Board 8 > Percussion Mafia Topic 10

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HanOfTheNekos
04/17/20 1:29:01 PM
#1:


Temporarily Deaf
  1. Corrik
  2. Lea
  3. MZero
  4. Death
  5. Sultan
  6. DamionDL
  7. Crescent


Still Smoking
XD1 - Ben aka Precariously-Held Crash Cymbals, MAFIA Hyper Bomb
XD1 - IGCD aka Conch Shell, TOWN Taunter
LD1 - Puns aka Art Blakey, MAFIA Messenger
LD2 - Red aka An Actual Percussionist, TOWN Flavor Cop
KN2 - Chris aka The Guy Who Shows Up Early To Help Set Up, TOWN Inventor
LD3 - Hbthebattle aka Percussion Cabinet, MAFIA Jack-Of-All-Instruments
MKD3 - BallaLeonHall aka Drum Case, TOWN Protector
KN3 - ScareChan aka The Blue Devils, INDEPENDENT Survivor Cop
LD4 - Panthera aka Battery Technician, MAFIA Possessor
KN4 - Tange aka Middle School First Chair, TOWN Detective
XD5 - Uwnim aka Sleigh Bells, TOWN Motion Detector
XD5 - DYL aka Cell-Phone with Sound Effects, MAFIA Trickster
XD5 - plum aka Wind Chimes, TOWN Motion Detector

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to reach majority. Day will still end at 9pm tonight!

Votals
[2] Corrik - Damion, Death

@Corrik7
@Delseban
@MZero11
@htaeD
@TheSultanOfSlam
@DamionDL
@Crescent-Moon

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DamionDL
04/17/20 1:30:48 PM
#2:


Either something really wonky happened with the redirects or I agree that it is sk and another scum. I refuse to believe this bomber could be Town and they also obviously planted a bomb every night so they couldn't have also redirected.

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htaeD
04/17/20 1:31:32 PM
#3:


I should also point out that DYL was a godfather....
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DamionDL
04/17/20 1:32:07 PM
#4:


He was, so now crescent is thinking there were maybe multiple godfathers?

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Crescent-Moon
04/17/20 1:32:16 PM
#5:


DamionDL posted...
Either something really wonky happened with the redirects or I agree that it is sk and another scum. I refuse to believe this bomber could be Town and they also obviously planted a bomb every night so they couldn't have also redirected.
I was misplaced on what I said. DYL was not motion scanned last night. It's just the arsonist.

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htaeD
04/17/20 1:32:43 PM
#6:


I am thinking we definitely need to test her now.
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DamionDL
04/17/20 1:32:51 PM
#7:


So where did the redirects come from, Crescent?

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Crescent-Moon
04/17/20 1:32:58 PM
#8:


DamionDL posted...
He was, so now crescent is thinking there were maybe multiple godfathers?
I doubt we have any scum left in the game.

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Fastbreak
04/17/20 1:33:19 PM
#9:


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Corrik7
04/17/20 1:33:22 PM
#10:


Dels posted... so corrik is claiming that he's a town role that detected bombs on people, and he faked a ##blow up and then the real scum bomber blew up all the people he had checked?

All the people I checked didn't blow up.

In fact it makes sense.

I let people know I checked uwnim clear.

Bomb on Mzero had to of been set Night 1. I saw it night 2.

Night 2 they probably put one on Plum, Uwnim, or DYL. I'll guess DYL because he looked like a mislynch.

Night 3 They put one on Plum. Because I saw this night 4 in my scan (possibly night 2 but still).

Night 4 they put one on uwnim with the intention of blowing them up and making it look like I laid them because I claimed to go to the first two targets night 1 and 2. Didn't expect me to see Plum's bomb.

Probably didn't expect to blow them up until I made that troll post because I was being pissed about being mislynched. But, I mean, that's perfect timing.

Who was all online? I mean, we can narrow down the SK that way. Mzero is sleeping I think so he is pretty good.

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Corrik7
04/17/20 1:34:19 PM
#11:


Crescent-Moon posted...
I doubt we have any scum left in the game.
So who put the night kill in last night? Who did the re-directs?

You are feeding misinformation to the game. She isn't town, dudes. Like me and Plum said, be wary of people with huge walls to post as soon as days go up like they know they are gonna live already.

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Crescent-Moon
04/17/20 1:34:38 PM
#12:


DamionDL posted...
So where did the redirects come from, Crescent?
...Also interesting.

Alright, just get the testing over with.

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Crescent-Moon
04/17/20 1:40:03 PM
#13:


It seems I made the mistake of trying to treat this game like a real, meaningful game, that actually deserved to be played though. All my logic only made sense if this game had any sense of setup balance, and now it's essentially all out the window. Almost everything I've done in this game is a waste of time.

I regret replacing in and wish one of those bombs had hit me.

Corrik is SK, and the last scum could be almost anyone at this point. We have essentially no direction to go other than throw darts at a board... It's just like one of my day 3 walls said.

I don't even care if I get lynched anymore. This game is garbage.

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Crescent-Moon
04/17/20 1:41:41 PM
#14:


##Vote: Corrik

This puts Corrik at 3. Now the other 4 people vote me, and let's just let this day idle for a while.

I don't intend to return until end of day. I dragged myself out of bed for this.

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Corrik7
04/17/20 1:41:53 PM
#15:


Oh, remember how I said Scum was going to do everything to avoid testing what I was saying today and that they would probably slink behind and let Crescent do the arguing for them. And, how I pointed out that DYL did it in a single post then slinked away?

I mean, am I fucking literally just the best at this game or what. I freaking swear. If you people listened half the time, you would win more.

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Corrik7
04/17/20 1:43:15 PM
#16:


Corrik7 posted... People are not going to want to be the guinea pig. Especially the actual scum lol. They will make every excuse in the book to refuse testing that.

Corrik7 posted...
Crescent is interesting because she either realized this and came out hard literally scum refreshing to be the first post because they knew they had to be be ahead of it pushing me as a mislynch today (she would already know scum isn't responsible for the bombs) or she is just really offbase town who is playing into scums hands for them.

Personally, I think she is likely town who is playing into their hands for them. The very last thing scum wants today is to be told to test a hammer or die themself. They need an offlynch that someone else suggested and led. Then in future days if I were mislynched, they would just be inactive enough to not hammer. Most of the heat would be on Crescent tomorrow as being scum.

