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VintageGin
04/26/20 11:47:50 AM
#51:


SavageInTheBox posted...
I hadn't seen the actual quote Trump made about injecting disinfectants so I just looked it up. Unsurprisingly, it is ridiculously obvious that what is being reported is not what he meant.

How do liberals still not realize that falsely attributing quotes to him and ignoring context makes them look petty and insane to the rest of the country? The guy makes plenty of dumb statements all the time, and liberals consistently latch on to the most innocent stuff and twist it.

Uh, did you watch it within context? At the very best he comes across the same as someone who is completely unprepared for a meeting.

I get the feeling that he was trying to reiterate/rephrase what was said, but he mangled the interpretation so badly that it became something else entirely.

And the fact that he later said he was being "sarcastic" is...well...something.

Out of curiosity, what is your interpretation of his comments there?

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Jakyl25
04/26/20 12:04:07 PM
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UshiromiyaEva
04/26/20 12:06:27 PM
#53:


This would mean they also renumbered the episode to try and hide it.

How in the world do people think they can get away with this kind of thing on the internet in 2020? Absolutely pathetic, and horrendous optics if true.
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TheRock1525
04/26/20 12:14:39 PM
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I mean when you google Tara Reade one of the first articles is from CNN about this call:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/25/politics/tara-reade-mom-larry-king/index.html

I don't see why they would leave this article up but remove the video.

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Corrik7
04/26/20 12:17:45 PM
#55:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/absinthol/status/1254242795017117696?s=21

I have not verified this, but if true, wow
Foxnews reported this yesterday on their website. They have been actively dragging CNN over the Reade thing over and over. They also had crazy ass Rose McGowan calling Alyssa Milano? a total fraud and hypocrite for supporting Biden still.

FoxNews is going all in with it.

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Jakyl25
04/26/20 12:22:18 PM
#56:


TheRock1525 posted...
I mean when you google Tara Reade one of the first articles is from CNN about this call:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/25/politics/tara-reade-mom-larry-king/index.html

I don't see why they would leave this article up but remove the video.


It would be interesting to know all the people with the power to have that episode pulled

EDIT: like its entirely possible that Google is the one who took the episode down, not CNN
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Kinglicious
04/26/20 2:06:48 PM
#57:


I think people noticed it was down the same day as Grim's article on the intercept about it but there's no evidence it was originally up to begin with. This is before we had audio and video of it.

It's a weird episode to not have considering it's a Wednesday iirc, which would make it the only pull like it. Since there's no evidence on when it was up (unless something's changed) I don't know what way i lean exactly beyond it being suspicious. Super easy to go the more conspiracy route considering the details and the right is definitely gonna apply pressure here as to why it's missing. Some of the left too, to be fair, but all the factions objecting don't have power.


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Jakyl25
04/26/20 3:10:41 PM
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Ashethan
04/26/20 3:15:33 PM
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"He didn't say Nobel, he said Noble which is totally different and you know it. Geez libz will spin anything."

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Xeybozn
04/26/20 3:17:29 PM
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Come on, the tweets clearly say "Noble" prizes, not Nobel. Trump just has a very high opinion of the Pulitzer prize, probably because he loves the news media so much.
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Wanglicious
04/26/20 3:24:55 PM
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clearly he wants Jamie Noble to hand out awards.


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UshiromiyaEva
04/26/20 3:26:50 PM
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I hope you guys know you aren't joking and that the spin is going to in fact be that he he was calung the Pulitzer a "noble prize."

Even though he capitalized it.

And mentioned the comitee.
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SavageInTheBox
04/26/20 4:00:28 PM
#63:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/akarl_smith/status/1254480010016161793?s=21

I did verify that these tweets are real

And still up!

See, this is a perfectly stupid tweet to highlight. There's no reason to pretend he said we should inject bleach.


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red13n
04/26/20 4:01:19 PM
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except you know, you don't have to pretend he said we should inject bleach because he actually said it.

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SavageInTheBox
04/26/20 4:08:13 PM
#65:


VintageGin posted...
Uh, did you watch it within context? At the very best he comes across the same as someone who is completely unprepared for a meeting.

I get the feeling that he was trying to reiterate/rephrase what was said, but he mangled the interpretation so badly that it became something else entirely.

And the fact that he later said he was being "sarcastic" is...well...something.

Out of curiosity, what is your interpretation of his comments there?

My interpretation is the only logical one. His statement is literally not up for interpretation, it was completely black and white.

The #1 preventative measure we have been told from the start is to wash our hands, because it kills the virus. Trump stated that if we have disinfectants and sanitizers that kill the virus on our skin, why do we not have similar things that can kill the virus once it's inside the body? He then said we should look into developing such a remedy, which makes it even more clear he was speaking hypothetically and not telling us to inject ourselves with bleach.

