Board 8 > anyone else here kind of disappointed with FF7R so far?

(+) Yeah! (+)

The trainyard area went on a little too long, imo, but I like what they were going for. OG FFVII's enemy designs are really out there, and Remake does a pretty great job of contextualizing every single one of them. Maybe it tries a little too hard in some places and ends up stretching itself thin, but I enjoyed most of the new / expanded areas (with one exception near the end). The worldbuilding is pretty phenomenal.

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Alright. All side quests completed! Unless there's secret ones or whatever. Now to finish all Chadley's crap and grind a bunch to get all my weapon skills and materia just the way I want before I climb the wall.

Really don't see a world in which I do the quest to get every Elemental Materia to level 3. No way am I doing that busy work with Poison at 0 AP points.

turbopuns3 posted...

Alright. All side quests completed! Unless there's secret ones or whatever. Now to finish all Chadley's crap and grind a bunch to get all my weapon skills and materia just the way I want before I climb the wall.

There's actually a better grinding spot and Chadley access past that point if you want to hold off...if you really feel like you have to grind that out before post-game, where it'll be even easier.

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Man every time I boot this up I leave the title screen on a bit

Prelude really is great

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Polycosm posted...

The trainyard area went on a little too long, imo, but I like what they were going for. OG FFVII's enemy designs are really out there, and Remake does a pretty great job of contextualizing every single one of them. Maybe it tries a little too hard in some places and ends up stretching itself thin, but I enjoyed most of the new / expanded areas (with one exception near the end). The worldbuilding is pretty phenomenal.

That section and Reactor 5 in particular feels like it has so much padding.

Like on one hand they haven't done a bad job of fleshing it out but on the other hand if they kept things a bit closer to the original then I feel like they could have gone up to Nibelheim or something for the end of this game. Disclaimer being I haven't finished the game yet so don't know if that would make sense.

Sure, but they didn't want to get as far as possible in one game. Their whole goal was to massively expand Midgar.

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Had they stuck to the original, they coulda opted to use the flashback in Kalm.

Are we gonna start Part 2 with the Flashback or just skip the Ranch/Mines and start straight from Junon?
Part 2 starting point could be interesting.

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Leonhart4 posted...

Sure, but they didn't want to get as far as possible in one game. Their whole goal was to massively expand Midgar.

Which would have been fine if they expanded different parts of Midgar. I know they added a few extra areas but not many. I'm sure most people would have preferred to see more of actual Midgar rather than long ass windy dungeons for the sake of adding length

I think people would have been upset if they made too many new areas instead of expanding on familiar locations though

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I think they decided early on to end it at the story point they did since it leaves the next part way more open (see my earlier prediction on what part 2 is).

At that point it was just how to expand Part 1 to be a full game.

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One thing I thought was very odd, and maybe I'm wrong but I tried really hard to look for it, in the brief times where you do have all 4 in the party towards the end it still won't let you switch up your combat team. The arena let's you pick your team, but there is never a point where you have all 4 and can access the arena.

Man I suck at this game. Doing Chapter 9, Hell House was really tough but I'm pretty sure it's more because I need to get good. I didn't die but I spent like 20 minutes in a stalemate running around healing while doing no damage. Every time there would be an opening to use a spell against his current weakness, his barrier would come up after I had already cast.

I audibly laughed when it appeared though. It's such a goofy enemy in the original game. People unfamilar with the original will probably think it's dumb but it was probably my favorite bit of fanservice yet. Assuming there is a Coliseum in Part 2 (it seems likely if Golden Saucer is included) then I wouldn't mind them reusing the gag with Ghost Ship, which is the other hilariously goofy FF7 enemy and was a pretty common final enemy in the Battle Square IIRC.

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Maniac64 posted...

I think they decided early on to end it at the story point they did since it leaves the next part way more open (see my earlier prediction on what part 2 is).

At that point it was just how to expand Part 1 to be a full game.

Yeah, I don't expect them to go in a completely different direction from here on out. Cloud has already flash forwarded to famous scenes from the original game, and the staff has said they want to still hit the main story beats from the original.

