Board 8 > Why do you guys hate Rivalry Rumble so much?

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Like, seriously, what makes it sooo bad?

It had a really cool and unique concept, it wasn't ruined by dumb rallies, it had funny entrants (Hitler, Great Mighty Poo...).

What. Is. So. Bad. About. It???

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how can I hate it if I don't know what the fuck that is

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Punnyz posted...

how can I hate it if I don't know what the fuck that is

it was a contest on this site how do you not know what it is
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what were the good matches or unpredictable results that were actually part of the contest itself

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I'll be honest

I seriously forgot there was a contest

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Most of the characters were really weak and unmemorable, and most of the match outcomes (including the inevitable winner) were highly predictable.

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LeonhartFour posted...

what were the good matches or unpredictable results that were actually part of the contest itself

This reasoning has always baffled me. Predictability makes a contest unfun? And it wasn't really as predictable as people made it to be in the first place. If you're referring to the actual winners of every match, then it was mildly predictable at worst, but I found it as unpredictable as any other contest.

As for the performances of each entrant, I found it shocking that Blazkowicz/Hitler didn't get quadrupled, Sora/Riku vs. Squall/Seifer not being one-sided in the least, Pokmon Trainers beasting beyond expectations, and of course, Scorpion/Sub-Zero obliterating Leon/Ada. Even the most debated match, Cloud/Seph vs. Link/Ganon, kept being debated until the very end.

And no, just because the Trainers vs. Cloud/Sephiroth had a 10-vote gap at the end doesn't automatically make it the "best match of the contest".

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Hitler should've won the whole contest
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Advokaiser posted...

This reasoning has always baffled me. Predictability makes a contest unfun? And it wasn't really as predictable as people made it to be in the first place. If you're referring to the actual winners of every match, then it was mildly predictable at worst, but I found it as unpredictable as any other contest.

The Crew got one match wrong all contest.

If a contest is going to be predictable, at least make up for it with exciting matches. I'm not all that interested in raw data from things we're never going to see again because it isn't useful for anything else.

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LeonhartFour posted...

If a contest is going to be predictable, at least make up for it with exciting matches.

Define "exciting".

Rallyable characters?
Unexpectedly close matches?
Unexpected blowouts?
Upsets?

I remember all of those.

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The only good match that year was a random bonus match.

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PostContestUlti posted...

The only good match that year was a random bonus match.

...But why?

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Advokaiser posted...

Define "exciting".

Rallyable characters?
Unexpectedly close matches?
Unexpected blowouts?
Upsets?

I remember all of those.

I don't remember those things being plural.

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Advokaiser posted...

...But why?

Because it actually checked off multiple of those boxes you just listed.

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Because for the most part, the rivalries just functioned as proxies for the heroes with a couple of exceptions, so it just thinned the field dramatically. Instead of having Bowser or Ganondorf or Magus or Zero as seperate entries from their heroes, they are effectively removed from the bracket by being chained to their rivals. This is then compounded by a lot of our upper midcarders being side characters that don't have rivalries, think your Yoshi, Tifa, Aeris, Vivi, Auron, Vincent, Zelda, etc, alongside characters that had multiple options for rivalries, so we got characters like Knuckles and Wario being snubbed to boot.

All the format really did was remove most of the debatable characters that usually end up being in the most interesting matches.

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Advokaiser posted...

And it wasn't really as predictable as people made it to be in the first place.

I only got one match wrong and finished in 4th place.

Also Ulti's right; the only good match was the one that didn't count. The closest match in the first two rounds was 55-45. Potential pairings like Mario vs Sonic deemed ineligible. Lots of forgettable fodder that we'd never see again.

Legit the worst contest for six years until the Best Year contest claimed the title.

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Yeah, there were very few truly interesting pairings. It was mostly protagonist/antagonist and some things that weren't really rivalries at all (Ramza/Delita is not a rivalry, darn it).

Mario/Sonic could've at least made the contest memorable.

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A huge problem was that it had annoying restrictions preventing the same characters from being represented multiple times. Most of the time we had Hero vs. Main Villain, so for example we couldn't also get Mario vs. Donkey Kong, Mario vs. Wario, Mario vs. Sonic, Mario vs. Luigi, Sonic vs. Shadow, Sonic vs. Knuckles, Snake vs. Big Boss etc. This could have made things harder to predict how much comes from the quality of the rivalry versus just the quality of the characters? Instead it was just "Character Battle but more boring".

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Most of the bracket wasn't actually rivalries.

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Imagine having a contests about gaming rivals and not allowing Mario vs. Sonic.

Imagine defending that as good.

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It was decent. I think it's just an easy target and fun to hate on so it gets exaggerated a bit.

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Gimmicky

Obvious outcomes

Waste of contest space

I think there enough debate before the bracket came out but when it seemed to just be an indirect series contest it got boring real quick.

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pjbasis posted...

I think there enough debate before the bracket came out but when it seemed to just be an indirect series contest it got boring real quick.

Exactly why we don't need a series contest or why it should be very low priority.

Pretty indifferent to it, fun idea for sure but in the end all I remember is the trainers tearing a huge hole in the bracket.

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I don't hate it.

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