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DevsBro
04/27/20 11:27:20 PM
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It was a B2G1 and this was the only game in the store cheaper than NSMB1, lol.

What to expect?

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Zack_Attackv1
04/27/20 11:30:18 PM
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DevsBro
04/27/20 11:32:59 PM
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Man that was one cheaply-made intro video.

It also says a lot that I've been maiming Sony since the PS1 and still have no idea who probably more than half of these characters are.

But hey, having Spike from Ape Escape is worth at least half of the cast sucking. At least, on paper.

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MachineJaipur
04/27/20 11:34:00 PM
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Was TC at a gamestop?
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ChuckSDeuces
04/27/20 11:35:42 PM
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Jesus Christ that was such a shitty cash grab

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IfGodCouldDie
04/27/20 11:37:23 PM
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I loved it. It was a lot of fun.

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boxington
04/27/20 11:39:05 PM
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I enjoyed the game, and while the combo system can make it feel like a decent-ish fighting game, you can only beat your opponents by using specials, so keep that in mind.

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DevsBro
04/28/20 12:09:31 AM
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lol the whole game is cheaply made.

I kinda like the mechanics though. A little weird but I like how it evens out for people who just try to hang out doing nothing in order to survive.

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IfGodCouldDie
04/28/20 12:10:25 AM
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What would you consider cheaply made about it.

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Lost_All_Senses
04/28/20 12:18:23 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
I loved it. It was a lot of fun.

This. Especially since I had people to come over and played it with me. There were some fun times.

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Tyranthraxus
04/28/20 12:21:26 AM
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Honestly it's a lot of fun but the characters are stupid and no one cares about most of them.

The biggest problem is that it really shows how weak the Sony first party library is.

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IfGodCouldDie
04/28/20 12:23:54 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Honestly it's a lot of fun but the characters are stupid and no one cares about most of them.

The biggest problem is that it really shows how weak the Sony first party library is.
Like who?

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AlisLandale
04/28/20 12:24:59 AM
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Just play as Kat and ignore the rest of the roster

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Tyranthraxus
04/28/20 12:25:28 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
Like who?
I'm just saying if your idea of a good roster contains Evil Cole it means the bottom of the barrel has been dug out and you're scraping the Earth's mantle.

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boxington
04/28/20 12:26:32 AM
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I haven't played in years, but Heihachi was my boy.

dude was handing out naps.

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MarshallStack
04/28/20 12:35:07 AM
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Oh right the Smash clone with a bunch of characters nobody cares about and no Tomba

i didnt even like Smash to begin with and what is this

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MorganTJ
04/28/20 12:40:21 AM
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The biggest mistake was super-only kills to differentiate from Smash. I feel like the platform fighter genre would be interesting if they incorporated supers (not like final smashes, more like from traditional fighters) into the game. Unfortunately all the Smash clones don't want to deviate too far from what they already know.
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IfGodCouldDie
04/28/20 12:50:07 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I'm just saying if your idea of a good roster contains Evil Cole it means the bottom of the barrel has been dug out and you're scraping the Earth's mantle.
So you didn't like Infamous?

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IfGodCouldDie
04/28/20 12:51:16 AM
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MorganTJ posted...
The biggest mistake was super-only kills to differentiate from Smash. I feel like the platform fighter genre would be interesting if they incorporated supers (not like final smashes, more like from traditional fighters) into the game. Unfortunately all the Smash clones don't want to deviate too far from what they already know.
Honestly, I didnt mind it.

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HylianFox
04/28/20 1:06:05 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Honestly it's a lot of fun but the characters are stupid and no one cares about most of them.

The biggest problem is that it really shows how weak the Sony first party library is.

eh, to be fair a lot of characters in SSB are hardly relevant

why Nintendo refuses to make new Mother or F-Zero games and yet continue to include them in SSB is beyond me

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MachineJaipur
04/28/20 1:08:39 AM
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HylianFox posted...
eh, to be fair a lot of characters in SSB are hardly relevant

why Nintendo refuses to make new Mother or F-Zero games and yet continue to include them in SSB is beyond me
Easier to include them in ssb than to make the fan base mad or to make another game in the series
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The Nintendo Master
04/28/20 1:09:53 AM
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The super kills mechanic just didn't work out, you'd have some characters whose supers were a guaranteed 3 kills and that was it, but then you'd have characters that could get like 7 kills on a single super. Certain characters could charge their supers way too fast with minimal moves, and it just wasn't as fun as Super Smash Bros. I still got Platinum on it and all that, but it just died really fast.

