Current Events > In April Texas had 3 days with 1000 new infections. In May theyve already had 12

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SK8T3R215 posted...

What? If you're barely testing and reporting these low numbers it does. Then it let's people make decisions to do things because they say "look our numbers are so low!" when they should instead be increasing tests to get a more accurate read of infections.

I'm pretty sure Texas had this issue when it was barely testing anyone last month(hence they had fewer than 1K cases most of the time) , and it's now testing more and has more confirmed cases. Now they are likely testing exponentially more people so the gross number of positives is much higher than before.

NY was testing and expanding testing so it was getting a much better picture of infections and compared to everywhere else a much higher number of confirmed cases. But they also had a much higher number of tests done so it makes more sense to see positives vs tests instead of "positives are very high now".

So you're saying if we didn't do testing at all, no one would be sick? Testing confirms cases. It doesn't create cases.

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well pretty clear the deaths are ok so i expect millions of americans to die because my liberties and freedoms are important meanwhile republicans will be in bunkers living

CADE FOSTER posted...

well pretty clear the deaths are ok so i expect millions of americans to die because my liberties and freedoms are important meanwhile republicans will be in bunkers living

*sigh*

Again with the "I only started caring about peoples deaths when a virus was involved"

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https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/texas

According to this graph, the number of tests didn't ramp up at all two weeks ago, so that's a moot point.

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It'll be ironic if a second wave comes and we're better off cause we don't give a fuck

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tremain07 posted...

It is what it is, people still have bills to pay and the world isn't a charity these people want their money so you have to work for your money because to stimulus checks are only going to the corporations and very few of the populace, especially now. Even more so that now it's become "these lazy takers just want the government to give them everything" narrative is being spun

Maybe people need to adapt and find a way to make money in the situation they're in. This is new for all of us. Government needs to do more but so do people.

CableZL posted...

No, people didn't move past "flatten the curve." The problem is that there are too many people who are claiming it's a hoax and refusing to follow instructions in the US for "flatten the curve" to mean anything.

Way too many people don't care or insist it's some government hoax until it happens to them or someone they care about and they end up in the hospital.

Ignoring the fact that "flatten the curve doesn't mean anything anymore" as an argument is exactly the same as "moving past it", for how long do you think Texas should stay closed if you're not using that as a metric anymore?

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CableZL posted...

So you're saying if we didn't do testing at all, no one would be sick? Testing confirms cases. It doesn't create cases.

P. sure the point is that higher testing = more accurate numbers (and can result in higher numbers as a result of confirmed cases). Has nothing to do with whether or not someone's sick.

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Unnecessary posted...

It'll be ironic if a second wave comes and we're better off cause we don't give a fuck

think its pretty fucking clear the gop is willing to risk everyones life except there own of course

s0nicfan posted...

Ignoring the fact that "flatten the curve doesn't mean anything anymore" as an argument is exactly the same as "moving past it", for how long do you think Texas should stay closed if you're not using that as a metric anymore?

No, it isn't, because there is still a need to flatten the curve.
CableZL posted...

The lockdown wasn't even supposed to last this f***ing long. It's incredibly frustrating.

CableZL posted...

Way too many people not following social distancing and quarantine instructions

Again, the only reason the lockdown has lasted this long AT ALL is because way too many people are being idiots in this country.


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CableZL posted...

No, it isn't, because there is still a need to flatten the curve.

So what do you propose? It sounds like your solution here is to wave a magic wand and change the entirety of American culture so that stupid people suddenly start taking this seriously.

For those of us living in reality who recognize that this isn't going to happen, you still need to reopen eventually. If hospitals are not over capacity, that still achieves the goals of flattening the curve, which was always to make sure that hospitals were not over capacity.



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CableZL posted...

So you're saying if we didn't do testing at all, no one would be sick? Testing confirms cases. It doesn't create cases.

I don't think you're reading my posts at this point.

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s0nicfan posted...

