prison industry), as taxpayers are burdened and people prosecuted for drug offenses often have a difficult time finding employment after being released from prison. Children also suffer under the burden of having one less parent to care for them. This lack of need fulfillment leads to more crime as children mature.

Police enforce unjust laws that harass and criminalize people who have no home. Sleep is a primary human need like air, food, and water. Is it ethically permissible to harass someone or chase someone because the only place they can afford to sleep is the sidewalk? Would a good person do that?

The police are an inherently violent institution where force is used to extort money from poor people and property is stolen. The racism and bias against the oppressed and poor is pervasive. The entire institution is so corrupt and violent that participating in it makes one corrupt and violent by silent consent. It is impossible to be a good person and participate in violence and oppression.

For example, a person unable to pay $150 for a car registration will have that car stolen from them with the assistance of the police. The car will then be held for ransom. If the person who was too poor to pay the $150 cant pay the ransom, then the car, which has a value of thousands of dollars, will be sold and the state will profit off of the backs of the poor. Anyone willingly accepting money from such an institution that extorts poor people is by default not a good person.This of course doesn't even begin to touch on Civil Forfeiture where law enforcement officers take assets from persons suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with wrongdoing.

Ethical and legal are completely separate thingstherefore, there are no good cops as they are required to enforce unethical laws.Are there decent individuals that become cops? Of course. However, the institution of policing means police officers, by default, are oppressors by occupationmeaning there are no good active-duty cops.

TLDR: It's not the individual actions of all police that makes them bad. It's active participation in a corrupt and violent institution that makes them bad

Your entire premise is incorrect. Cops do not have to enforce all laws. Every officer has discretion to enforce or not enforce almost all laws. The main exception, in PA, is assault with a domestic violence component. Arrests in these cases are essentially mandatory under the statute, and the offender is immediately taken to jail.

Where I work, nobody gets arrested for marijuana possession unless youve got 10 lbs. in your trunk. Then, maybe Ill care, because if youre selling that much weed, youve probably got guns and other drugs.

What Im trying to convey to you is that this entire theory that cops must enforce unethical laws is factually incorrect.

And lol @ comfortable income.

Educate yourself more thoroughly on how police work. Im not saying there arent departments that want you to enforce unethical or unjust laws, but you can change that as a citizen by putting a good mayor in office.

Police chiefs serve at the pleasure of the mayor. So, the mayor can often dictate police behavior, or at least change certain parts of that behavior.

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https://twitter.com/jiminlaflare/status/1266026361623379969

Yea i'm sure that person was super sympathetic to the cause and not just an opportunist taking advantage of the situation...

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Patchwork posted...

Your entire premise is incorrect. Cops do not have to enforce all laws. Every officer has discretion to enforce or not enforce almost all laws. The main exception, in PA, is assault with a domestic violence component. Arrests in these cases are essentially mandatory under the statute, and the offender is immediately taken to jail.

Where I work, nobody gets arrested for marijuana possession unless youve got 10 lbs. in your trunk. Then, maybe Ill care, because if youre selling that much weed, youve probably got guns and other drugs.

What Im trying to convey to you is that this entire theory that cops must enforce unethical laws is factually incorrect.

And lol @ comfortable income.

Educate yourself more thoroughly on how police work. Im not saying there arent departments that want you to enforce unethical or unjust laws, but you can change that as a citizen by putting a good mayor in office.

Police chiefs serve at the pleasure of the mayor. So, the mayor can often dictate police behavior, or at least change certain parts of that behavior.

Exactly. He is just repeating talking points he heard on twitter about "people being put in jail for simple marijuana possession". That doesn't happen in the real world.
Great post

Id be happy if when a cop saw another cop doing something either illegal or dangerous they would donsomething to stop it. Or if impossible, notify dispatch of the situation.

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looting happening on the sides under the cover of protests does not take away from the justification of the protests

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ThyCorndog posted...

looting happening on the sides under the cover of protests does not take away from the justification of the protests

Agreed. The protests were warranted.

but stuff like rioting and looting take the attention of normal people and take away from the initial cause

ChadMansplainer posted...

Agreed. The protests were warranted.

but stuff like rioting and looting take the attention of normal people and take away from the initial cause

ok but you're making the mistake of grouping the looters in with the protesters. They're not all the same people. Look at the video i posted above. I highly doubt that woman running out of Target with 3 lamps was there to protest and just decided to loot. The looters don't care that they're taking attention away. If you truly were sympathetic to the cause you'd be able to separate them from the protesters. Anyone who has their attention taken away because of the Looters were just itching for a reason to hate the protesters and this is the easiest way for them to o so...By pretending that they're majorly the ones looting. The protesters can't control what a bunch of opportunists who don't care about their cause do.