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SavageInTheBox posted...

Man I suck at this game. Doing Chapter 9, Hell House was really tough but I'm pretty sure it's more because I need to get good. I didn't die but I spent like 20 minutes in a stalemate running around healing while doing no damage. Every time there would be an opening to use a spell against his current weakness, his barrier would come up after I had already cast.

I audibly laughed when it appeared though. It's such a goofy enemy in the original game. People unfamilar with the original will probably think it's dumb but it was probably my favorite bit of fanservice yet. Assuming there is a Coliseum in Part 2 (it seems likely if Golden Saucer is included) then I wouldn't mind them reusing the gag with Ghost Ship, which is the other hilariously goofy FF7 enemy and was a pretty common final enemy in the Battle Square IIRC.

Had the exact same issue and it was basically the only fight in game it's happened to me with. Loved the fight for the throwback. Hated it for the actual mechanics and how long it took me. I think I just needed to be better at hitting weaknesses but that fight sucked so bad. That is going to be hellish on hard mode

My girlfriend decided to record my fight against Hell House.

Took me 22:13 to beat the motherfucker so it's not just you Tim.

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Hell House was the hardest fight on the game.

Rufus was the best one.

Really all the one-on-one's were great, but I had just gotten counter from the Twin Stinger and retooled Cloud to be a physical only blocking, dodging, and parrying God, and it was basically like I was playing Metal Gear Rising, in every sense of the word really considering the setting of the fight.

DEAD ON

That makes sense, I still didn't switch to Twin Stinger and found the Rufus fight to be pretty difficult, I even died once. And I was breezing through all the boss fights at that point & afterwards too. I was also never good at the MGS games I did play, lol...

It's a real Raiden vs Sam fight, lol. He even has his own Bladewolf. Hell, there's a definitive point in the fight where you would switch from the instrumental version of the rock song to the lyrical version.

As for the difficulty, from what I can tell Triple Strike is guaranteed to sever the leash and Pressure the dog every single time.

Hell House on Hard was way easier than I expected. Only took 1 try.

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It took me awhile, then I tried Bad Breath on it and was stunned to learn that actually works. Sucks to be Hell House

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Ok just picked this up finally!

download time: (5 hours left)

what the fuck

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ok just got to chapter 5. Not disappointed still. I really like them giving more screen time to B, W, & J.

maybe a little worried about how much screen time weird ghosts are getting though

Oh well. Aint no stopping this train were on.
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Nearing the end of chapter 16 I was wondering if I would hit 300% stagger or not before the end of my first playthrough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R4Iy3_YXbE

Thanks True Strike

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they sure reference pizza a lot in this game
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ain't no gettin off this pizza we on

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I only ever hit 160% stagger when I get it. How can you break 200/300%?

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I got it against Hell House without trying....somehow...

The actual trick I saw which I had been planning on doing was to just stagger Fat Chocobo in the VR battle and continuously spam True Strike with Tifa.

I mean I do it right in that video

Unbridled strength twice before the stagger and build up another full ATB meter

once the stagger happens unleash the full Triangle combo to build to 210%, then two True Strikes to get it up to 270% then just build up enough ATB for one more True Strike to hit 300%

the real trick is finding an enemy who's stagger lasts long enough to do all that


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Fat chocobo?

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If you haven't been doing battle intel, you should catch up!

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ninkendo posted...

Nearing the end of chapter 16 I was wondering if I would hit 300% stagger or not before the end of my first playthrough

for a second i thought you had dubbed sora's voice over this video

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

There's actually a better grinding spot and Chadley access past that point if you want to hold off...if you really feel like you have to grind that out before post-game, where it'll be even easier.

