Poll of the Day > "Crisis leads to opportunity." China: So, if we create a crisis...?

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streamofthesky 05/25/20 1:34:05 PM #1:	https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/china-signals-plan-to-take-full-control-of-hong-kong-realigning-citys-status /2020/05/21/2c3850ee-9b48-11ea-ad79-eef7cd734641_story.html (sorry, take out the space, link was too long) On Thursday, China made clear it was asserting control over Hong Kong through improvement of its governance. We will ensure the long-term stability of one country, two systems, Wang Yang, head of the Chinese Peoples Political Consultative Conference, said at the opening of the annual meeting of Chinas top political advisory body. The meeting is the first part of the Two Sessions political gatherings, which will continue Friday with the National Peoples Congress (NPC), the rubber-stamp parliament. The legislation could pass as early as next week and will bypass all of Hong Kongs usual processes. Similar laws were proposed in 2003 and would have allowed authorities to conduct searches without warrants. But they were abandoned after mass protests and never picked up locally again. The shift will have far-reaching effects. Under the agreement Britain signed with China before it handed back Hong Kong in 1997, the territory is supposed to enjoy its relative freedoms until at least 2047 under the one country, two systems framework. Im speechless, Dennis Kwok, a pro-democracy lawmaker, said of the proposed national security legislation. Kwok was singled out for criticism by Beijing and was recently removed from his chairmanship of a key Legislative Council committee. This is a complete and total surprise and I think it means the end of one country, two systems. Kwok said that the Hong Kong government and Beijing had used the coronavirus pandemic as cover to clamp down on the city. When the world is not watching, they are killing Hong Kong, killing one country, two systems, and using social distancing rules to keep people from coming out to protest, he said. This is the most devastating thing to happen to Hong Kong since the hand over. China causes the coronavirus pandemic, then instead of having, say...shame.... recognizes it as a golden opportunity to swoop in and crush dissent in Hong Kong, with the world distracted and HK citizens unable to protest en masse without risking their own health. I'm sadly not shocked, I was actually expecting China would go a step further and intentionally contaminate HK protestors to scare them into ceasing protests. Hell, they're probably still planning that if this measure doesn't dispirit the people of HK enough to keep them from resisting. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:939686533] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/china-signals-plan-to-take-full-control-of-hong-kong-realigning-citys-status /2020/05/21/2c3850ee-9b48-11ea-ad79-eef7cd734641_story.html (sorry, take out the space, link was too long) <quote>On Thursday, China made clear it was asserting control over Hong Kong through improvement of its governance. We will ensure the long-term stability of one country, two systems, Wang Yang, head of the Chinese Peoples Political Consultative Conference, said at the opening of the annual meeting of Chinas top political advisory body. The meeting is the first part of the Two Sessions political gatherings, which will continue Friday with the National Peoples Congress (NPC), the rubber-stamp parliament.</quote> <quote>The legislation could pass as early as next week and will bypass all of Hong Kongs usual processes. Similar laws were proposed in 2003 and would have allowed authorities to conduct searches without warrants. But they were abandoned after mass protests and never picked up locally again.</quote> <quote>The shift will have far-reaching effects. Under the agreement Britain signed with China before it handed back Hong Kong in 1997, the territory is supposed to enjoy its relative freedoms until at least 2047 under the one country, two systems framework.</quote> <quote>Im speechless, Dennis Kwok, a pro-democracy lawmaker, said of the proposed national security legislation. Kwok was singled out for criticism by Beijing and was recently removed from his chairmanship of a key Legislative Council committee. This is a complete and total surprise and I think it means the end of one country, two systems. Kwok said that the Hong Kong government and Beijing had used the coronavirus pandemic as cover to clamp down on the city. When the world is not watching, they are killing Hong Kong, killing one country, two systems, and using social distancing rules to keep people from coming out to protest, he said. This is the most devastating thing to happen to Hong Kong since the hand over.</quote> China causes the coronavirus pandemic, then instead of having, say...shame.... recognizes it as a golden opportunity to swoop in and crush dissent in Hong Kong, with the world distracted and HK citizens unable to protest en masse without risking their own health. I'm sadly not shocked, I was actually expecting China would go a step further and intentionally contaminate HK protestors to scare them into ceasing protests. Hell, they're probably still planning that if this measure doesn't dispirit the people of HK enough to keep them from resisting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/25/20 1:34:43 PM #2:	streamofthesky posted... Wang Yang lol --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesn't change what's in your blood. <cite>Mead posted [p:939686562] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>Wang Yang</quote> lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 05/25/20 1:36:26 PM #3:	Mead posted... lol I'm glad you found purpose in this news report <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:939686647] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>lol</quote>I'm glad you found purpose in this news report </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/25/20 2:22:07 PM #4:	Country asserts control over part of its nation. More at 11. Not sure why people expect governments to stop governing in the midst of a pandemic. And if protests were all it took, then HK would have seceded. streamofthesky posted... I'm glad you found purpose in this news report I'm just surprised a midcard wrestler like Jimmy Wayne Yang... oh, probably not the same guy. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:939688645] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>Country asserts control over part of its nation. More at 11. Not sure why people expect governments to stop governing in the midst of a pandemic. And if protests were all it took, then HK would have seceded. streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>I'm glad you found purpose in this news report</quote> I'm just surprised a midcard wrestler like Jimmy Wayne Yang... oh, probably not the same guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 05/25/20 3:05:35 PM #5:	Zeus posted... Country asserts control over part of its nation. More at 11. Not sure why people expect governments to stop governing in the midst of a pandemic. And if protests were all it took, then HK would have seceded. China agreed to the "one country, two systems setup as part of the 1997 hand over, and they're blatantly disregarding that, as well as the will of the residents of HK, who have REPEATEDLY made it clear they don't want their freedoms taken away. But of course you'd defend an autocratic government ignoring the will of the people. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:939690430] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Country asserts control over part of its nation. More at 11. Not sure why people expect governments to stop governing in the midst of a pandemic. And if protests were all it took, then HK would have seceded. </quote>China agreed to the "one country, two systems setup as part of the 1997 hand over, and they're blatantly disregarding that, as well as the will of the residents of HK, who have REPEATEDLY made it clear they don't want their freedoms taken away. But of course you'd defend an autocratic government ignoring the will of the people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 05/25/20 3:06:55 PM #6:	that kinda sounds like the philosophy of Cao Cao from Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Dynasty Warriors he was known as the "hero of chaos". he used a crisis to fuel his ambition <cite>Zikten posted [p:939690495] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>that kinda sounds like the philosophy of Cao Cao from Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Dynasty Warriors he was known as the "hero of chaos". he used a crisis to fuel his ambition </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 05/25/20 3:10:21 PM #7:	Zikten posted... that kinda sounds like the philosophy of Cao Cao from Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Dynasty Warriors he was known as the "hero of chaos". he used a crisis to fuel his ambition It's a pretty common sentiment. There's plenty of times where it's not nefarious and makes sense. Safety guidelines for ships came as a result of the Titanic, for example. Sadly sometimes it takes a tragedy for people to be open to changes that are good that may have been previously resisted, often because they cost money. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:939690633] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>that kinda sounds like the philosophy of Cao Cao from Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Dynasty Warriors he was known as the "hero of chaos". he used a crisis to fuel his ambition</quote>It's a pretty common sentiment. There's plenty of times where it's not nefarious and makes sense. Safety guidelines for ships came as a result of the Titanic, for example. Sadly sometimes it takes a tragedy for people to be open to changes that are good that may have been previously resisted, often because they cost money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 05/25/20 3:13:09 PM #8:	Zikten posted... that kinda sounds like the philosophy of Cao Cao from Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Dynasty Warriors he was known as the "hero of chaos". he used a crisis to fuel his ambition Everyone used chaos to fuel their ambitions. --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:939690754] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>that kinda sounds like the philosophy of Cao Cao from Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Dynasty Warriors he was known as the "hero of chaos". he used a crisis to fuel his ambition</quote>Everyone used chaos to fuel their ambitions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/25/20 3:21:20 PM #9:	VeeVees posted... Everyone used chaos to fuel their ambitions. Not Winnie the Pooh --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesn't change what's in your blood. <cite>Mead posted [p:939691051] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>VeeVees posted... </cite> <quote>Everyone used chaos to fuel their ambitions.</quote> Not Winnie the Pooh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 05/27/20 1:35:46 AM #10:	Mead posted... Not Winnie the Pooh Xi Jinping: Yeah, I would never...! ....Wait a minute... <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:939765390] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>Not Winnie the Pooh</quote>Xi Jinping: Yeah, I would never...! ....Wait a minute... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 05/27/20 2:28:59 AM #11:	streamofthesky posted... China agreed to the "one country, two systems setup as part of the 1997 hand over, and they're blatantly disregarding that, as well as the will of the residents of HK, who have REPEATEDLY made it clear they don't want their freedoms taken away. But of course you'd defend an autocratic government ignoring the will of the people. Zeus is a Russian troll. You have to remember hes on welfare like TheWorstPoster. They behave like their rich. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:939766759] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>China agreed to the "one country, two systems setup as part of the 1997 hand over, and they're blatantly disregarding that, as well as the will of the residents of HK, who have REPEATEDLY made it clear they don't want their freedoms taken away. But of course you'd defend an autocratic government ignoring the will of the people.</quote>Zeus is a Russian troll. You have to remember hes on welfare like TheWorstPoster. They behave like their rich. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 05/27/20 8:05:18 AM #12:	I thought Reddit freed Hong Kong with its dank memes. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:939772675] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>I thought Reddit freed Hong Kong with its dank memes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bugmeat 05/27/20 10:17:26 AM #13:	FrndNhbrHdCEman posted... They behave like their rich Like their rich what? Cousins? Uncle? Friends? Come on guy. Don't leave us hanging like that. --- "Genetics is fascinating. For example, if I mated with this chicken, I wonder if any of you would tell." <cite>Bugmeat posted [p:939776626] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted... </cite> <quote>They behave like their rich</quote>Like their rich what? Cousins? Uncle? Friends? Come on guy. Don't leave us hanging like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 05/27/20 10:35:09 AM #14:	Bugmeat posted... Come on guy. Consensually, I hope. --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:939777275] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>Bugmeat posted... </cite> <quote>Come on guy.</quote>Consensually, I hope. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 05/28/20 9:17:08 AM #15:	https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/27/politics/hong-kong-pompeo-certification/index.html This is definitely a situation where I actually agree w/ the Trump administration. Broken clocks and all that.... <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:939826794] in "Cris... [t:78718380]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/27/politics/hong-kong-pompeo-certification/index.html This is definitely a situation where I actually agree w/ the Trump administration. Broken clocks and all that.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Poll of the Day > "Crisis leads to opportunity." China: So, if we create a crisis...? (+) Yeah! (+)

Poll of the Day > "Crisis leads to opportunity." China: So, if we create a crisis...?