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ThyCorndog posted...

looting happening on the sides under the cover of protests does not take away from the justification of the protests

No but it's a quick way to get everyone else to look down and disregard whatever message a protest is trying to get across. Makes them all look like opportunists and thieves. Like "Oh look they don't really care they just want an excuse to destroy and steal." Actual protesters try to stop this but they can only do so much. People are dumb.

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VipaGTS posted...

ok but you're making the mistake of grouping the looters in with the protesters. They're not all the same people. Look at the video i posted above. I highly doubt that woman running out of Target with 3 lamps was there to protest and just decided to loot. The looters don't care that they're taking attention away. If you truly were sympathetic to the cause you'd be able to separate them from the protesters. Anyone who has their attention taken away because of the Looters were just itching for a reason to hate the protesters and this is the easiest way for them to o so...By pretending that they're majorly the ones looting. The protesters can't control what a bunch of opportunists who don't care about their cause do.

When half or more of the News coverage of thr protests shows mayhem and looting and literally burning down buildings, its easy to get distracted.

ive only seen limited coverage of the actual peaceful protests, vast majority of coverage Ive seen is of the lawlessness and destruction

why didnt the legit protesters Try to stop this?

ChadMansplainer posted...

When half or more of the News coverage of thr protests shows mayhem and looting and literally burning down buildings, its easy to get distracted.

ive only seen limited coverage of the actual peaceful protests, vast majority of coverage Ive seen is of the lawlessness and destruction

why didnt the legit protesters Try to stop this?

just realized who you are. god damn do you need a life.

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VipaGTS posted...

just realized who you are. god damn do you need a life.

who is he ?

The_Bitcoin posted...

who is he ?

its a new account from this month with the same posting style as all the others. i couldn't imagine using someone's death to troll for entertainment, let alone having to constantly make accounts on a site like GameFAQs to do it.

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ChadMansplainer posted...

Multiple people died and billions of dollars in damage was done in the Rodney King riots. I'd say that those riots were a net negative on society overall.

You'd be entirely wrong, but that is the norm for people like you.

Sometimes you need to overturn the apple cart and kick the damn door down

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ScazarMeltex posted...

This.
Every cop must obey orders. They are required to enforce unethical laws or risk losing a job that provides them with a comfortable income if they refuse. In the rare occasion that a cop does blow the whistle on an injustice, the thin blue line is immediately invoked and the seemingly well-intentioned cops are ostracized by their peers, almost always neutralizing their intentions.

When a person becomes a police officer, their job is to enforce the laws. Not all laws are good. They simply do as they are told and "welp, it's the law". The institution of policing is inherently corrupt because they enforce laws which have nothing to do with ethics and everything to do with serving corporate interests.

If your job requires you to do unethical things and you continue to do that job for a paycheck, you have sold out and can no longer consider yourself an ethical person. Every cop has sold their soul for a middle class income. That's a pretty fucking low price to accept for your integrity.

Police have to enforce unjust laws, like the criminalization of the medical use a cannabis. Smoking cannabis harms no one and is a victimless crime. Is it even a crime at all? Filling up jails with pot smokers only has negative consequences on society (though a good profit for the corporate prison industry), as taxpayers are burdened and people prosecuted for drug offenses often have a difficult time finding employment after being released from prison. Children also suffer under the burden of having one less parent to care for them. This lack of need fulfillment leads to more crime as children mature.

Police enforce unjust laws that harass and criminalize people who have no home. Sleep is a primary human need like air, food, and water. Is it ethically permissible to harass someone or chase someone because the only place they can afford to sleep is the sidewalk? Would a good person do that?

The police are an inherently violent institution where force is used to extort money from poor people and property is stolen. The racism and bias against the oppressed and poor is pervasive. The entire institution is so corrupt and violent that participating in it makes one corrupt and violent by silent consent. It is impossible to be a good person and participate in violence and oppression.

For example, a person unable to pay $150 for a car registration will have that car stolen from them with the assistance of the police. The car will then be held for ransom. If the person who was too poor to pay the $150 cant pay the ransom, then the car, which has a value of thousands of dollars, will be sold and the state will profit off of the backs of the poor. Anyone willingly accepting money from such an institution that extorts poor people is by default not a good person.This of course doesn't even begin to touch on Civil Forfeiture where law enforcement officers take assets from persons suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with wrongdoing.