DYL is curious as he basically supported Crescents idea then slinked away. Leaving her to push it.

As far as Mzero, Dels, Crescent, and DYL go. They all have claims that you would think scum wouldn't have as a power. Which is obviously way too much in a game with such loaded power on town. Simply put, one of these 4 is a liar / their power is just something tacked onto their scum/sk role to appear town.

There is a group of people that I think are definitely possibilities today.

Uwnim, Sultan, Plum, and Dels though are pretty much solid town. So, we should be crossing them out of the possibilities. Damien likely good too.

This leaves a pool of people in which we can test Mzero and hopefully eliminate another person from the pool simultaneously in one Lynch. Hopefully.



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Crescent-Moon
04/17/20 1:43:21 PM
#17:


My logic that testing the bombs was the worst possible play held if this game had any semblance of setup balance.

Which it doesn't seem to have.

Anyway, I'm going back to bed.

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Crescent-Moon
04/17/20 1:43:56 PM
#18:


(And seriously if you lynch me I will not even be mad at this point)

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Corrik7
04/17/20 1:44:01 PM
#19:


Crescent was just the SK playing into the hands for them. (most likely).

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Dark Young Link
04/17/20 1:44:22 PM
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HanOfTheNekos
04/17/20 1:50:40 PM
#21:


Votals
[3] Corrik - Damion, Death, Crescent

Day ends in a little over 7 hours. 4 votes to reach majority.

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Corrik7
04/17/20 1:52:25 PM
#22:


Trying to decide if Crescent is demoralized Town who just realized what I was telling her about her play was true or if she is playing exasperated because her angle to win just evaporated.

DYL slinked behind Crescent. Does Crescent as his teammate come out hard on me with the wall right off the bat then DYL slink behind her. Her ace in the hole to win the game (the scanned inno DYL blows up). Then she is demoralized and beat up about it.

Or is she SK who was trying to eliminate the scanner, used my troll exasperation post as cover to set off her bombs, that DYL tried to slink behind to get out of testing my role then is acting upset to try and still get my mislynch (possibly even upset that she thought only 1 scum was left and now realizing there is actually another 1 still on top of DYL).

Or is she town who believed everything she said erroneously. DYL slinked behind it because it was advantageous to Scum. The SK blew everything up to make it look like I did it (PS: Han was online when I tagged him. I made sure of it before I did it for maximum lols). Now, Crescent is demoralized because I was right that a SK existed and it is now sinking on her that another scum exists too.

So is she upset because another Scum is in the game than she anticipated as SK, that her ace in the hole DYL just got smited, or that she was misreading the game as town.


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Corrik7
04/17/20 1:54:59 PM
#23:


Dels and Sultan are definitely town. Damion were you scanned inno? Or just not seen moving? I am operating under the impression the Serial Killer can fool movement scans somehow. I doubt he can fool cop scans though personally. The Indy being able to scan him and the anti SK role... Chris... Bombproof, Cop Scan, Nonsense... was likely the anti SK role for town.

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Corrik7
04/17/20 1:57:30 PM
#24:


Knowing DYL is scum probably necessitates another re-read. I know I made a Trump post jokingly defending DYL when red called him out for inactivity. Beyond that, DYL barely posted all game.

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Corrik7
04/17/20 2:01:49 PM
#25:


BTW, Dels I am disappointed that I know you know setup balance enough to know Scum needs bigger end teams in SK games and you refused to acknowledge that earlier. Shame.

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Crescent-Moon
04/17/20 2:01:52 PM
#26:


I have no interest in playing this game anymore and I'm almost certainly not going to get it back, just going to make this clear enough. But, given it took a nearly inactive Dels to replace an even more inactive Lea, I know I'm most likely stuck here.

I should've stuck with the mentality I had day 3. Let's just throw our darts at the board and see if they hit.

Imma go curl up with my llama and drop this game like a stone in any case.


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DamionDL
04/17/20 2:02:46 PM
#27:


Corrik I was both scanned innocent and scanned no action.

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htaeD
04/17/20 2:03:57 PM
#28:


Sorry to hear it Crescent

Probably would have been less harsh if you had been there for the actual hyperbomb explosion. That kinda set the tone for the rest of the game.
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DamionDL
04/17/20 2:07:35 PM
#29:


Yeah, I know through the days I kind of settled in to just thinking this was a high power game except for me and not a FUN game. So today was an eye opener. If only because the bomber didn't even have to use a night to blow up instead of plant

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htaeD
04/17/20 2:08:49 PM
#30:


Also I had to make sure Sultan wasnt scanned as a possible scumrole somehow, but I doubt he is either scum mayor or scum roleblocker. Lol.

So at this point either the last threat is Corrik or Crescent. My money is on the former.
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Corrik7
04/17/20 2:10:01 PM
#31:


Okay in the first 7 pages of Topic 1.

Dyl posts in quick succession a Star Wars video for the hyper bomb results.
Questions Puns vote.
And says Damion is scum with fake joy for the scum being dead.

Page 8 he comes back for 3 more quick posts.

He says he won't be there for the deadline tomorrow
He says he doesn't think Tange slipped like Scare accused him.
He says Ben and Panth he felt both were trying to provoke a reaction. (I'm gonna say at this point it looked like DYL was going for soft bussing teammates at this point).

Nothing more topic 1.

DYL voted Damion at some point I didn't see also ftr.

Corrik7 posted... DYL made a post. It was a good post even. Some would even say a perfect post. I mean... I dunno... I am sure some of you would say otherwise. I mean, you have to. That's how it works. There is this thing out there called mafia. It's just mafia. DYL says something perfect. So perfect. So perfect that anyone else who read it immediately said that was a perfect post. Yet, here we are. Here we are... I think what some of you do is just a disgrace. Truly a disgrace. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Over a perfect post... Just a disgrace...


Still hilarious. Yinz all suck for not appreciating it.

DYL never posted again day 1.


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Corrik7
04/17/20 2:10:49 PM
#32:


DamionDL posted...
Corrik I was both scanned innocent and scanned no action.
Okay. So you are pretty much town.

