Current Events > Senator suggests restricting Chinese students from studying science/tech in US

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Antifar
04/26/20 2:16:45 PM
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FortuneCookie
04/26/20 2:17:38 PM
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"Maybe we could purify the air by burning crosses."

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ScazarMeltex
04/26/20 2:17:44 PM
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Lol as though America is the only place they could learn those skills.

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LordFarquad1312
04/26/20 2:18:01 PM
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What do you know? I guessed his poilitical affiliation correctly.

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Unsugarized_Foo
04/26/20 2:18:03 PM
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Yeah, I listened to an NPR thing about how they come here, get smart, leave, and abuse the system.

I'm for this

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Anteaterking
04/26/20 2:20:21 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Yeah, I listened to an NPR thing about how they come here, get smart, leave, and abuse the system.

I'm for this

*pays for good/service*
"Wait hold up why are you abusing the system"

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Unsugarized_Foo
04/26/20 2:22:25 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
*pays for good/service*
"Wait hold up why are you abusing the system"

More like the Chinese government pays, then they go apply it to their authoritarian regime, make the world worse, and possibly cause some controversy over here by stealing intelligence.

Fuck the Chinese government frankly

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HylianFox
04/26/20 2:23:56 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
I'm for this

aaaand here we go

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KiwiTerraRizing
04/26/20 2:24:33 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
More like the Chinese government pays, then they go apply it to their authoritarian regime, make the world worse, and possibly cause some controversy over here by stealing intelligence.

Fuck the Chinese government frankly

Capitalism has no morality, more money at all costs.

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Unsugarized_Foo
04/26/20 2:30:03 PM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Capitalism has no morality, more money at all costs.

Well, they have mission statements they need to live up to...

Like Harvard, Harvard's mission statement is
to educate the citizens and citizen-leaders for our society. We do this through our commitment to the transformative power of a liberal arts and sciences education.

Pretty good argument that getting educated to go help the Chinese government isn't helping the leaders of our society...maybe a future China

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g980
04/26/20 2:33:00 PM
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Universities make a lot of money off of those students

Id rather we focused on keeping them here. I work with a lot of chinese ex pats in tech, theyre great

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Balrog0
04/26/20 2:43:06 PM
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g980 posted...
Universities make a lot of money off of those students

Id rather we focused on keeping them here. I work with a lot of chinese ex pats in tech, theyre great

I agree

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Romulox28
04/28/20 6:31:54 AM
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Highwind07 posted...
This is a problem with the government and not with legit immigrants. Asian Americans have long, long innovated the tech industry contrary to your point earlier about abusing the system and leave.

Your comment is very much akin to "When Mexico sends its people they are not sending their best" which is very disingenuous.
He's saying international students not immigrants

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Son Of Spam
04/28/20 6:32:58 AM
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If we do this they'll just go get educated in some other western country. Then a portion of them will end up staying in that country giving them a skilled labor advantage. So we'd lose out on both money and a skilled workforce.

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malenz
04/30/20 6:44:36 AM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
What do you know? I guessed his poilitical affiliation correctly.

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FursonaNonGrata
04/30/20 6:46:54 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Yeah, I listened to an NPR thing about how they come here, get smart, leave, and abuse the system.

I'm for this

NPR exists solely to launder right-wing talking points to a holier-than-thou wannabe liberal audience. I would say youre getting brainwashed but you already seem xenophobic enough on your own.

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ultimate reaver
04/30/20 6:53:29 AM
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The sinophobia is real

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Frolex
04/30/20 7:05:13 AM
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Interesting how readily conservatives are willing to embrace affirmative action and abandon their rhetoric about how we only should be considering admitting the students with the highest scores when it comes to this topic. Very interesting indeed

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UnfairRepresent
04/30/20 7:06:37 AM
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This is just racism
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Kolibri X
04/30/20 7:20:11 AM
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Not a bad idea. Chinese come here not because they are the best students but because they are wealthy and can afford it. They take up seats and raise tuition for everyone else. China is a country, not a race, and they are not our friend.

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VanananaHeyHey
04/30/20 7:25:50 AM
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Shakespeare, man. :/ Do you think he knows?

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NinjaBreakfast
04/30/20 7:26:33 AM
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Will be interesting to see how all the racist 'model minority' stuff looks post covid-19

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UnfairRepresent
04/30/20 7:28:09 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
Not a bad idea. Chinese come here not because they are the best students but because they are wealthy and can afford it. They take up seats and raise tuition for everyone else. China is a country, not a race, and they are not our friend.

This is such a dumb point.

Saying "Anyone from China has less rights than anyone not from China in our nation" is wrong and prejudiced

If you want to go "IT'S NOT RACISM! A Chinese girl who lived in South Korea could come do it!" is a meaningless distinction.