If anything, it shows he's not exactly familiar with how vaccines work. He's not the smartest man. But to imply he thinks injecting Clorox will work is idiotic and dangerous.

As for his "sarcasm" excuse, who knows. He has never been good at defending his words and actions, usually because he's forced to defend things he didn't actually say or do.

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SavageInTheBox
04/26/20 4:10:55 PM
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red13n posted...
except you know, you don't have to pretend he said we should inject bleach because he actually said it.

I see now your complete lack of being able to comprehend basic English that made you uniquely qualified to be a GameFAQs moderator

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red13n
04/26/20 4:12:40 PM
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Being a teenager with too much time on my hands qualified me to be a gamefaqs moderator.

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Mr Lasastryke
04/26/20 4:16:29 PM
#68:


i mean, even if trump didn't say "you should inject bleach," the fact that he's babbling about stuff in a press conference he obviously doesn't know shit about is still fucking dumb.

the "there was absolutely nothing wrong with what trump was saying and liberals spun it into something terrible!" take is giving trump way too much credit.

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Leafeon13N
04/26/20 4:22:27 PM
#69:


SavageInTheBox posted...
I see now your complete lack of being able to comprehend basic English that made you uniquely qualified to be a GameFAQs moderator
Also I'm bored so I'll play, are you denying Trump said injecting disinfectant was something to be looked into?
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VintageGin
04/26/20 4:41:05 PM
#70:


SavageInTheBox posted...
My interpretation is the only logical one. His statement is literally not up for interpretation, it was completely black and white.

The #1 preventative measure we have been told from the start is to wash our hands, because it kills the virus. Trump stated that if we have disinfectants and sanitizers that kill the virus on our skin, why do we not have similar things that can kill the virus once it's inside the body? He then said we should look into developing such a remedy, which makes it even more clear he was speaking hypothetically and not telling us to inject ourselves with bleach.

If anything, it shows he's not exactly familiar with how vaccines work. He's not the smartest man. But to imply he thinks injecting Clorox will work is idiotic and dangerous.

As for his "sarcasm" excuse, who knows. He has never been good at defending his words and actions, usually because he's forced to defend things he didn't actually say or do.

The reason I asked if you saw it in context was because he was responding directly to the person who preceded him, who talked about the time needed for UV light and bleach/isopropyl alcohol to kill the virus.

It wasn't a hypothetical disinfectant in this case; it was specifically those two.

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xp1337
04/26/20 5:23:47 PM
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A few days ago I was thinking that I hadn't seen any election ads in a while and I was almost a bit surprised given Trump has like $54784 trillion on hand since he's been fundraising since literally day 1.

So naturally I doomed myself and starting yesterday I have begun seeing them on TV. Just Congress so far but it has begun.

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xp1337
04/26/20 5:41:08 PM
#72:


https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1254428558224736257

Republican Senator (Tom Cotton) is proposing we restrict Chinese students from studying science and tech in American universities.

"If Chinese students want to come here and study Shakespeare and the Federalist Papers, that's what they need to learn from America. They don't need to learn quantum computing."

Not that there was any real subtlety in what he believes and means here but just in case he tipped his hand by including famed American poet William Shakespeare there.

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LordoftheMorons
04/26/20 5:45:28 PM
#73:


xp1337 posted...
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1254428558224736257

Republican Senator (Tom Cotton) is proposing we restrict Chinese students from studying science and tech in American universities.

"If Chinese students want to come here and study Shakespeare and the Federalist Papers, that's what they need to learn from America. They don't need to learn quantum computing."

Not that there was any real subtlety in what he believes and means here but just in case he tipped his hand by including famed American poet William Shakespeare there.
....I don't think I can emphasize enough how fucking stupid this is

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LordoftheMorons
04/26/20 5:48:57 PM
#74:


Like a huge piece of America's science and tech dominance is that we attract the best talent from all over the world

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ChaosTonyV4
04/26/20 6:15:00 PM
#75:


Question for the Democrats in this topic who are against Universal Healthcare in this country on the basis of people like their employer coverage.

With millions losing their health insurance and jobs, have you evolved on the issue?

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Dancedreamer
04/26/20 6:39:57 PM
#76:


https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1254513987196248065

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UshiromiyaEva
04/26/20 6:41:12 PM
#77:


"14.1k people are talking about this" energy.
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red sox 777
04/26/20 7:27:35 PM
#78:


Banning Chinese students would increase our trade deficit. They're paying us hundreds of thousands of dollars per student and we're giving them worthless degrees in return. We should tax colleges as for-profit businesses so that wealth can be shared by the rest of the country though.

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Jakyl25
04/26/20 8:02:25 PM
#79:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I hope you guys know you aren't joking and that the spin is going to in fact be that he he was calung the Pulitzer a "noble prize."

Even though he capitalized it.