This leaves Crescent, Mzero, and Death for the possibilities for the SK and the last scum.

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Corrik7
04/17/20 2:13:05 PM
#33:


htaeD posted...
Sorry to hear it Crescent

Probably would have been less harsh if you had been there for the actual hyperbomb explosion. That kinda set the tone for the rest of the game.
I fully believe Crescent is appealing to emotion now with the woe is me stuff. Like, what does she have to be upset about if she is town? Town is still in a good position to win if they play smart. The last thing Town could afford if she is town for her to shut down and throw the game.

I don't believe she as town is literally just gonna throw the game. Even if she did have all her assumptions and reads basically just lit on fire and torched. (see what I did thur, Crescent?)

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Corrik7
04/17/20 2:17:04 PM
#34:


There is 7 people left. IF we mislynch today... 6 left. Scum has to try and shoot confirmed town I guess. While the SK probably has to try and put a bomb on another Town, I guess?

So 5 left going into tomorrow if we mislynched. Bomb on one person. SK probably detonates it during the day. 4 left. 1 scum, 1 SK, 2 town.

Eek maybe we aren't in good shape. Hold up.

Scum has to try and shoot the SK at night this night. 2 Town 1 scum left. Scum has to try and win on the mislynch.

If Scum misses and hits town. 1 town, 1 sk, 1 scum left. SK would have had to put the bomb on the Scum to detonate the bomb to kill the Scum that day. 1 SK left, 1 town left. SK wins. SK accidentally detonates on town. Scum shoots SK at night for the win.

Uh, so no, we aren't in good shape. If we mislynch today... we have to hope SK or Scum take one another out or we might have lost regardless.

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Corrik7
04/17/20 2:19:34 PM
#35:


Mzero as SK would make sense if he didn't have a bomb go off on him. He would be able to survive the hyper bomb which if SK voted the hyper bomb right at the start, the balance would be hella thrown off because the scum team is so large.

So, either way SK probably is immune to bombs or something anyways. Game is balanced around the SK living and doing damage.

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htaeD
04/17/20 2:20:47 PM
#36:


It would be the weirdest flex for Mzero to bomb himself and live just to appear as a victim.
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Corrik7
04/17/20 2:21:27 PM
#37:


htaeD posted...
It would be the weirdest flex for Mzero to bomb himself and live just to appear as a victim.
It would be freaking hilarious and fun, but I can't see being able to put a bomb on yourself lol. It would also mean he did it night 1 cuz I saw it night 2.

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Corrik7
04/17/20 2:23:48 PM
#38:


Dark Young Link posted... Fucking hell. Sorry I missed so much of yesterday folks. Work was super busy and they asked me to do some overtime... Still out of it to be honest but...

Looking back at it, Puns and Ben's interactions with each other. Puns ponts out the fakeclaim, as opposed to just assuming it was a joke not
to be taken seriously, almost as if he wanted people to focus on it. Not sure if Ben's votes mean anything or if he was just trying to vote
randomly to provoke anyone. Not sure how I want to take the uwnim interaction. Iwnim trying to suggest that Red is scum because
he countered claimed a joke claim but didn't vote doesn't make me feel good about him.
Ben goes kaboom. Lots of reactions.
Puns votes Panthera, based off the logic of known scum Ben.

Damion comes in with a "Yay town" post. A throwaway scum role completing its job(aka, taking a town power down with it) isn't
scum getting "rekt". Had it killed a vanilla or a bombproof town set it off maybe. He tries to justify it being fine since
it was IGCD but he also admits he hasn't played for years so... why assume the player hasn't improved since then? Lea brings
up a good point by saying most of Damion's posts are just about how bad IGCD is.
I don't get Sultan going after Red for "being sarcastic". He also basically ignores his very serious vote on Damion. Red did
make a joke vote on Corrik very early, but why focus on that? Especially when Corrik himself didn't have a problem with it? That said
he claimed tracker so whatever.

MZero asking if Chris' bombproof is one shot or not. If there's a second bomb(pls no) then auto lynch Mzero imo. That's fishing for info only
mafia benefits from.

5star's move on Chris feels odd. I don't think most scum players would go after Chris so brazenly, but at the same time it seems like his argument isn't
entierly there.
Of course if Chris is scum then... would scum Chris have his mate do such a thing?

Don't like Balla following Chris' vote just because. Perhaps I missed it but it seems like Balla is kind of just there? I'd like him to explain his thought
process more. He can't explain why he feels Chris is town?

Lea asking to be lynched... is giving off jester vibes. Like apparently she's claiming reviver but why have the day end with you being lynched? Why give town less info?
Damion splintering on a Scum/??? lynch is basically him confirming scum. No reason to try to lynch Lea at the time he did. Even if you think she's scum, you go after the more likely target first. Scare switching his vote on Panth probably makes Scare scum and Panth town. Puns was going after Panth a lot, scum would absolutely try to make a last minute reversal to save Puns there.

##Vote: Balla

But yeah. Dude is scum who just wants to buddy with Chris.


DYL's 1st post day 2. Damion questions DYL's power.

Dark Young Link posted... You think Lea was trying to save Puns? Even after the tie?


Shades the idea Lea was trying to save Puns. Lea being pretty likely town though likely means this is nothing.

Missed the context for the start of this post but...

"htaeD 4/8/2020 10:32:02 AM#310
Die would be a strong word. I am more the investigative kind.
But since you asked nicely.

Scare
Red
MZero
DamionDL
Lolo
DYL
BallaLeonHall
5tar


Well scratch Lolo for obvious reasons.
The name Balla came to my mind immediately.
But with the way the lynch happened I wonder if scum would be more easily located in one of these: Mzero, Damion, DYL or 5tar. People who didnt show up for the deadline.
DYL has his odd claim, which gives me pause. (Also I still need to untangle that wall of his). And Damion is picking up the pace today, which I appreciate. 5tar I came around too a little yesterday.
Mzero I think looks the worst out of that lot there.

On the other hand Balla was the one who submitted to your reputation on day1 wasnt he?
That still bothers me. So either him or Mzero."

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htaeD
04/17/20 2:24:07 PM
#39:


I mean I am still pretty sure the bomblayer is just you, Corrik.
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Corrik7
04/17/20 2:30:01 PM
#40:


Dark Young Link posted... I love when my connection craps out in the middle of a post and doesn't go back until the next day. Stellar work Comcast.