Ethical and legal are completely separate thingstherefore, there are no good cops as they are required to enforce unethical laws.Are there decent individuals that become cops? Of course. However, the institution of policing means police officers, by default, are oppressors by occupationmeaning there are no good active-duty cops.

TLDR: It's not the individual actions of all police that makes them bad. It's active participation in a corrupt and violent institution that makes them bad

What a huge steaming pile of shit. You're bitching about cops like they create the law. Politicians make laws...and those politicians are elected by people. If cops have to enforce unjust laws, then they are put in that position by the people of this country who keep electing dumbfuck politicians who create dumbfuck laws. Or worse....self righteous assholes who sit back and dont even vote, then they cry when stuff is fucked up.

So yeah, we have bad people who vote in bad politicians who make bad laws that our bad cops have to enforce.

Tldr: Everyone sucks.

The Great Muta 22 posted...

You'd be entirely wrong, but that is the norm for people like you.

Sometimes you need to overturn the apple cart and kick the damn door down

I'm sure that the MN riots are going to do a ton of good. Oh wait, no they won't. They will cause untold devastation for an underprivileged community for many many years.

What part of "everyone agrees that this was a horrible killing of someone by a police officer" are you missing? Everyone agrees it was bad, no one is defending the cop here.

VipaGTS posted...

its a new account from this month with the same posting style as all the others. i couldn't imagine using someone's death to troll for entertainment, let alone having to constantly make accounts on a site like GameFAQs to do it.

I have no idea who you are accusing me of being, but how am I trolling for entertainment? Do you honestly think that I support rioting and looting? Or that everyone else supports this or else they are trolling?

Why can't these damn protesters go back to protesting peacefully in the free speech zone so I can ignore them and keep shopping at target!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEE

Howd the riots work for Baltimore?

They didnt. They burned down half the city and changed nothing.

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Patchwork posted...

Howd the riots work for Baltimore?

They didnt. They burned down half the city and changed nothing.

Same with Ferguson MO, Baltimore, etc etc

I laugh when people here say that "you have to resort to rioting to get change!"

No you don't. Nothing will come out of this other than a ruined and smoldering community

Patchwork posted...

Howd the riots work for Baltimore?

They didnt. They burned down half the city and changed nothing.

actually, they sort of worked.

obama pushed for a reform that made some PDs, including Baltimore to enter a consent agreement or whatever the name was, that would increase accountability for the police.

then a few months later 45 won the election and his racial politics changed things and the keebler elf (sessions) destroyed said agreements and we went back to square one

You can either riot and have a fighting chance at change or you can peacefully protest for a 0% success rate. Amazing how that is hard for some people to understand.

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I'm not going to cry for Target here. They contributed to the problem:

https://www.mprnews.org/amp/story/2011/10/21/target-forensics-lab?__twitter_impression=true

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RevivedPacifist posted...

You can either riot and have a fighting chance at change or you can peacefully protest for a 0% success rate. Amazing how that is hard for some people to understand.

They understand it just fine.

RevivedPacifist posted...

You can either riot and have a fighting chance at change or you can peacefully protest for a 0% success rate. Amazing how that is hard for some people to understand.

so you're saying looting and burning houses/businesses is the difference between no success and some success through protest

lmfao *clown emoji*

RevivedPacifist posted...

You can either riot and have a fighting chance at change or you can peacefully protest for a 0% success rate. Amazing how that is hard for some people to understand.

I'm just amazed at people here who justify rioting and destruction for any reason at all. I keep seeing it. It seems so insane to me.

And I heartily laugh if you think that the people breaking windows, burning buildings (including an affordable housing development), carrying liquor bottles and TVs out of Target and mom and pop stores give a flying fuck about "change" - they just are selfish and are trying to take advantage of the situation.

I'm not even sure what "change" you are even referring to - literally everyone agrees that the killing was not justified and the cop acted outside of his authority.

IronWolf87 posted...

They understand it just fine.

I agree, but unfortunately they will just continue to whine while conveniently not being able to list any instances where peaceful protesting has worked

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Musourenka posted...

I'm not going to cry for Target here. They contributed to the problem:

https://www.mprnews.org/amp/story/2011/10/21/target-forensics-lab?__twitter_impression=true

THeir technology LITERALLY, and I mean literally from the text of the article you cited, is credited with helping to recover an abducted child, and catching a triple murderer. WHat problem did they contribute to again? I'm missing your point

sheltered ppl/ppl lashing out what they cant say out loud in person

you just dont hear those kinda takes irl, from either white or black ppl