So what do you propose? It sounds like your solution here is to wave a magic wand and change the entirety of American culture so that stupid people suddenly start taking this seriously.

For those of us living in reality who recognize that this isn't going to happen, you still need to reopen eventually. If hospitals are not over capacity, that still achieves the goals of flattening the curve, which was always to make sure that hospitals were not over capacity.

I'm not claiming to have an answer. I don't have an answer. I'm just frustrated. The best solution was for people to follow instructions and collectively quarantine for 3 - 4 weeks so that we could move past this like South Korea did.

https://www.wptv.com/news/coronavirus/jupiter-man-skeptical-of-coronavirus-gets-infected-changes-opinion

A Jupiter man, who admits he was skeptical that the coronavirus was a real threat, has a new outlook after contracting the virus.
Around this time last month, Jupiter rideshare driver Brian Hitchens was a self-proclaimed COVID-19 skeptic.
I thought it was maybe the government trying something, and it was kind of like they threw it out there to kinda distract us, said Hitchens.
He made Facebook posts downplaying the seriousness and sticking to his faith, saying God is bigger than this virus will ever be.
I'd get up in the morning and pray and trust in God for his protection, and Id just leave it at that. There were all these masks and gloves. I thought it looks like a hysteria, Hitchens explained.
Fast forward to this week and Hitchens has a whole new outlook from his hospital bed at Palm Beach Gardens Medical Center as a coronavirus-positive patient.

While he was busy shouting at the sky about government hoaxes while being infected with COVID-19, there's no telling how many other people this idiot infected and put at risk.

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SK8T3R215 posted...

I don't think you're reading my posts at this point.

First of all, where are you even getting the idea that Texas was "barely doing any testing and started doing more testing in the past couple weeks?"

Again

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/texas

Look at the graph that specifically denotes "Daily infections and testing."

In Texas, testing has NOT ramped up in May. It has just been flat. Case counts per day are still increasing.

So please provide the data that you're basing your claim of "ramped up testing" on.

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They literally doubled their testing from mid April to May. Do you not see that large increase?

TC made this topic saying how infections were less than 1K for most of April (still around about 700 to 800). In May now he's saying they have over 1K positive most days. Even though they're now testing 2x as many people as before. And the positive tests in May have been flat.

Is this trolling?

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bmSMDd80Kgw
Literally nobody following social distancing RIP

Trumpo posted...

Literally nobody following social distancing RIP

most if not all of em will live but there's consequences for others.
immuno-compromised/elderly are screwed.
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SK8T3R215 posted...

They literally doubled their testing from mid April to May. Do you not see that large increase?

TC made this topic saying how infections were less than 1K for most of April (still around about 700 to 800). In May now he's saying they have over 1K positive most days. Even though they're now testing 2x as many people as before. And the positive tests in May have been flat.

Is this trolling?

The positive tests in may have been increasing, not flat.

May 1: 1043 new cases
May 10: 1179 new cases

What we're seeing is that the virus is still spreading faster and faster, just at a slower pace than what happened in NY. Texas doesn't have any cities where you have millions of people walking around each other all day in close quarters, nor is Texas as much of a hub for international travel as NYC is, so the spread is going to be much slower than what New York saw.

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MisterPorn posted...

So what exactly is the end point for those that want the shutdown to keep going? Are they aiming for rest of the year? Let's say you want things shut down at least another month. How are people going to pay their bills/food?

If we weren't going go shut down until things get better, then there was no point in shutting down in the first place. Should have just treated it like the sniffles then

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hockeybub89 posted...

If we weren't going go shut down until things get better, then there was no point in shutting down in the first place. Should have just treated it like the sniffles then

It doesn't make much sense to treat it like the sniffles because the case mortality rate is much higher than the flu. Many people, myself included, aren't wanting to put their parents, aunts, uncles, etc. at risk.

Again, I don't have an answer for what we should do at this point because this country has too many people who don't care until they're personally affected by it, but... That's where I'm at.

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CableZL posted...

The lockdown wasn't even supposed to last this fucking long. It's incredibly frustrating.