Gonna look over how votes went down again.

5] Puns - Chris, Tange, Death, (Hb), (Corrik), (Scare), (Corrik), Hb, Panth
[4] Panth - (Puns), (Puns), (Chris), (Chris), (Scare), Balla, (Sultan), (Lea), (Lea), Puns, Scare, Red

Dark Young Link posted...
...

Are you fucking serious?

I wrote all that shit down and

Oh my god.


Dark Young Link posted... Alright, let's try this again.

On Puns

Chris turns on Puns, stating he didn't feel Puns was town based off the last 46 hours.

Tange votes Puns for his "secret surprise" bullshit.

Death and HB vote for similar reasons.

Corrik does a "Claim or Die" vote.

Scare follow's Chris' Heat Check

On Panth

Puns was scum.

Chris votes Panth, he mentioned he didn't think much of his vote on Sultan

Scare asks for Chris's reasoning for voting Panth, and then votes Panth afterwards.

Balla votes Panth while bringing up a NL for some reason. Says he's voting Panth because Chris told him to, though he didn't do so directly. This is a sheep vote.

Sultan votes Panth, saying his bomb reaction felt the most fake(Not Damion?), and didn't like his Scare vote.

Lea also votes Panth. Her vote goes all over the place, but lands on Panth multiple times. Even following Puns once.

Scare switches back to Panth at the last minute, causing a tiebreaker.

Tiebreaker

[5] Panth - (Puns), (Puns), (Chris), (Chris), (Scare), Balla, Sultan, (Lea), Lea, Puns, Scare
[5] Puns - Chris, Tange, Death, (Hb), (Corrik), (Scare), (Corrik), Hb, Panth

Lea votes HB (4-5)
Puns finally claims.
Lea switches to Chris. Sultan follows(3-5)
Red unvotes Scare and votes Panth for not claiming/appearing(4-5)
Corrik votes Red. Day ends, Puns is lynched.

Looking back on it all...

I like Chris and Tange starting and being early on Puns respectively.
Death and HB are kind of in that spot where scum likes to sneak in, but I don't hate either of their votes.
Panth votes Puns regardless of alignment.

Balla said they vote Panth "Because Chris said so" but they don't do anything regarding Puns?

Scare's vote I don't really like. While town can benefit from a tie to have more time to talk... I feel like Puns really didn't earn it at that point.

Red's vote really looks like he tried to save and just didn't have another person around. He doesn't vote Puns when he's dicking around with his claim, but votes Panth for not claiming?

Lea's votes are all over the place. I don't like how she basically ignored the lynches at the end. However, she had the chance to save Puns(Or at least give him one last chance with Sudden Death) and choose not to.

Does Scum Corrik attempt to save Puns in this scenario? Though I feel like his attempt to special Red was typical behavior.

Uwnim only voted Red
MZero only voted 5tar
Damion only voted Lea
Lolo did not place a vote.
5tar only voted Chris.

I feel like Red's flip tells us about Scare. If Red is scum, so is he.
##Unvote: Balla
##Vote: Red


Okay... so let's look at this...

"I like Chris and Tange starting and being early on Puns respectively." Both town.
"Death and HB are kind of in that spot where scum likes to sneak in, but I don't hate either of their votes." HB Scum
Panth is scum. He points out the counter vote.

"Balla said they vote Panth "Because Chris said so" but they don't do anything regarding Puns?


Scare's vote I don't really like. While town can benefit from a tie to have more time to talk... I feel like Puns really didn't earn it at that point.

Red's vote really looks like he tried to save and just didn't have another person around. He doesn't vote Puns when he's dicking around with his claim, but votes Panth for not claiming?

Lea's votes are all over the place. I don't like how she basically ignored the lynches at the end. However, she had the chance to save Puns(Or at least give him one last chance with Sudden Death) and choose not to.

Does Scum Corrik attempt to save Puns in this scenario? Though I feel like his attempt to special Red was typical behavior.

Shades, Red, Lea, Me at the end. Red Town. Lea pretty much confirmed Town. I am confirmed not SCUM (even if you think I am SK still *sigh*. So, this is all shading town here. But, the interesting part is...

"Death and HB are kind of in that spot where scum likes to sneak in, but I don't hate either of their votes."

Are these both scum here? It's something to think about.

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04/17/20 2:31:13 PM
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htaeD posted...
I mean I am still pretty sure the bomblayer is just you, Corrik.
It isn't. So, maybe go re-read the game also if you are town.

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04/17/20 2:37:55 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted... Hiya. 5tar is scum. Let's go over why~
In Phoenix Wright Mafia, his presence on day 1 was clearly on the outside looking in. He spoke more in absolutes to establish his presence and did not push the needle very much. Compare this to the other recent games he's been in, where he was far more effective a presence day 1. In IGCD's game, I got into it with him pretty early, after he went after Aecioo. I never saw any sign of that fire or care reading his day 1 posts this game. He asked one meaningful question of another player the entire time, and made a few hard-read statements on people. Compare this to last game as well, where he notably said late in the day that he had no hard reads at all.

5tar voted for Chris early this game for weak, stretching reasons, then tried to retroactively justify the vote, then quickly removed the vote anyway, to which he drew pressure from Chris. Nothing 5tar said convinced me there was a scumhunting mindset behind this vote. This led to a vote from MZero on 5star, who has done very little himself. Now, while on the surface the vote looks like MZero is probably not scum with him, it brings up another issue. First though, the vote:

5tarscream posted...

I think Scare looked bad but not scum. I think he looks bad to everyone outside of his mind space because Im assuming he had a very specific response he expected from Tange and he got something very different. To me it looked like Range didnt want to do Scares work for him which by itself isnt alignment indicative.

The problem is to everyone else that wasnt that big a deal and Scare could easily have done it himself, but to Scare it ticked a box in his head that nobody else saw.

I think hes probably town.

I think Balla is attempting to look busy.

I think Chris is either scum or not bothered, Corrik could be using this as an opportunity to eliminate Chris early without wasting a kill or he could just think Chris is scum. Chris has town cleared a lot of people so far.

##vote: Chris
This to me reads as "Let's throw a vote on Chris to look like I'm being edgy".