And mentioned the comitee.


https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1254544354603143168?s=21

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Jakyl25
04/26/20 8:06:44 PM
#80:


Oh man I dont know who I want to win this fight
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1254471864375750656?s=21

I think PJW? Yuck
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Mr Lasastryke
04/26/20 8:08:54 PM
#81:


eh, i dunno. he did consistently spell it as "noble" rather than "nobel." and the fact that he capitalized it doesn't necessarily mean anything - he constantly capitalizes random words in his tweets.

i can see the "i was being sarcastic" argument here much more than with the "injecting disinfectant is something to be looked into" thing, at least.

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UshiromiyaEva
04/26/20 8:14:05 PM
#82:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
eh, i dunno. he did consistently spell it as "noble" rather than "nobel." and the fact that he capitalized it doesn't necessarily mean anything - he constantly capitalizes random words in his tweets.

i can see the "i was being sarcastic" argument here much more than with the "injecting disinfectant is something to be looked into" thing, at least.

"their cherished 'nobles'"

This is not up for debate.
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Mr Lasastryke
04/26/20 8:15:42 PM
#83:


Jakyl25 posted...
Oh man I dont know who I want to win this fight
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1254471864375750656?s=21

I think PJW? Yuck

i'll go with molyneux. this is how bottom of the barrel PJW is.

and his "burn" doesn't even make sense because... molyneux is not an ugly guy?

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Wanglicious
04/26/20 8:18:33 PM
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i'll take PJW.
he's at least entertaining.


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Mr Lasastryke
04/26/20 8:20:32 PM
#85:


if you think inane memes like "IMAGINE MY SHOCK" are entertaining, sure

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Jakyl25
04/26/20 8:22:30 PM
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Dancedreamer
04/26/20 8:26:48 PM
#87:


Jakyl25 posted...
Oh man I dont know who I want to win this fight

Can't we hope they both lose?

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LordoftheMorons
04/26/20 9:16:22 PM
#88:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/absinthol/status/1254242795017117696?s=21

I have not verified this, but if true, wow
Its not

https://twitter.com/yair_rosenberg/status/1254471269136957440?s=21

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Corrik7
04/26/20 9:19:19 PM
#89:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Its not

https://twitter.com/yair_rosenberg/status/1254471269136957440?s=21
I mean, it might not be true, but nowhere in that rebuttal does he actually disprove the screen shot. He just posts other things.

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red sox 777
04/26/20 9:23:11 PM
#90:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Its not

https://twitter.com/yair_rosenberg/status/1254471269136957440?s=21

It's CNN. I consider them guilty until proven innocent, which is the standard they use to judge others.

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UshiromiyaEva
04/26/20 9:24:44 PM
#91:


So is the video up?

Because I feel like this would have been "disproven" a lot faster if the video was in fact not taken down.
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Corrik7
04/26/20 9:28:15 PM
#92:


If they put it back up now, they admit guilt. They have to act like it wasn't up there for a reason unrelated somehow. Lol.

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StealThisSheen
04/26/20 9:30:00 PM
#93:


The video's not there, but it's so bizarre because they literally covered the story/clip on their front page yesterday, so what would be the point in taking the video down?

I'm extremely confused.

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Wanglicious
04/26/20 9:31:19 PM
#94:


video isn't up on the app store.
but video was also never proven to have been there in the first place.

it's missing and nobody really has a good answer as to why that specific episode is missing but CNN has the footage and shown it at least.

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LordoftheMorons
04/26/20 9:31:30 PM
#95:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
So is the video up?

Because I feel like this would have been "disproven" a lot faster if the video was in fact not taken down.
Apparently none of the videos are actually available on google play:

https://twitter.com/mdornic/status/1254463286323539970?s=21

The listing for that episode is missing, but they were not the ones who put up those listings in the first place.

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red sox 777
04/26/20 9:32:03 PM
#96:


This is the same network with wall-to-wall coverage of that flight that went down over the Indian Ocean for weeks, while they provided virtually no actual coverage of the Russian invasion of Crimea (while providing plenty of coverage on what Hillary Clinton, who had no government position at the time, thought about it). It's the centrist version of Fox News, except its executives are much less smart.

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UshiromiyaEva
04/26/20 9:35:35 PM
#97:


So, what, this was GOOGLE?
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ChaosTonyV4
04/26/20 9:39:26 PM
#98:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Its not

https://twitter.com/yair_rosenberg/status/1254471269136957440?s=21

I mean it actually IS true, but theres a reason.


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LordoftheMorons
04/26/20 9:41:26 PM
#99:


I think its far more likely that, e.g., a bunch of people report the listing and its automatically removed than any deliberate action on googles behalf (thats how they treat stuff like copyright violation on YouTube; they put the onus on the uploader to show that they didnt violate copyright after receiving a claim of infringement).

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UshiromiyaEva
04/26/20 9:43:01 PM
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So in this case, the idea is that a large number of Biden supporters wanted to hide the video and get it taken down.

Still not a great best case scenario!
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