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Touch
04/28/20 1:10:07 AM
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I just remember Kratos stomping

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DevsBro
04/28/20 1:11:34 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
What would you consider cheaply made about it.
Small roster
Slideshow intros/outros
Final boss is literally a ball of spikes
Underwhelming graphics

But it's still kinda fun, really.

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HylianFox
04/28/20 1:12:04 AM
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Before SSB how many people even knew who Captain Falcon or Ness were?

And it amuses me that Marth and Roy were nearly cut from the English version of Melee, and now people complain that there are too many FE reps (although it's really more an issue of the samey-ness of the reps, tbqh)

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SMAP-
04/28/20 1:35:30 AM
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DevsBro posted...
Final boss is literally a ball of spikes

there's a lot of valid complaints about the game but making the final boss playstations forgotten creepy first mascot was genius

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kuwab0
04/28/20 1:37:26 AM
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Tyranthraxus
04/28/20 1:55:02 AM
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HylianFox posted...
eh, to be fair a lot of characters in SSB are hardly relevant

why Nintendo refuses to make new Mother or F-Zero games and yet continue to include them in SSB is beyond me

There's definitely some weird inclusions but overall the roster is very strong.

If I could just dream pick PSASBR cast of, let's say 30 characters, licences be damned, here's what I would have done. (Let's restrict to can't be in Smash, and not owned by Microsoft). Preference given to Sony first party where possible. Also had to be on a Sony console, and nothing so new it wouldn't make sense (like Aloy). Also 1 character per franchise.

  1. Crash Bandicoot
  2. Spyro
  3. Ratchet & Clank
  4. Jak
  5. Sly Cooper
  6. Dart (LoD)
  7. Kratos
  8. Kat
  9. Heihachi Mishima
  10. Dante
  11. Cole
  12. Ezio Auditore
  13. Nathan Drake
  14. KOS-MOS
  15. Monster Hunter
  16. Wander (SotC)
  17. Harry Mason
  18. Jill Valentine
  19. Saber (Artoria Pendragon)
  20. Rudy (Wild ARMs)
  21. Lara Croft
  22. Kain
  23. Artorias the Abysswalker
  24. Rayman
  25. Fei Fong Wong
  26. Alundra
  27. Sackboy
  28. Nariko (where the fuck is HS2, Sony?)
  29. Lilith (Borderlands)
  30. Gabriel Logan



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DevsBro
04/28/20 2:54:24 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
There's definitely some weird inclusions but overall the roster is very strong.

If I could just dream pick PSASBR cast of, let's say 30 characters, licences be damned, here's what I would have done. (Let's restrict to can't be in Smash, and not owned by Microsoft). Preference given to Sony first party where possible. Also had to be on a Sony console, and nothing so new it wouldn't make sense (like Aloy). Also 1 character per franchise.

1. Crash Bandicoot
2. Spyro
3. Ratchet & Clank
4. Jak
5. Sly Cooper
6. Dart (LoD)
7. Kratos
8. Kat
9. Heihachi Mishima
10. Dante
11. Cole
12. Ezio Auditore
13. Nathan Drake
14. KOS-MOS
15. Monster Hunter
16. Wander (SotC)
17. Harry Mason
18. Jill Valentine
19. Saber (Artoria Pendragon)
20. Rudy (Wild ARMs)
21. Lara Croft
22. Kain
23. Artorias the Abysswalker
24. Rayman
25. Fei Fong Wong
26. Alundra
27. Sackboy
28. Nariko (where the fuck is HS2, Sony?)
29. Lilith (Borderlands)
30. Gabriel Logan
Considering PSASBR came before Smash Bros 4, I would allow Cloud too.

