Poll of the Day > If the lockdown is extended can someone explain to me

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1. Who is gonna grow your food
2. Who is gonna make you sundries.
3. Who is gonna transport your food.
4. Who is gonna be making money to pay taxes so that there is oversight of 1-3.

I mean if they hypothetically close down everything thats non essential how do we determine who risk there lives to be essential personel like gamestop cashier or old woman in a yellow vest infront of walmart!.

Heck if you can get fired from bk where you were pulling in 200 bi weekly to 760 weekly why do people work?

I dont see how people think this quarentine needs to last. It just seems that our kids would inherit a world broken by boomers with an economy that is more wrecked than it is now

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ScritchOwl posted...

Who is gonna grow your food
2. Who is gonna make you sundries.
3. Who is gonna transport your food.

Farmers and drivers can maintain distance, this isn't a concern.

ScritchOwl posted...

4. Who is gonna be making money to pay taxes so that there is oversight of 1-3.

The farmers, drivers and supermarkets. Because nobody should be out using resources government spending is severely reduced, this means those who are working cover their share.

ScritchOwl posted...

I mean if they hypothetically close down everything thats non essential how do we determine who risk there lives to be essential personel like gamestop cashier or old woman in a yellow vest infront of walmart!.

Food, power, water, law enforcement.

ScritchOwl posted...

Heck if you can get fired from bk where you were pulling in 200 bi weekly to 760 weekly why do people work?

Because people like things.

ScritchOwl posted...

I dont see how people think this quarentine needs to last. It just seems that our kids would inherit a world broken by boomers with an economy that is more wrecked than it is now

Dead men never work again; they are a bigger waste of resources than temporarily furloughed men.
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It just seems there is no good way out. I mean some cities are having problems without receiving fees from traffic violations. Some states are getting fined by the private owned prisons for not giving the enough prisoners and thats before the virus with crime rates down just think of that money leaving your states coffers and going to some board congradulating themselves on punishing a state for not making criminals

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The fact that those are problems mean the state is fucking shit to begin with.

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lockdown is an entirely urban problem... rural areas have too low of a pop density and can open freely

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Farmers and drivers can maintain distance, this isn't a concern.

Not quite this is part of the reason the meat industry is being placed under the defense production act. These conditions arent just one man on a tractor. Farms usually have to hire many people especially for the harvest. L

The farmers, drivers and supermarkets. Because nobody should be out using resources government spending is severely reduced, this means those who are working cover their share.

Wow so walmart increased its payroll from 2 mil to 329 mil. Yeah that is not economically feesable. Yes this is hyperbole of a situation but your expecting these companies to pay increased taxes to supplement the stimulus and unemployment wages?

Food, power, water, law enforcement.

If law enforcement hows up to a tyson plant telling them to get to work yeah you hought the chicago riots of 1919 were bad sheesh

Because people like things.

Yeah and they can afford them easier sitting on the butts defending the quarentine getting an extra 1100 every two weeks

Dead men never work again; they are a bigger waste of resources than temporarily furloughed men.

And an army marches on its stomach. If you cant feed your people then you have lost control. If things collapse how long do you think it will take to mae things get better. You should read the grapes of wrath to see how a failure in goverment affects the working man.

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VeeVees posted...

The fact that those are problems mean the state is fucking shit to begin with.

Extremely true.

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10 years forward, this will be a very different world that the one we know. How? I don't know.

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Honestly where do all these new people keep crawling out from

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Zacek posted...

10 years forward, this will be a very different world that the one we know. How? I don't know.

Well austrailia, germany and trump have all shown interest in trying to bill china. China has already threatened Australia this is the first one in google and yes its biased but news isn't non biased in todays world https://thehill.com/policy/international/494860-china-threatens-economic-consequences-if-australia-launches

China will probably go to war or get targeted with terrorism like the usa did on 9/11 due to the questionable politics including the racial things. Who knows whats gonna happen to american politics. And heck North Korea is going to get a female president before the US

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ScritchOwl posted...

It just seems there is no good way out. I mean some cities are having problems without receiving fees from traffic violations. Some states are getting fined by the private owned prisons for not giving the enough prisoners and thats before the virus with crime rates down just think of that money leaving your states coffers and going to some board congradulating themselves on punishing a state for not making criminals

Sounds like federal government hasn't been working for long before the pandemic, this is just a leak test.

ScritchOwl posted...

Not quite this is part of the reason the meat industry is being placed under the defense production act. These conditions arent just one man on a tractor. Farms usually have to hire many people especially for the harvest. L

I'm not a 'murican so idk what protection rackets your country runs.

ScritchOwl posted...