Thank you, this is definitely 200% better lol

How the hell did they not see them on top of the truck lmfao

Also a sign of how entwined gamefaqs/this board is with this game to me - one of the security officers literally said "did they do this?" and my first thought was it was a reference to "did teh zolomy do this" only to then realize how nonsensical that is

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Finished getting all weapon skills. I'm actually loving the Shinra combat simulator. Grinding is fun and I feel like I'm just now finally learning how to play the game really well. Before I was always too anxious to get to the next story point to ever sit down and take my time mastering all the little things. Hell I played all the way to this point with only 2 weapon skills unlocked for each character.

Wait where IS the midgar zolom? Been waiting to understand that dumbass meme for 15 years

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How useful the skills have been so far on Hard

Cloud:
Triple Slash/Focused Thrust/Infinity's End > Blade Burst > Braver > Disorder

Triple Slash is your constant spam move, just always be using it.
Focused Thrust is a move I barely used at first but on hard the struggle to stagger is real.
Infinity's End is just so damn strong, when you stagger, use it. 9999.
Blade Burst is great for groups of weak enemies and also the shield soldiers.
Braver is fine, but its just not useful.
Disorder is only good in very specific fights and even then I never really use it.

Tifa:
True Strike > Focused Strike > Overpower > Starshower > Divekick > Chi Trap

True Strike Stagger % up!
Focused Strike Stagger is good
Overpower great for pressure and also paired with Elemental+Fire makes he tear through stuff
Starshower great for clusters of enemiers
Divekick mostly useless
Chi Trap haven't used it on hard

Unbridled Strength should be your best friend as Tifa. Use it twice then spam triangle

Barret:
Maximum Fury > Focused Shot > Smackdown/Point Blank/Charging Uppercut > Lifesaver

Maximum Fury is just a delight, great for groups.
Focused Shot same as other focused moves. Stagger is your friend
Smackdown I never use this on hard
Point Blank Also never use
Charging Uppercut Same
Lifesaver Useless

Aeris:
Arcane Ward > ATB Ward > Sorcerous Storm > Lustrous Shield > Ray of Judgment/Fleeting Familiar

Honestly you will almost always be using her charges for Cure or Magic but I digress.

Arcane Ward Great for bosses
ATB Ward Great in theory except it costs 2 charges
Sorcerous Storm very useful when MP is running low vs lightning weak enemies
Lustrous Shield If you have an extra charge somehow, this is a good skill to pop
Ray of Judgment useless, they always move out of the way, if they are staggered only
Fleeting Familiar useless

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Chi Trap is good against shielded enemies like the crabs in the sewers, completely melts them

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foolm0r0n posted...

Wait where IS the midgar zolom? Been waiting to understand that dumbass meme for 15 years

hes outside midgar in the original. I think this game ends before Zolom would show up.

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I just started up original VII again out of curiosity and it turns out Barret references pizza the first time youre on the train

So I guess all the pizza references in this one arent actually weird

Tifas trepidation about being involved in Avalanche seems to be totally invented for the remake though, thats interesting

also wtf is the word Texas doing on this sign above the bar

ok ill stop now before I accidentally turn this into my personal FFVII play through topic

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

hes outside midgar in the original. I think this game ends before Zolom would show up.

Midgar --> Kalm --> Chocobo Farm ---> Mythril Mines guarded by Zolomy

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I don't have any limit breaks yet apart from the ones I started with and Refocus

I did the Colosseum ones for Cloud and Aerith but they don't appear

Idk

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There's even a song in the original OST called "Underneath the Rotting Pizza" so that was definitely a thing back then, too.

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You have to set them in the battle hotkeys menu for some dumb reason.

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XIII_rocks posted...

I don't have any limit breaks yet apart from the ones I started with and Refocus

I did the Colosseum ones for Cloud and Aerith but they don't appear

Idk

You need to go into Battle Settings in the menu and change their Limit Break.

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Ah
Thanks

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Even when I got Cloud's new one I wouldn't change it.... because I would wait until the end of the battle to use his limit as the killing blow, and I would jump off my couch and make the cross slash motions in the air while he unleashed them.

....it was very satisfying.

But the new limit is even more satisfying as a finishing blow. Also it completely wrecks a lot of fights

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I barely even get his limit break to use lol

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