You can't treat innocent people like that. You're pissing on every value and freedom and dream and hope America is supposed to represent, that tens of millions died for in order to represent
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Alpha218
04/30/20 7:29:13 AM
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FursonaNonGrata posted...
NPR exists solely to launder right-wing talking points to a holier-than-thou wannabe liberal audience.
lol you cant be serious

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FursonaNonGrata
04/30/20 7:34:56 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
lol you cant be serious


I love that in the face of multiple posts full of obvious anti-Chinese xenophobia this is the one post you took issue with

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FursonaNonGrata
04/30/20 7:35:13 AM
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https://twitter.com/paint771/status/1252644630509891714?s=21

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ayane225
04/30/20 7:39:08 AM
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FursonaNonGrata posted...
I love that in the face of multiple posts full of obvious anti-Chinese xenophobia this is the one post you took issue with
center left in US is far right when it comes to foreign policy.
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Alpha218
04/30/20 7:46:53 AM
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FursonaNonGrata posted...
I love that in the face of multiple posts full of obvious anti-Chinese xenophobia this is the one post you took issue with
Ive had people call me a CCP shill for describing the way conservatives are treating Chinese people as racist. Frankly having the same tired non-argument regurgitated at you every time gets boring. Me only responding to you doesnt mean Im okay with those other posts

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Doom_Art
04/30/20 7:47:54 AM
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Somehow I knew it was Tom Cotton

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Kolibri X
04/30/20 8:00:27 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
This is such a dumb point.

Saying "Anyone from China has less rights than anyone not from China in our nation" is wrong and prejudiced

If you want to go "IT'S NOT RACISM! A Chinese girl who lived in South Korea could come do it!" is a meaningless distinction.

You can't treat innocent people like that. You're pissing on every value and freedom and dream and hope America is supposed to represent, that tens of millions died for in order to represent

Muh racism is a dumber point. Until they change its time we treated China like the Cold War rival they are. I'm sorry I made you so emotional.

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Antifar
04/30/20 8:04:49 AM
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Kolibri X posted...


Muh racism is a dumber point. Until they change its time we treated China like the Cold War rival they are. I'm sorry I made you so emotional.

You're not as big an asshole as you're pretending to be.
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Frolex
04/30/20 8:07:03 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
Muh racism is a dumber point. Until they change its time we treated China like the Cold War rival they are. I'm sorry I made you so emotional.

Luckily, "China" is not who is attending university. But still, if you think we should identity politics in college admissions processes , i'm here for it. Welcome to the left wing :^)

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VanananaHeyHey
04/30/20 8:08:25 AM
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FursonaNonGrata posted...
https://twitter.com/paint771/status/1252644630509891714?s=21

I would absolutely agree with this. Especially since the Tea Party ripped their funding in 2010, they've become absolute unquestioning toadies for Republicans. They have conservative guests on frequently to speak unchallenged. The people they bring on for 'balance' are also very improperly credentialed; they'll have a Republican congressman and a local volunteer activist as the 'Democrat,' so the activist sounds far less polished and articulate regardless of the merit of their cause. Or, once, they had Randy Rainbow interminably talking about his theatrics, then presented a Republican legislator actually talking about things of substance in the next segment. You'll actually get more satisfying discussion on Bloomberg radio.

The rest of the coverage is all "How can Hope help people feel Faith, whatever it means to them?" "What does Resilience mean to you?" "How can one little bird create so much Community?" "I explore the secrets of operasta, the new craze that combines opera with pasta." It was always artsy and local-crafts-favoring, but lo the past decade, it's just been Reader's Digestable pap. :(

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COVxy
04/30/20 8:21:24 AM
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Lol at trying to reframe NPR as conservative.

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Kolibri X
04/30/20 8:22:40 AM
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Antifar posted...
You're not as big an asshole as you're pretending to be.
More emotional name calling. Noticing a pattern when crying racism is no longer effective.

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NinjaBreakfast
04/30/20 8:23:56 AM
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Whoosh

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Balrog0
04/30/20 8:33:55 AM
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COVxy posted...
Lol at trying to reframe NPR as conservative.

The news director of npr isn't personally editing copy lol

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Antifar
04/30/20 8:52:51 AM
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Re: NPR, their recent story uncritically taking a small business owner at her word that "my employees are making more money staying home, so I can't open back up" - and their subsequent response to criticism by labeling it nothing more than internet hot takes - was a real illustrative moment, imo.

https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2020/04/29/845262373/interview-with-a-coffee-shop-owner-upset-liberals-heres-what-really-happened
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Solar_Crimson
04/30/20 8:53:22 AM
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Not surprised seeing the right-wing users agreeing with a dumb AF talking point.

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Balrog0
04/30/20 9:19:44 AM
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I thought people overreacted wildly to that story.

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FursonaNonGrata
04/30/20 9:45:35 AM
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The owner of that coffee shop also literally called the police on a group of kids (who were part of a program for at-risk youth) for drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.

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FursonaNonGrata
04/30/20 9:47:10 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
Ive had people call me a CCP shill for describing the way conservatives are treating Chinese people as racist. Frankly having the same tired non-argument regurgitated at you every time gets boring. Me only responding to you doesnt mean Im okay with those other posts

man I wonder if there was something a moderator could do to help curtail the frequency of posts that paint Chinese people in a negative light

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COVxy
04/30/20 9:49:23 AM
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Seems like a stretch to use that story to claim that NPR whitewashes conservatism.

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Alpha218
04/30/20 9:50:36 AM
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You should mark the posts then because we handle them from a queue.

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lordofmud
04/30/20 9:53:07 AM
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People need to realize that China is our enemy. They run a brutal dictatorship. Yet we support them with trade and opportunities to study here. It needs to stop.

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COVxy
04/30/20 9:54:25 AM
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lordofmud posted...
People need to realize that China is our enemy. They run a brutal dictatorship. Yet we support them with trade and opportunities to study here. It needs to stop.

This is a pretty off the wall post, especially when you consider the actual subject matter.

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