The fact that both of them have not made a single meaningful contribution to the game since that vote makes it likelier to me that scum MZero was tossing a vote on his teammate in order to look better later. It's highly curious at best that both of those players just happened to vanish into the ether immediately following the MZero on 5tar vote.

If I had to take a guess, I think scum tried to kill Chris night 1, Chris got saved, and 5tar is an afraid that Chris will murder him the moment he tries to do anything. That part is just speculation of course~

While the initial inclination at the end of day 2 was to think Balla is scum, Balla's level of arrogance worries me into thinking that may have been a town/town lynch. Like... Nobody died night 1, and he openly mocked Chris for not dying night 1. From my admittedly limited experience on the matter, statements like that usually come from arrogant town who don't really care about the game. Scum generally doesn't think about making a post like this:

BallaLeonHall posted...

member when he was supposed to die N1 cause he's such a good player?

Corrik7 posted...

Yeah. It was weird.

Balla you should claim if you haven't.

I find this statement to be questionable though. Corrik's response was in a position to be more calculated, and his response was to call Chris not dying, on a night with no deaths, "weird", and to demand Balla's claim. He both provides Balla fuel on Chris and demands his claim. He also ends the day on an obviously meaningless splinter, again. I currently think Corrik is more likely to be scum than Balla. My current theory is that the lynch was town/town, and scum Corrik avoided it. He did nothing to end day 1 or 2 but sit there and demand claims. He did little resembling an attempt to help town lynch scum on either day, and has ended both days on an Hb splinter.

5tar is a dead obvious vote for me. Corrik is probably scum. MZero is probably scum. Chris is probably town. Balla is probably town. Lea's low energy worries me, but she is probably town. I feel like scum Lea would try to manipulate the flow of the game more. This feels like she's town that wants other people to solve the game for her. I would also say it feels consistent with how she was acting near the end of Simpsons Mafia.

I will say though, when reading the end of day 1, I thought Puns and Panthera were both scum. I just don't quite trust Panthera to call him town.

Balla's read is based almost entirely on his end of day 2 arrogance. I don't have any real problem with the way he prodded and eventually voted for Red. I've seen that sequence of posts before. It looks so badly scummy, and half the time it comes from town. One thing here is the vote itself was unnecessary. The only reason Red almost lived is because of how bad that vote looked in the first place and how many votes it drew to Balla.

Anyone I haven't mentioned I either have no definitive read on or did not do a dedicated search of/pay enough attention to. I read the last hours of both days, and various things in between, but I did not read every post in the game because I didn't want to risk overloading myself. I didn't anticipate writing a wall to begin with, and I think there's a chance I might be dead before I even get a chance to talk. There could be something critical I've overlooked (especially regarding Balla), so feel free to point me in a direction on something to read.

##Vote: Star

He is far and above my #1 scum read. Except this part just got messed up, due to that replace.

...##Vote: Plum

Don't care. Replaced my #1 scum read.

I am gonna post all of Crescent's instant walls every day hold up. Let me analyze them.

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04/17/20 2:38:02 PM
#43:


Crescent-Moon posted... Ok, so, three hours after writing that, I continued and ISOed Scare. Scare defended 5tar in topic 2, came out of nowhere to vote Puns (and get a meaningless countervote) with less than 10 minutes left, then changed to Panthera with about 1 minute left for... No reason I can figure out. Awful first day for Scare. He does nothing on topic 3 aside from call Damion town and shade three people calling him scum, but he picks it back up in topic 4 after the cop claim. Speaking of the cop claim, town now has 4 claimed or dead scanners. Uwmin is the one I would say I trust the most of them, since Puns is probably traumatized by motion detector. I am wondering if Sultan is scum tracker. I was also wondering if Sultan is scum tracker before I even went into this meta. Red's role did not seem particularly useful, but Scare had an easy opportunity to go after Red and he didn't. Scare is the player I always seem to scumread but I got it right at the last moment last time. I'm tentatively ok with him for now.

The only thing giving me any confidence at all in Panthera is.. Puns being so adamant about lynching him for the last two hours of the day. Panthera's actual play has done nothing for me. Also of note from Puns that I just found:

turbopuns3 posted...

5tar reads as just posture-y and overly confident to me. Could just be personality though. I don't see much apparent scuminess at the moment
This is a *really* soft defense of 5tar, and its the very next post after MZero's vote on him. This makes me feel a bit better about MZero. I don't know if Puns would feel the need to defend 5tar so quickly if MZero is also scum. I am confident enough that 5tar is scum to base other thoughts around him being scum.

Ok so a bit later it hit me who Balla directly reminds me of. I had a game once, long ago. There was this player named "Pinxed" in it. I have no idea here he came from, but I've never seen him since. He was abrasive and self-centered in his behavior, and his scum hunting was almost nonexistent. He played and voted more for his own amusement than for anything other reason. I was scum that got blocked sending the kill in night 1, and after town lynched the roleblocker who blocked me night 1 on day 2. He managed to annoy so many people with his blatantly anti-town behavior that he got himself lynched over nearly-confirmed scum me.

I just realized I have paid zero attention to Death, let's fix that.

htaeD posted...

On the other hand, 5tar, you vote Chris yet you sound like you're not even sure if Corrik or Chris is scum. Why is that?
His reaction to the 5tar vote on Chris is similar to mine.

htaeD posted...

I didnt expect an unvote there

Wait so you are entirely okay with Chris' claim now, 5tar?

Because your first reason for disliking it was not the same as the one Chris corrected you on.

Death isn't hesitating to call out 5tar. He's asking a whole lot of questions in general.

htaeD posted...

Oh right that.

You even mentioned that point in the post.

Timing of the vote itself still seems a bit convenient, but I cant deny I had the same reaction to Sultans '100 % wrong' comment.

In fact I dont know why people call Panth's vote the worst when we have Tange/Scare and even Puns around.

htaeD posted...

Puns is even giving me a deja vu feeling.

Ok, I don't feel like I need to read Death anymore right now. He was after Puns in earnest early (he has more anti Puns posts after this, back before Puns was the lead lynch), and he called out 5tar. Put him in the good pile.

