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HylianFox
05/21/20 1:15:24 PM
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Has anyone else noticed how common this is?

"Avatar: The Last Airbender" is the most obvious and well-known example (it's right there in the title for fuck's sake), but it's also true of Golden Sun, Final Fantasy 1 (namely the Air = extinct part), and for a more obscure example The Dragon Quartet novels

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ASithLord7
05/21/20 1:17:18 PM
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How common this is, lists two old videogames and a novel nobody has ever heard of

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Akagami_Shanks
05/21/20 1:18:09 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
How common this is, lists two old videogames and a novel nobody has ever heard of
LMAO

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Pythagorass
05/21/20 1:18:24 PM
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I can't think of anything with the avatar elemental set up aside from avatar
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
05/21/20 1:18:35 PM
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Liu Kang is Fire.

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sktgamer_13dude
05/21/20 1:20:03 PM
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I mean its almost always obvious that Fire is evil as its the only one of the elements thats completely destructive. It destroys everything it touches.

Unless you have people like Iroh (after his son died and he became more enlightened) teaching the young minds.

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cjsdowg
05/21/20 1:22:01 PM
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Wheeler was an "arrogant " American.-So could be bad.
Kwame- Good stronger leader.
Gi- Smart powerful and Good.
Linka-well her country went extinct

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OffTempo
05/21/20 1:23:21 PM
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Always felt like Earth is the strongest/wouldve made more sense to be the villains. They could threaten to create massive fissures/earthquakes and take control of everything. Fire is the second most logical imo.

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K181
05/21/20 1:25:55 PM
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Air is ethereal and very powerful in traditional Eastern cultures making it too OP to be a major nation or unrealistic for bad guys.

Water is the source of life and implies great power with considerable control, likewise making it unrealistic for bad guys.

Earth is noble while obstinate, so while it can be a bad guy final season of Korra, but more sensible as a supporting ally.

Fire is destruction and regeneration, making it an obvious candidate for bad guys focusing on the former and not the latter.

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CyricZ
05/21/20 1:26:09 PM
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If nothing else, Korra playing with these expectations was welcome.

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refmon
05/21/20 1:26:15 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
How common this is, lists two old videogames and a novel nobody has ever heard of


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MagnusDJL
05/21/20 1:26:23 PM
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I don't know if it's completely fitting for Golden Sun tbh, I mean there is a Mercury Adept (water magic user in GS) that turns out to be a villain with Alex. Also you have all elements represented in your playable cast of characters in all 3 games.

I'll give you that the main antagonists you generally deal with in all games are Mars adepts. Even then though you find out that they weren't really evil but just trying to save Prox or the world in general or whatever. Admittedly this whole twist was poorly handled/thought out since they made Saturos and menardi a bit too shitty or sinister but that's a whole other can of worms.
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FabIemaster
05/21/20 1:29:39 PM
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HylianFox posted...
but it's also true of Golden Sun
What? Jupiter adepts are all over the place. In fact, there are less Venus Adepts than anything outside of Vale. Which is supposedly a secret village.

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Secretly
05/21/20 1:37:52 PM
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Golden Sun spoilers:

Alex (water) was actually the real villain. The Mars adepts were tricked into believing the lighthouses needed to be lit to save their people. Alex was having them do it to take the power of the Golden Sun for himself.
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cuttin_in_farm
05/21/20 1:40:19 PM
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Shaolin Showdown had the wind guy be the one to constantly do the betrayals.


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Trumpo
05/21/20 1:44:33 PM
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LoK spoilers

Kuvira/Dai Li
Korras Uncle

were shit individuals
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