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Wetterdew
04/28/20 3:11:07 AM
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HylianFox posted...
eh, to be fair a lot of characters in SSB are hardly relevant

why Nintendo refuses to make new Mother or F-Zero games and yet continue to include them in SSB is beyond me
SSB includes characters for various reasons

-Some exist purely to honor their legacy, even if the franchise is dead or the character is currently unused (Duck Hunt, Ice Climbers, Ness/Lucas, Captain Falcon, King K Rool, etc.)
-Some exist to represent new/active franchises because people are interested in the characters (new Pokemon, or Splatoon,
-Some get added because of strong fan demand (Ridley)
-Some exist just to advertise a video game (like half the Fire Emblem characters tbh)
-Some exist because they're silly and it tickles Sakurai's fancy to put silly things like Wii Fit Trainer or a piranha plant into the game (though WFT also represents a big part of Nintendo's casual gamer stint)

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Darmik
04/28/20 3:20:47 AM
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DevsBro posted...
Small roster
Slideshow intros/outros
Final boss is literally a ball of spikes
Underwhelming graphics

But it's still kinda fun, really.

Don't forget the PowerPoint slide tier menu backgrounds.

A large part of Smash's appeal is how fan service is just everywhere.

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Garioshi
04/28/20 3:22:45 AM
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It's shit. Tries to be Smash, but it's lazy about it.

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Sphyx
04/28/20 4:39:47 AM
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I had some fun with it for a while (free on PSN), but i was never a fan of that type of game anyway.
A game being a cash-in doesn't necessarily mean there's no fun to be had.

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Lorenzo_2003
04/28/20 4:55:12 AM
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I enjoyed PS All-Stars for a bit, mainly because it was colorful and flashy and I didnt take it seriously. The supers werent that balanced, but thats Ok for a party game.

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IfGodCouldDie
04/28/20 1:30:23 PM
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The Nintendo Master posted...
The super kills mechanic just didn't work out, you'd have some characters whose supers were a guaranteed 3 kills and that was it, but then you'd have characters that could get like 7 kills on a single super. Certain characters could charge their supers way too fast with minimal moves, and it just wasn't as fun as Super Smash Bros. I still got Platinum on it and all that, but it just died really fast.
I'm not saying it was perfectly balanced, and with tweaks it could have gotten better. I just liked the idea of finishers being how you get kills.

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Tyranthraxus
04/28/20 1:38:12 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
I'm not saying it was perfectly balanced, and with tweaks it could have gotten better. I just liked the idea of finishers being how you get kills.

The problem was mostly the level 3 supers. If it was restricted to just level 1 supers it would be fairly balanced.

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Prismsblade
04/28/20 1:38:26 PM
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I put in hundreds of hours into the game. And despite how unbalanced the game was it was still kinda fun in a cosmic sorta way. All fights being 4 mans or 2v2, gave opportunity for even lower tier characters to win. And most characters even if they weren't top tier had a few abusable and OP perks that allowed them to semi compete.

But the more time went on, and the more devs tried to balance the game the worse it got strangely enough. Some characters by sheer game mechanics and moveset design like sweet tooth were functionally inferior to characters like the Coles, or Raiden.

And once Kat was released despite how broken raiden and Kratos, she outright broke the game. Even Sackboy and Sly at their peaks wasnt as crazy as her.

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The_Yahtz09
04/28/20 1:46:10 PM
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I enjoyed it, but you can include me in the group disliking that kills were super only.

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markconigliaro
04/28/20 1:47:37 PM
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The Nintendo Master posted...
The super kills mechanic just didn't work out, you'd have some characters whose supers were a guaranteed 3 kills and that was it, but then you'd have characters that could get like 7 kills on a single super. Certain characters could charge their supers way too fast with minimal moves, and it just wasn't as fun as Super Smash Bros. I still got Platinum on it and all that, but it just died really fast.

That was my main problem with it. Supers would have been ok, but they were so unbalanced. I forgot which character it was, but I liked playing with them but I couldn't win games because their supers were bad.

There's one thing they did great and I wish Smash would take from it, crossover stages. It was cool where you'd be on a Ratchet and Clank level, but then God of War monsters would come out of the background and become stage hazards.

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Garioshi
04/28/20 3:01:17 PM
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The_Yahtz09 posted...
I enjoyed it, but you can include me in the group disliking that kills were super only.
Only supers kill, so they can make each move have set knockback. Don't have to worry about damage or knockback scaling, don't have to worry about balancing, don't have to worry about recovery moves.. It's lazy as fuck.

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