So in summation, there's 6 people I don't want to lynch right now.
Chris, Balla, Lea, Death, Uwnim, and Scare.
My #1 scumread is 5tar. My #2 scumread is Corrik. I wouldn't necessarily be "against" a lynch like MZero or DYL, but I do not prefer them.
Actually, I'm ok putting Hb in the "don't want to lynch right now pile" mainly because of the end of day 1. He voted Puns right before momentum swung back towards Panthera. It isn't enough for me to call him town (Both because Puns' role looked useless and because I don't trust Panthera), but it's enough that he should probably be off the table for today.

Hbthebattle posted...

MZero still just feels a bit too active to be scum Zero, and I liked Daimons energy quite a lot yesterday. 5tar Im decidedly neutral on, so he could be there but Im not confident on that.

Im gonna say the most likely scum team is Red, Balla, Scare, and one of DYL/Lolo.

But wow.. This post. This post might end up being so inaccurate it actually ends up looking good..

Ok, out of time now. Let's kill 5tar when the day comes up~



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04/17/20 2:40:57 PM
#44:


Dark Young Link posted... Soo I went to bed with a headache. Woke up with that headache still there. Then I decided "Guess I'll take some Nyquil. I just woke up so surely it do what mama said and knock me out."

Yeeeeeeah.

Anyway let's start with the Terrific Tracker Trio (Sultan/Uwnim/and 5tar(now Plum)

Sultan and Uwnim shared some suspicion about Red due to him "counterclaiming" Ben's obvious fake claim but not going on him. Sultan goes in far harder though. Goes after Chris a bit, weirdly hints power, asks for a same time... and then just claims without doing the sametime anyway. I'm speaking from a biased point of view, but his mini rant about looking like scum if he's too lax or too aggressive makes me like him a bit more. At the very least, I don't think scum pokes chest so early with strong players like he has.

He's originally on Panth during the tiebreaker but hops off on Chris. While Lea did unvote Panth first, Sultan's vote put him at 3, making it extremely unlikely for scum to save Puns at that point unless they stuck their neck way out. Well, unless both were scum but not sure how likely that is.

Attempted to make a tie day 2 but failed.

Tracked Red, was redirected.
Tracked Plum to Lea.

Sultan feels town to me. He has a nice level of aggression, he tries to get reads from people, he isn't afraid to draw attention to himself.

Uwnim starts off a bit awkwardly, seemingly taking Ben's fakeclaim seriously. Ben votes him and unvotes him pretty casually, but it was more than likely just Ben trying to bait him. Casts suspicion on Red for not voting Ben with his "counter claim". He made a post early on I really liked.

An utterly accurate summarization of events, so he's at least paying attention to the game.
Day 1 he doesn't end up on either of the lynch leaders and ended day on Red.

Day 2 he gives a town read of Corrik on Sultan's request, no strong scum read but he still doesn't trust Red. Again ends the day on Red.

Tracked Tange, got movement(Chris gave Tange an item)
Tracked me, got no motion.

I like his decision to track me because I'm not terribly likely to be targeted by scum("He can talk once after flip, get him!") and if any other town targeted me they could just claim that. Overall uwnim has been actively participating in the game. While I feel he hasn't been as aggressive as say Sultan, he's also been trying to figure things out. Probably town.

5tar/plum I notice right away tends to say things that either don't mean much of anything, or are inconclusive. Things like "Lea is lucky she didn't vote Ben right away" or

Chris is scum or not. Corrik could be scum trying to get rid of Chris... or he could just think Chris is scum.

And then he votes Chris. His argument for Chris largely seems to be "Chris isn't taking this game as seriously"... in a game where town died for correctly voting scum. He goes from saying he doesn't like Chris getting a "free Pass" and not taking the game seriously... from saying that neither of those are damning and unvotes him.

Says MZero looks town to him, but never answers why. Ends day being on no one. His whole contribution is basically "Chris may or may not be scum. Corrik may or may not be scum". Voted Chris for extremely flimsy reasons, and never explained anything.

Masterplum replaces

Calls for a mass claims which is an interesting play regardless of alignment.

Claims no action submitted on night 1... Targeted Lea night 2 and got motion(Scare visited) [Sult confirms Plum moved to Lea]

Curious why plum suspects me not moving(Or being targeted by anyone else) would make me scum. Plum doesn't seem to trust Sultan or Lea, which is odd because Sultan confirms his n2 claim.

Plums certainly has played much better, but 5tar's behavior still doesn't make me feel good about him. If there's scum in the three, I'd say it's him.

Sultan
Uwnim
Plum(Formerly 5tar)

I'm gonna analyze this also. Putting here for now.

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04/17/20 2:42:25 PM
#45:


Crescent-Moon posted... ...Survivor cop? Hm, expected Tange to die. Oh, I wrote another wall. I've been trying to stop doing that, but the way I replaced in

Crescent-Moon posted...
....Oops

The way I replaced in mandated it for day 3 and it flowed from there. I'm pointing out something in particular from it first:

People I don't want to lynch today:
Tange, Scare, MZero, Death, Uwnim, Damion, Corrik (Corrik I'm adding reluctantly, but I feel the game doesn't add up if Corrik is scum.)

Surprisingly, Damion found this way onto the list, and it's because of a single post he made back on day 1. I'm specifically calling attention to this because it's in a short part of my wall that may be overlooked and I want it to be discussed.

Beggining of next day walls.

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04/17/20 2:42:30 PM
#46:


Crescent-Moon posted... Well no one else seems to be here anyways, let's get this split up properly...

Ok so. Most of my initial reads were accurate. Panthera is scum. Plum is scum. HB flipping scum breaks open the first day. Hb voted Puns because momentum was starting to swing towards Panthera. Panthera pops in, says "oops I'm late", and votes Puns. The Puns vote is Panthera's only post anywhere near the end of the day. Puns refuses to claim, and refuses to actually fight against the arguments on him. Puns claims his useless role in the tiebreaker, while Panthera does not have a single post.

There's likely 1 scum left after them, the problem is I don't have a good idea of who it might be.

I was writing a short list of general thoughts by player. Plum's section was getting so large, that I'm removing him from that list and dedicating an entire section to him first. For the second day in a row, I'm immediately lambasting the same player slot.