Wow so walmart increased its payroll from 2 mil to 329 mil. Yeah that is not economically feesable. Yes this is hyperbole of a situation but your expecting these companies to pay increased taxes to supplement the stimulus and unemployment wages?

I expect them to pay the same rate and the government to reduce spending to account for lack of surplus income i.e. send troops home, don't buy more fighter jets, etc.

ScritchOwl posted...

If law enforcement hows up to a tyson plant telling them to get to work yeah you hought the chicago riots of 1919 were bad sheesh

Are you a bot? English is more than a string of English words and strings from scraped media in random orders.

ScritchOwl posted...

Yeah and they can afford them easier sitting on the butts defending the quarentine getting an extra 1100 every two weeks

You can get more things in 2 weeks with more than $1100. Living on $1100 and not being able to go out is miserable.

ScritchOwl posted...

And an army marches on its stomach. If you cant feed your people then you have lost control. If things collapse how long do you think it will take to mae things get better. You should read the grapes of wrath to see how a failure in goverment affects the working man.

Good thing we have enough resources to feed the people until the virus dies out. Unless people keep breaking quarantine to keep it circulating.
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@Kyuubi4269 wow troll fail much. I am sorry but the response you provided clearly are of an edgelord still suckling from there mothers paps. The fact that you had to bring grammar up shows a definite flailing for a way to win. So rather than put you down which honestly would just be packing the hole your in with feces to get you out of it I will choose to educate you

Over a hundred years ago in the magical land of merica as you put it. White people picked a fight with people of darker skin tones this led to mass rioting. The police tried to supress it bt things got bad.. if the government tries to coerce people into critical jobs at the risk of there lives it would be far worse country wide. If you need further reading please take a gander to the wiki page

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_race_riot_of_1919

Also troll someone else im not interested

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@ScritchOwl That wasn't nitpicking, I legitimately couldn't understand anything you wrote there.

How have race riots got anything to do with pacing out a pandemic? Even with a coherent sentence structure you've failed to express anything coherent.
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Services make up 70-75% of US GDP, manufacturing most of the rest, and agriculture about 1%. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States]

A decent amount of the service sector can work from home and make sales online, even if it's less productive. If you look at Europe, where countries have been locked down for 6 weeks, the retail sector is the most negatively affected because people can't go anywhere to buy things, but people can still buy online. Manufacturing and agricultural jobs have still gone to work, and so have a lot of services where the work can't be done remotely, like the postal service or pharmacies.

Lockdown has significantly reduced consumer demand, but people still need to buy things. We will have to manage the debt from the current deficit we're running after the virus, which will be difficult but manageable. The economic hit from this is significant, but it isn't world-ending.

It's manageable to continue lockdown for the next few weeks, even months, and much better to do that than lose hundreds of thousands of lives unnecessarily.

Shark8637 posted...

Services make up 70-75% of US GDP, manufacturing most of the rest, and agriculture about 1%. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States]

A decent amount of the service sector can work from home and make sales online, even if it's less productive. If you look at Europe, where countries have been locked down for 6 weeks, the retail sector is the most negatively affected because people can't go anywhere to buy things, but people can still buy online. Manufacturing and agricultural jobs have still gone to work, and so have a lot of services where the work can't be done remotely, like the postal service or pharmacies.

Lockdown has significantly reduced consumer demand, but people still need to buy things. We will have to manage the debt from the current deficit we're running after the virus, which will be difficult but manageable. The economic hit from this is significant, but it isn't world-ending.

It's manageable to continue lockdown for the next few weeks, even months, and much better to do that than lose hundreds of thousands of lives unnecessarily.

Yes bit your looking a gdp and not jobs filled. When the income is loss for those individuals that make up the stepping stones of the economy they will not have survivable income and it will turn nasty. Because unfortunately the only ones that are truly uneffected by lockdowns and quarentines are gonna be the white/asian businessmen. The result is a very foreseeable class war where people who make 10.95 an hour are having to risk there lives to maintain the infrastructure for those wo work from the safety of their home.

How many walmart employees are there for each service job, gas station attendants, mechanics, teachers, fast food servers, hygeine stylist, lpns, scrub techs, contacters, the list goes on but the point I am makeing is that the services are towards the top of the beriod and the problem is the lockdowns make the bse crumble. I'm not saying that the pyramid will topple but with the erosion those service jobs are gonna start disappearing and states are already feeling a financial hurt to the point they are considering bankruptcy.

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ScritchOwl posted...

@Kyuubi4269 wow troll fail much. I am sorry but the response you provided clearly are of an edgelord still suckling from there mothers paps.

This is almost sigworthy

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