Current Events > Korra season 4 first impressions. Spoilers

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So... The air nation as basically a team of super heroes that fly around helping people? That's... pretty adorable. Seeing Kai and Opal in their uniform was cute, and I love how Kai seems to have matured and is all hero like now.

Not sure about this kuvira person, I mean is she Gonna be the villain of this season? A conflict between the incompetent Prince wu wanting to be king and her wanting to rule? I wonder if the season's gonna be like real life conflicts of former kings losing the throne to dictators who initially have the support of the people in their attempt to unite the country under their iron fist. And she literally has control of the iron/metal to boot.

Ugh Korra is in an underground fighting ring? So I guess the 3 years does nothing, she'll always be the rash impetuous person no matter what.

Never been a fan of timeskips but I think it may be needed for this show and interested in where it's going to go.

why are you watching this. korra as a whole is so bad.

and i say this as an avid atla fan.

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But it's the last season, so if it's going to be a downer ending like the 3 previous seasons I'm gonna be so upset I watched this sequel to avatar.

The ending is just... Controversial

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Korra is so very different from Aang. She never seems to really mature. None of her ensemble cast do. They're the same at the beginning as the end, despite the road bumps they face along the way.

Pretty disappointing tbh.

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Blue_Dream87 posted...

The ending is just... Controversial

it was just dumb. im fine with her being gay but it came out of no where. but i doubt they could even tell that story even if they could cuz the writing was so dumb.

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Mezcla posted...

it was just dumb. im fine with her being gay but it came out of no where. but i doubt they could even tell that story even if they could cuz the writing was so dumb.

it didn't come out of nowhere. It was hinted in s3 iirc but s4 was littered from the beginning with signs. It's just a kids show so none of us expected that to actually become a thing

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just because something is foreshadowed doesn't mean its not dumb.

see: fucking game of thrones aw man i made myself sad

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Cant wait to read those spoilers. Anyway thankfully they didn't spend too much time on her underground fighting ring thing. I guess she still needs to "find herself" or whatever.

Really feel sorry for her. Impatience aside, she's probably been put through the ringer worse than most avatars.

Mezcla posted...

korra as a whole is so bad.

Wow, sorry you hated it. Other than S2, I loved Korra only slightly less than Avatar: The Last Airbender.

bloodyarts posted...

Wow, sorry you hated it. Other than S2, I loved Korra only slightly less than Avatar: The Last Airbender.

Same. The villains in Korra are better than Last Airbender.

The second episode of season 4 is probable my favorite of the bunch

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I see a lot of dislike for season four, but I enjoyed it. There is one thing that's super weird though and I can almost guarantee you'll immediately know what I'm talking about when you get there.

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Holy crap it's toph! Now we've seen all the original gang! Well, the ones still alive.

Mezcla posted...

just because something is foreshadowed doesn't mean its not dumb.

see: fucking game of thrones aw man i made myself sad

You said it came out of nowhere. It didn't. The fact that it was foreshadowed means it didn't come out of nowhere.

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Chicken_Butt posted...

Korra is so very different from Aang. She never seems to really mature.

Is this a joke post?

Korra was tossing dudes throw stores in season 1 and roughing up protestors. She does mature. She just keeps her personality. Like actual people.

And as mentioned, she deals with much more shit than other Avatars. Aang gets bailed out whenever he has to make any kind of hard choice.

Korra becomes a wheelchair bound, avatar connectionless bystander. When up to that point, her main sense of self worth was Im the avatar!.

Lord forbid shes in a stink for 3 years.

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Season 4 isnt as good as s3 but isnt as bas as 2

3 > 1 >4>2

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Chicken_Butt posted...

Korra is so very different from Aang. She never seems to really mature.

Pretty bad take. *Series Finale Spoilers* The end of the series has her deliberately sparing the life of the Avatarverse's Hitler equivalent, not because it's simply 'the right thing to do,' but because Korra gained enough perspective and empathy through her years of paralysis and depression that she could understand why Kuvira was driven to such drastic ends.

I can understand that LoK failed to live up to expectations after TLA and left a lot of people disappointed, but that's no excuse to deliberately ignore the development that's presented in the show.

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Total_Lost2 posted...

