Current Events > Why is it society has come up with this euphemism 'Essential Employees'

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:30:27 PM
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where it sounds great, but actually means "Essentially we don't care if you get sick- now go back to stocking toilet paper for soccer moms"

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YookaLaylee
04/17/20 7:31:53 PM
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Because the name you came up with is too long

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Jiggy101011
04/17/20 7:32:29 PM
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It's not a euphemism?

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evil_zombie11
04/17/20 7:32:29 PM
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Has to be spun as positive so people play along

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:32:52 PM
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YookaLaylee 16 minutes ago
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Because the name you came up with is too long

But that is EXACTLY my point! Politicians and wordsmiths are brilliant when you think about it, right?

Short. Concise. Makes you sound VIP-ish, even.

Then you find out what it ACTUALLY means

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knutjob
04/17/20 7:33:21 PM
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Because calling them 'key workers' gave locksmiths the wrong idea
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AsucaHayashi
04/17/20 7:33:27 PM
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my impression of "essential worker" will always remind me of the scene in schindler's list where they give out working passes to metal workers and the like while ditching the teacher and musician etc.

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:33:28 PM
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Jiggy101011 posted...
It's not a euphemism?
Wal-mart workers are already dying by the dozens.

Yes it is.

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:34:00 PM
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Mr Hangman posted...
It's not a euphemism. They are being treated unfairly, sure.

Ladies and gentlemen: I give you, the paradox of the right.

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:34:48 PM
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"Gunshot wounds aren't harmful. They may kill you, sure"

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Blue_Dream87
04/17/20 7:35:01 PM
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I prefer the term sacrificial employee

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:35:57 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
I prefer the term sacrificial employee
Nobody would do that though. Just hearing the word SACRIFICE, what do you think of?

I'll tell you what: Fucking Montezuma tossing you down a pyramid with your head rolling down in front of you for "The Sun God", that's what.

No, no - essential employee is MUCH better for a politician to use.

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:36:10 PM
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Mr Hangman posted...
It's not a paradox.


AFrench2 posted...
"Gunshot wounds aren't harmful. They may kill you, sure"


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Unsugarized_Foo
04/17/20 7:36:35 PM
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Idk, you can just quit your job and get the unemployment promotion in most places

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Naysaspace
04/17/20 7:37:54 PM
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I cant' wait for the great wave of unskilled unionization that wil come after this. There's literally no reason grocery store employees should be earning less than $15USD per hour.

Can't wait for all the opinions from people who've never worked in a grocery store too btw
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Squall28
04/17/20 7:38:21 PM
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The alternative is they don't work, and we all starve to death.

Are you ok man?

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:41:16 PM
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Squall28 posted...
The alternative is they don't work, and we all starve to death.

Are you ok man?
Uh, no?

The alternative is national guard hands out food and bread lines with PPE and gear to protect themselves.

Not 18 year old kids working their first job hoping they don't get fucking death at work today.

Do you know how national emergencies work, man? FEMA? That stuff?

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:42:07 PM
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*18 year old kid at Kroger*
"What's for lunch today. billy?"
"Death from coronavirus"


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Smashingpmkns
04/17/20 7:42:13 PM
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Squall28 posted...
The alternative is they don't work, and we all starve to death.

Are you ok man?


Or we can pay them better and actually show appreciation instead of spouting bullshit.
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Unsugarized_Foo
04/17/20 7:43:28 PM
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AFrench2 posted...
Uh, no?

The alternative is national guard hands out food and bread lines with PPE and gear to protect themselves.

Not 18 year old kids working their first job hoping they don't get fucking death at work today.

Do you know how national emergencies work, man? FEMA? That stuff?

There'd be like 3 soldiers per store

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Secretly
04/17/20 7:44:07 PM
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Wtf are you talking about TC? Grocery store employees who a lot of people mocked and laughed at are essential. They deserve that moniker
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Squall28
04/17/20 7:44:58 PM
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AFrench2 posted...
Uh, no?

The alternative is national guard hands out food and bread lines with PPE and gear to protect themselves.

Not 18 year old kids working their first job hoping they don't get fucking death at work today.

Do you know how national emergencies work, man? FEMA? That stuff?

We don't have enough food or personnel for that.

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:45:20 PM
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...what the fuck is a store?

You'd have DALLAS - area bread kitchens...NYC - area bread kitchens, etc etc

the fuck you talkinga bout "store". It's a pandemic - we're not talking about walking into Target and browsing the bakery. I'm talking about taking care of your citizens so people dont die.

You know - what politicians are suppsoed to be doing (we have 2,000+ dead today already btw. It's going up each minute)

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:47:09 PM
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See, your problem Squall, is you're still looking at shit from a pre-COVID19 viewpoint.

Even your nomenclature is faded. "Store". "Personnel"


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Anteaterking
04/17/20 7:47:24 PM
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Essential refers to the role that they play, not the rarity of their qualifications.


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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:47:58 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Essential refers to the role that they play, not the rarity of their qualifications.
Yeah, The essential role of dying with no healthcare to unload pallets at the store for you and me.

real "essential".

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Squall28
04/17/20 7:49:13 PM
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AFrench2 posted...
...what the fuck is a store?

You'd have DALLAS - area bread kitchens...NYC - area bread kitchens, etc etc

the fuck you talkinga bout "store". It's a pandemic - we're not talking about walking into Target and browsing the bakery. I'm talking about taking care of your citizens so people dont die.