South Korea's daily COVID-19 cases:
* Competent government
* Vast majority of the population following social distancing and quarantine instructions
https://i.imgur.com/kdyrZNY.png

United States' daily COVID-19 cases:
* Incompetent government
* Way too many people not following social distancing and quarantine instructions
https://i.imgur.com/uP2uEyf.png

And even with the US's nationwide curve beginning to flatten, it's misleading because there are a lot of areas where the curve still hasn't flattened and case counts are still increasing.

Yeah our lockdown was ass.

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https://i.imgur.com/O2boOgD.png

Oh hey, the graph even lets you focus only on confirmed infections to remove the scale of the other lines.

Yeah, new cases in Texas has definitely NOT been flat in May. We actually saw a decrease when we were shut down and an increase after opening back up.

I really hope this shit doesn't get much worse.

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It's gonna be what it's gonna be

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I also think it's worth specifying that the increased testing in Texas in April did not seem to have an effect on the trend of increased cases, so I don't understand where this thinking that "If you're testing more, you're obviously going to find more cases" came from.

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Unnecessary posted...

It's gonna be what it's gonna be

It didn't have to be if people stay home

There's no good path forward here.

Stay shutdown: no one works, they can't afford bills => economic depression

Re-open: everyone gets sick, hospitals are overwhelmed, people can't work sick, lose their jobs, they can't afford bills => economic depression

Government bailouts: already spent budgeted money propping up industry to prevent collapse of stock market

In short, it's over for America-cels. We had a good run as a nation but all it took was this pandemic to end it.

gg wp no re

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We have enough bilionaires living here that if they actually cared about their fellow countrymen could help us out in this unprecedented time of crisis, but alas they're all greedy and selfish. Like dragons sleeping on their piles of gold.

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Gyms reopened today. Bars open back up on Friday.
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I really miss doing crossfit, but there's no way in hell I'm going to a gym any time soon.

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CableZL posted...

I really miss doing crossfit, but there's no way in hell I'm going to a gym any time soon.

I went today. Barely 5% capacity lol.

I was one of the very few wearing a mask and gloves, aside from the workers.
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Why do people who want to reopen asap (plenty of them itt...) only have the goal of not overwhelming the hospitals but dont give a single shit about how many lives are lost and ruined? Shouldnt you strive to be better?

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Rika_Furude posted...

Why do people who want to reopen asap (plenty of them itt...) only have the goal of not overwhelming the hospitals but dont give a single shit about how many lives are lost and ruined? Shouldnt you strive to be better?

They don't care. They need to sit at a bar and eat onion rings

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

I went today. Barely 5% capacity lol.

I was one of the very few wearing a mask and gloves, aside from the workers.

There's also no way in hell I'm going to do crossfit while wearing a mask

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CableZL posted...

There's also no way in hell I'm going to do crossfit while wearing a mask

I take it off in the middle of a workout, but reapply it when moving around.

I think it's encouraging not seeing many people getting out, still. Fuck the governor and his clown ass oil tycoon piece of shit scum of the earth trying to expedite deaths just so their profit margin suffers a tiny bit less.
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

I take it off in the middle of a workout, but reapply it when moving around.

I think it's encouraging not seeing many people getting out, still. f*** the governor and his clown ass oil tycoon piece of s*** scum of the earth trying to expedite deaths just so their profit margin suffers a tiny bit less.

I'm pretty much always moving around in a crossfit workout, though. A mask also reduces how much oxygen you're breathing in which would only make doing an intense workout way harder.

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That Georgia topic made me want to look at how Texas is doing.


https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/texas

Georgia actually seems to be slowly but surely improving but Texas isn't having the same luck. I haven't looked at every state yet but so far they seem to be one the worst at fighting this. Alabama, Illinois, Arizona, and Minnesota seem to be in the running for states doing the worst against this virus. Shockingly Florida is doing alright.

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^Georgia had lied about their "improvement" and the governor had to apologize.
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