The second episode of season 4 is probable my favorite of the bunch

While I might rank LoK's Book 3 finale and a couple choice TLA eps over it, 'Korra Alone' actually helped me come to grips with my own depression, as I was able to recognize Korra's behavior and responses being hauntingly similar to my own. Very few pieces of media have ever had that profound of an effect on me.

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korra was never going to top airbender because of the respective scales. People just gotta get over it already and appreciate it for what it is, because its still spectacular.

For what its worth, I actually liked Korra and the gangs character development from season to season. They feel like growing people. The end of the series was beautifully done

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Tenzin sending his kids to find Korra? That's terribly irresponsible what the heck, even if they are air benders. Jinora at best looks as old as Aang was (already too young) and the rest are barely above being toddlers.

They tried to play off ikki being captured as comedic but it was a lot scarier to me.

This show keeps making me guess wrong. When toph said there was still metal poison inside Korra I thought she just said that as a placebo and that Korra's recovery was all in her head, she needed to choose to get better. I was half right but it turns out there was leftover metal that Su and Lin missed. Huh.

I kind of thought it was interesting how the show/toph decided to describe the villains of each previous season:

Amon = equality for all

Unalaq = spirits

Zaheer = freedom

I mean... that was an interesting take.

I was unsure of kuvira but her threatening an uncharacteristically moral concscious Varrick crosses the moral event horizon for me.

Mezcla posted...

it was just dumb. im fine with her being gay but it came out of no where. but i doubt they could even tell that story even if they could cuz the writing was so dumb.

It definitely didn't feel like they built up to it enough but I didn't care that much. Going on vacation or whatever to the spirit realm made the ending feel really silly though

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Amenadeel posted...

I was unsure of kuvira but her threatening an uncharacteristically moral concscious Varrick crosses the moral event horizon for me.

I thought the show was kind of clever in how they presented Kuvira. In the first few episodes, you only see her doing good. She stops bandits and offers them work instead of punishment. She gives food and protection to a village. She's brought the lawless Earth Kingdom under control. Sure, you keep hearing about the terrible things she's doing and she has a bad attitude, but she gets results.

I think the intent was to show how people like her come into power and how even good people like Bolin or Varrick can be fooled by them.

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Funny how you mention Varrick as "good people"

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He is in this season.

I think Varrick is basically retconned at a certain point.

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Mezcla posted...

why are you watching this. korra as a whole is so bad.

and i say this as an avid atla fan.

ITP: Why do people like what I don't like.

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pegusus123456 posted...

He is in this season.

I think Varrick is basically retconned at a certain point.

It's not really a retcon, just character growth. Even at his worst in S2, he's just greedy and manipulative; blowing up his own building to incite division, and framing Mako for the crime, both of which he's remorseful for (in his own comic-relief way) a few episodes later. When he officially switches to the good guy team in S4, it's not really out of character that he would have a pang of conscience (or at least pragmatism) over realizing that he's taking his Science! too far.

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He tried to further escalate a civil war to profit from it...That's pretty ****y and goes way beyond greedy. And it's been a while since I've seen season 2, but didn't he also try to assassinate or kidnap Raiko?

Now, don't get me wrong, he's a great character, but good? Really?

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Oh. Ohhhhhh. Now I get all the Asami and Korra shipping that I was aware of before I even knew what avatar was. Was so confused back in season 1 since they were romantic rivals for Mako but as of episode 7 now I get it. I guess it was the only way to keep Asami relevant because honestly as sweet and kind and helpful as she is, she doesn't... add much to the show. The fact that she wasn't a villain really threw me for a while.

They started the hints in season 3.

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I wonder if zu li for real betrayed varrick and is gonna work for kuvira or has a plan.

I think kuvira's ego is gonna lead to her hubris. She loves hearing people swear loyalty to her. It would be the best way to manipulate her.

It's really frustrating to see korra massively nerfed like that. Her physical strength was kinda the most she had to offer... raava knows she doesn't have much in the way of ingenuity.

Weird that they made a clipshow type episode... in when was it, 2014? That's bizarre. Especially considering Korra seasons are like half that of the original series.