Masterplum is scum. Let's not overcomplicate this. One of the last things Chris said when he was alive was 5tar was scum. The first thing I said entering the game was 5tar was scum. 5tar was by far my #1 scum read entering the game. Puns defended 5tar poorly the moment he got any pressure. Plum has not done anything to make me feel better about this player slot. He defended Panthera as the lynch leader. Panthera is scum. He defended Hb as the lynch leader. Hb was scum.

Plum's primary lynch candidates:

His #1 was apparently Sultan, who's at best a question mark and is at the very least a confirmed tracker unless Tange is also scum.

He said he was ok with lynching Lea despite it being a "10% chance of a scum gambit" and basically just tacked her on at some point. He was clearly more focused on Sultan than on her.

He outright shades Tange's claim, despite later being willing to lynch Scare, when Tange's claim is the primary reason for there being pressure on Scare at all.

In topic 7, he says he could be "convinced" to vote Scare as he's voting Sultan. No context is given why.

Then we get to Balla for "inactivity". This one is the worst of all. This is from topic 6:

Panthera says DYL and Balla are the likeliest to be scum based on play alone in Post #386.

Post #395, Plum asks for a case on Balla. Plum is given an outline by Panthera in the very next post that Balla has not done much overall, and MZero quickly brings up that Balla was scanned town (More town points for MZero!). Plum does not ask about DYL at all.

Post #438, Nothing else has been said about Balla at this point, and Plum is willing to lynch Balla for "inactivity". He cherry picks exactly what he wants to hear from one post by Panthera. I immediately criticized this, as Balla was better than DYL and no worse than Panthera. Plum did not respond to me.

Plum's play does not add up to town play at all. 5tar's didn't either. The one and only thing this slot has going for it is "Wind Chimes" makes total sense as a flavor for "motion detector", and that's not nearly enough.

Now back to the list:

Scare is probably town that Hb was trying to get lynched.

Panthera is scum. My initial read was right. Corrik is right. The lingering questions I'm left with: Does Panthera bus DYL? Does Corrik bus Panthera? Bussing Panthera here seems kind of insane.

Corrik I don't trust (he is impossible to ever trust), but I feel like Plum/Panthera/Corrik doesn't make sense as a scumteam.

Lea hovers between useless and intentionally anti-town, but has an innocent scan on her.

Tange is probably getting shot tonight after the obvious doctor got himself modkilled. It is possible he could be scum, but it would require him acting very out of character from everything I've ever seen from him.

MZero is a probably-town enigma, and technically after that modkill, losing a lynch on testing him does not hurt us (We already lost a mislynch from the modkill itself, an NL day will not hurt us now). Corrik also claimed MZero has a bomb on him, so we can make a person of our choice hammer anyway. This is probably something we should test at some point.

Death I see no reason to scumread at present. I felt this way about him for most of the game in Simpsons Mafia. Also claimed miller to motion detectors after Panthera claimed miller to motion detectors and tracker. Was one of the early people on Puns, and openly suspected 5tar. He would have to be playing a really solid game to be scum.

Sultan is barely active, but is confirmed tracker. I think Sultan is overwhelmed by the level of information flying around the game, which makes me a bit less inclined to jump on him for it.

Uwnim is scum only if the conspiracy theory holds AND both claimed motion detectors are scum. However, Death's claim as a miller to motion detector probably takes Uwnim totally off the table. This is partially dependent on flips, but scum happening to claim motion detector twice in a game where town has a miller for it sure would be odd. So basically, chances are currently very high this slot is town.

DamionDL has been virtually useless. Only claimed vanilla in the game. Has not posted since 2 1/2 hours into day 3.

Crescent Meows

DYL has been almost completely useless. Has a power he has neglected to use in any meaningful way for two out of three nights. The only time he used it, he put someone I town read the moment I entered the game as his #1 scum and apologized for the previous mislynch. He missed deadline yet again, as well.

The problem we most likely have here, is that we have a whole lot of completely useless players, and chances are exactly 1 of them is scum. Losing a mislynch to that MK really hurt in this regard. Assuming 6 scum in the game overall, we now lose on 3 mislynches.

Sultan feels like he fell off a cliff today. I remember nothing he did except for his claimed scan, but he is confirmed tracker.
Lea and Damion are useless, but both have innocent scans.
DYL has been slightly more useful than the above, but has no scan on him except for Uwnim clearing him of motion night 2. Depending on the flips we see, though, this might end up being better than the cop scans.

Occam's razor can be wrong but it suggests one of these four is scum, and ALL of them have a beneficial scan to their credit. Now we can only lynch 3.



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04/17/20 2:43:33 PM
#47:


Crescent-Moon posted... Now then, I want to reanalyze their actions day 1 because I see some juicy things looking back...

DamionDL posted...

##Vote: Lea

My gut is saying this nightmare of Lea posting is Scum trying to make sure Puns is lynched. I don't like it.

Damion's last post of day 1 was a splinter onto Lea. He says it's because Lea's trying to get Puns lynched, while Lea is on Panthera. The vote looks bad in a vacuum. The reasoning is awkward and isn't explained well. You know what though? This post is on the right track. Scum wanted Puns lynched over Panthera. This post feels like it's too on the money about scum's gameplan to have come from scum. This post singlehandedly greatly improved my stance on Damion.

Lea splinters off of Panthera almost as soon as the tiebreaker starts. Asks why Chris is town.

Leanansidhe posted...

Oh Puns, they're gonna murder the hell out of you for that

This is Lea's reaction to Puns' claim. It's... Why?

Chris actively defends Panthera's tiebreaker inactivity, and Lea posts this:
Leanansidhe posted...

He probably just didn't see that there was an actual literal tie in this hell year 2020 but he'll die for the sin of not claiming oh well, maybe he's scum
This post is a disaster. It both defends Panthera and says Panthera might be scum. There doesn't seem to be anything that justifies any of Lea's actions in the tiebreaker. Lea is flat out not trying this game. I'm actually going to be mad if Lea is town and is playing in an intentionally anti-town manner just so she can get herself killed and BS post as a ghost. I honestly would want to put her on ignore for the rest of the game if she flips the role she's claiming.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

##unvote

###vote:Chris

Yolo!

This is one of only two posts Sultan has in the tiebreaker. He has absolutely no given reason for getting off of Panthera or going onto Chris.