You know - what politicians are suppsoed to be doing (we have 2,000+ dead today already btw. It's going up each minute)

So in this topic, you complain that essential workers have to work, and in the other, you complain about how many people are unemployed. Do you not see a disconnect there?

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ghettoraider81
04/17/20 7:50:06 PM
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They call us essential

because sacrificial would be too accurate.

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:52:17 PM
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ghettoraider81 posted...
They call us essential

because sacrificial would be too accurate.
EXACTLY!

And at the core of what you just said, is politics, is it not?

It's about making things people don't want to do - sound GOOD!

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Unsugarized_Foo
04/17/20 7:52:26 PM
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That's a good way to get everyone killed

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Anteaterking
04/17/20 7:52:26 PM
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ghettoraider81 posted...
They call us essential

because sacrificial would be too accurate.

Sacrificial and essential can both be true though.

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:53:27 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Sacrificial and essential can both be true though.

They are not synonyms. One is a euphemism for another.

Which, again, is my OP - it is a euphemism. Not a synonym.

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Secretly
04/17/20 7:54:02 PM
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ghettoraider81 posted...
They call us essential

because sacrificial would be too accurate.
I hope you understand that most of America appreciates and lauds you for your service. Because it actually is service in these times. I actually tip my cashiers and grocery workers.

You are the backbone of America and I wish you were compensated for all you've done
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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:54:05 PM
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Mr Hangman posted...
TC, you can't make an effective argument for improving the conditions of these workers while maintaining some ridiculous fantasy that you can just snap your fingers and have the national guard take all their places, replace all their logistic chains, and magically have all the PPE you'd want the essential workers to have (national guard doesn't have any of that either). It's a shitty situation but it's not a paradox, an oxymoron, or a euphemism and neither is it a quick or an easy fix.
Correct. I could. If I were President and had the briefing in January, like the current guy, I could have done all those things.

Thanks bud for playing!

(PS: He was playing golf! So he was playing too!)

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:54:31 PM
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euphemism
/yoofmizm/

noun

a mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.

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ghettoraider81
04/17/20 7:56:20 PM
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Thing is, all the people that arent worth $15 an hour they are the ones out there still working.

Meanwhile, all the fuckers sitting at home collecting unemployment waiting to go back, are getting an EXTRA $600 ON TOP of their benefits.

Its bullshit.

If anyone should be getting extra its the low wage workers out there with the public.
They are like nurses and doctors that signed up knowing they would have to deal with something like this.

When this is over we are going to see a new rise of unions in the workforce. Count on it.

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:57:27 PM
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ghettoraider81 posted...
Thing is, all the people that arent worth $15 an hour they are the ones out there still working.

Meanwhile, all the fuckers sitting at home collecting unemployment waiting to go back, are getting an EXTRA $600 ON TOP of their benefits.

Its bullshit.

If anyone should be getting extra its the low wage workers out there with the public.
They are like nurses and doctors that signed up knowing they would have to deal with something like this.

When this is over we are going to see a new rise of unions in the workforce. Count on it.
Correct. It is bullshit.

So what are you 20 million Americans....
(who just got fired by the rich over the past 4 weeks - NOT 4 DECADES BUT 20 million jobs in FOUR WEEKS)
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going to do about it?

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ThyCorndog
04/17/20 7:57:58 PM
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evil_zombie11 posted...
Has to be spun as positive so people play along
This. Society is built on facades

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AFrench2
04/17/20 7:59:35 PM
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Alright, let's not delve into The Joker from Dark Knight territortiy here.

I don't want this turning into a "Society is built on shit so we need chaos" type of thing.

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monkmith
04/17/20 8:00:04 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Idk, you can just quit your job and get the unemployment promotion in most places
doesn't everyone quit their job after 3 months to get that sweet sweet unemployment money?

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ThyCorndog
04/17/20 8:00:05 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo
04/17/20 8:00:55 PM
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monkmith posted...
doesn't everyone quit their job after 3 months to get that sweet sweet unemployment money?

Don't qualify for the Rona excuse until now

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AFrench2
04/17/20 8:02:33 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
no one said we need chaos
Well what DO we need?

because letting the rich sit indoors and work from home by the pool, while downtrodden folks have to go get sick and stock ice cream...

does that work for you?

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ThyCorndog
04/17/20 8:03:45 PM
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AFrench2 posted...
Well what DO we need?

because letting the rich sit indoors and work from home by the pool, while downtrodden folks have to go get sick and stock ice cream...

does that work for you?
no it does not work for me. not sure why you'd think I want that

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Politics
04/17/20 8:04:16 PM
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The real essential employees are the friends we made along the way

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gamer167
04/17/20 8:04:17 PM
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Easiest way to stop being considered essential is quit.
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Secretly
04/17/20 8:04:47 PM
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ghettoraider81 posted...
Thing is, all the people that arent worth $15 an hour they are the ones out there still working.

Meanwhile, all the fuckers sitting at home collecting unemployment waiting to go back, are getting an EXTRA $600 ON TOP of their benefits.

Its bullshit.

If anyone should be getting extra its the low wage workers out there with the public.
They are like nurses and doctors that signed up knowing they would have to deal with something like this.

When this is over we are going to see a new rise of unions in the workforce. Count on it.
Democrats want to give you guys 25k extra. I'm fully in support of that. Seriously, you guys are putting yourselves more in harms way than a lot of our military at the moment. People need to realize that. You are our servicemen. The front line of Americans economy. Please, understand a lot of people appreciate your service to our country.
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