The worst part is they clipshow like, the most annoying thing about Korra/season 1, the damn love triangle nonsense lol.

But that last bit was worth it. Varrick as usual saves this episode with his hilarity. I usually like creative ways to show clipshows and Varrick is just that. The 3-way phone call between vaatu and zaheer and Amon was the most I've ever laughed. And then when they added in unalaq who they all hate lol, so cheeky that the writers were aware of the fact that unalaq/season 2 was unpopular.

The clip show was because Nickelodeon slashed their budget by the cost of an episode. They had the choice to do a clip show or lay off some of the staff.

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Vaatu holding and talking into that old timey phone lol... I can't even fathom some posts itt disliking Varrick. Like another user said, he basically makes up for bolin's shortcomings as a sokka replacement.

Oh, if it's me you're talking about, I do like Varrick. I just see S2 and S4 Varrick as completely different characters.

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Varrick is the only character on the show that I liked

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pegusus123456 posted...

The clip show was because Nickelodeon slashed their budget by the cost of an episode. They had the choice to do a clip show or lay off some of the staff.

Wow for real? I know Nickelodeon gave them a chance with the original series but I wonder what things would be like if they went to Disney. Though I'm just thinking of the endless money Disney has and not the fact that they're pretty terrible with this kind of stuff.

I meant the other guy but yeah they do make Varrick a bit too goody goody especially when he says he won't build that [nuclear bomb analogy] for kuvira. If he prefaced it with a line about liking war as good for business it would be in character, and maybe a line about something this destructive is NOT good for business. You can still do good things without being full-blown noble and whatnot.

But I don't even care because I love the guy so much. Even back in s2 when he threw Mako in jail (meh who can blame him) and tried to steal Asami's company (admittedly the more evil thing he did which I didn't like) I still didn't hate him like I hate say, kuvira. The guy is just so great

Wow zaheer. Wow was that a look of... regret/sorrow? I bet it's not because he killed the earth queen which he doesn't regret, but rather because an evil dictator gained power. Would be nice for him to acknowledge that and that his ideology isn't 100% right or even doable. I bet if he got out of prison he'd do it all over again, and has learned nothing.

Zaheer mentioned that they could have taught Korra so much if Unalaq had successfully captured her when she was young. Would they have still killed her afterwards if she was raised by the Red Lotus?

I don't think so. I think it was very much a case of "we can't use it so no one can."

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I like that they try to make Kuvira into a three dimensional character, but she's basically a three dimensional character in a saturday morning cartoon villain kind of way. She could've been more interesting, but they went with the cliched of "lets make her a female hitler". It's weird because Zaheer was a one dimensional villain, yet I still liked him more than the other villains that showed more dimensions than him. I fee like a hypocrite now lol.

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Prestoff posted...

I like that they try to make Kuvira into a three dimensional character, but she's basically a three dimensional character in a saturday morning cartoon villain kind of way. She could've been more interesting, but they went with the cliched of "lets make her a female hitler". It's weird because Zaheer was a one dimensional villain, yet I still liked him more than the other villains that showed more dimensions than him. I fee like a hypocrite now lol.

To be fair, Zaheer is the best villain in the Avatar series

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Non-Benders should have been the main threat throughout TLoK's run. Save the spiritual journey for Korra's successor since their setting would be modern day when a lot of people have lost faith in old religion.

Alternate Book 2
Noatok becomes a martyr. Amon's Lieutenant leads the Equalists. Experimental weapons are created to combat benders. The eventual creation of guns spark the war between benders and non benders.

Alternate Book 3
The climax. Haven't thought this far ahead. Maybe a surprise villain takes up the mantle of Amon. Anyway... a significant change to this alternate universe is the airbenders are not magically repopulated. Would have been interesting to see how Aang's endangered descendants do throughout the generations.

sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

Amon's Lieutenant leads the Equalists

I'm not sure "dude with a backpack and a mustache" is who we should be basing a season around tbh

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pegusus123456 posted...

I'm not sure "dude with a backpack and a mustache" is who we should be basing a season around tbh

Fleshing out his character may have changed your mind just as it did for Zuko, I'm sure.

Besides, I never said he had to be the main villain. I've wondered if he would find someone to lead the army he commands.