DYL has no posts for the last 23 hours or so of day 1, but like both other days, was there shortly after the day ended to post his nonsense after not being present anywhere near EoD.

People I don't want to lynch today:
Tange, Scare, MZero, Death, Uwnim, Damion, Corrik (Corrik I'm adding reluctantly, but I feel the game doesn't add up if Corrik is scum.)

People we need to kill ASAP:
Panthera, Masterplum

The last scum: Lea, Sultan, DYL

This is my current game theory. The modkill cost us a mislynch (The game would practically be over already if it didn't happen), but it means we can test MZero at some point. Given Corrik's claim that MZero has a bomb on him, this seems prudent. I don't think scum MZero fakes this and scum should never have a role that's unlynchable. Scum had a hyper bomb and town has no direct killing power. "Deathproof" doesn't make any sense to be scum. Two bombs on the scumteam doesn't sound right either. Even if he doesn't explode, I'm comfortable calling him solidly town if the lynch doesn't kill him and leaving him at that.

I really hope we get out of tonight with some sort of scan on Corrik. He's the one X factor that worries me the most. I'm worried a lot of our actions are going to get burned on the two already obvious scum.

After we lynch Panthera and Plum, we make someone in that third pool hammer MZero and see what happens. That's probably our best bet. Any power claims we still have left (And with Uwnim, Sultan, Scare, and Tange are all claimed scanners, at least one will still be alive... Well, and I guess Corrik is also a claimed scanner) will get their results before we move into lynching into that pile and give us the most possible information. That's of course assuming scanners don't catch the last scum before then, and that MZero doesn't just explode and take out the last scum anyway.

[4] Hb - (Corrik), (MZero), (Sultan), Balla, Lea, Sultan, (Corrik), Death
[3] Balla - (Lea), (DYL), (Scare), Hb, (Sultan), Plum, Panth
I just looked at this again and this is interesting. There's 3 scum on Balla, but both Lea and Sultan are not, even though they were on Balla at some point. Sultan switched from Balla to Hb after the claim.

Wait a minute, these votes are wrong... Corrik never unvoted Hb before voting for Panthera. I'm not sure how this was entirely missed by everyone, which includes me at the time. Hb ended the day at 5 votes.

So some more tidbits I just noticed while looking at that:

masterplum posted...

I hate these reaction HB votes

Balla, explain your thought process picking chris night 1

The two reaction Hb votes were Sultan and Lea, two people he's tried to make out to be potential scum no matter what happens. Why is he not attacking either of them for this? It was a comment Plum made for the sake of a comment. Sultan AND Lea (who came out of nowhere) have their Hb votes be their last post of the day, each. Hb's vote actually looked rather awful at 3.

It's kind of absurd just how similar the vote patterns of Sultan and Lea have been this game.

masterplum posted...

You guys are acting like scum always acts perfectly. I'm super confidant balls is scum thinking hb is lying

Crescent-Moon posted...

Why would scum think Hb is lying? Why would Hb lie to begin with?

uwnim posted...

Actually full doc trying to act like something less than he really is so he comes across as harmless.

masterplum posted...

Ask corrik why he claimed cop as vanilla or whatever. Sometimes people do things.

Or maybe some power affected something. Idk.

Uwnim is the sensible town reaction. Plum is the scum reaction that reaches for justifications.

Still next day walls.

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04/17/20 2:44:38 PM
#48:


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Corrik7
04/17/20 2:55:24 PM
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"5tar is a dead obvious vote for me. Corrik is probably scum. MZero is probably scum. Chris is probably town. Balla is probably town. Lea's low energy worries me, but she is probably town. I feel like scum Lea would try to manipulate the flow of the game more. This feels like she's town that wants other people to solve the game for her. I would also say it feels consistent with how she was acting near the end of Simpsons Mafia."

5tar is Town. Flipped and confirmed.
Corrik is Town. But you all at least know now not scum. So wrong again.
Mzero ????
Chris is town. Correct.
Balla town. Correct.
Lea likely town. Likely Correct.

"I will say though, when reading the end of day 1, I thought Puns and Panthera were both scum." Panthera was scum. Correct.

Outside of her top 2-3, she likely is correct on every last thing.

Post 2.

So she follows up here wall with another wall.

She comes up with this...

"So in summation, there's 6 people I don't want to lynch right now.
Chris, Balla, Lea, Death, Uwnim, and Scare. (Town, Town, ???, Town, Indy (town to Scum).)
My #1 scumread is 5tar. My #2 scumread is Corrik. I wouldn't necessarily be "against" a lynch like MZero or DYL, but I do not prefer them. (Town, Town, ?????, SCUM)
Actually, I'm ok putting Hb in the "don't want to lynch right now pile" mainly because of the end of day 1. He voted Puns right before momentum swung back towards Panthera. It isn't enough for me to call him town (Both because Puns' role looked useless and because I don't trust Panthera), but it's enough that he should probably be off the table for today." (SCUM).

So, she does this long post at the beginning... her first 2-3 reads are wrong... but everything else absolutely correct.

She follows it up so something must have bothered her about what she presented. And she gets IF DEATH IS TOWN, all Town in her town line. (Indy is Town to scum).

Here 2 top scumreads are both town in 5tar and Corrik. Then she has Mzero and DYL tacked on at the end. As maybes. DYL is scum and the last one she listed. She also didn't really write a single thing about DYL on the entire 2 posts for reads. Like, it's basically void of his name besides mentioning she might be willing to lynch him. Nothing else. This read is totally unexplained. And tacked on the last of her scum reads.

Mzero can't be scum with Crescent if she is scum.

And then the OH BY THE WAY, HB is town endcap. She also doesn't even seem to mention Damion at all unless I missed him.


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Corrik7
04/17/20 2:57:27 PM
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So to sum up that post 2. If Crescent is the last scum (the role redirector), she put literally all perceived town to her in the first line of town reads. Both her top scum reads are town. Then she only tosses scum into the end of the maybe. Hell she said Puns/Panthera to her looked scum/scum but she doesn't even have Panthera in her scumreads.

This wall looks very crafted by scum atm. These are just the first walls. I wanna see how this continues.

Looking at just these 2 posts. Crescent is SCUM and not the SK in this scenario.

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