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Bio1590 04/06/20 7:43:38 PM #105: |
GregorTheBug posted...
That's 15% of all ICU cases not resolved ones. If you just look at discharged vs died, it's basically 50/50 (344 vs 346 I believe). I'll have to find the other numbers, originally saw it on Reddit. I think the 75% was NY's numbers. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/06/20 7:52:20 PM #106: |
Tired-Insomniac posted...
Not a fair statement. The US has a much larger population and a different healthcare system. Just looking at broad ICU surivor percentages tells you nothing If you can afford it, the healthcare in the US is actually a higher standard --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The23rdMagus 04/06/20 7:54:36 PM #107: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Not a fair statement.That's a big if. --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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645AR 04/06/20 8:02:03 PM #108: |
If you can afford it, the healthcare in the US is actually a higher standard "if you can afford to pay me off i wont shoot you in the face" --- sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 04/06/20 8:10:35 PM #109: |
645AR posted...
"if you can afford to pay me off i wont shoot you in the face"What a dumb post. Whose shitty alt are you? Proudclad? --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Talk2DaHand 04/06/20 8:12:56 PM #110: |
Irony posted...
What a dumb post. Whose shitty alt are you? Proudclad? He's not wrong tho --- "The wise speak only of what they know." - J.R.R. Tolkien ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 04/06/20 8:17:29 PM #111: |
Irony posted...
Proudclad was not known for his opposition to US healthcare --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 04/06/20 8:21:32 PM #112: |
Antifar posted...
Proudclad was not known for his opposition to US healthcareHe's flip flopped before. Primarily on shit like automation --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 04/06/20 8:22:02 PM #113: |
Talk2DaHand posted...
He's not wrong thoYes he is --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GregorTheBug 04/06/20 8:24:17 PM #114: |
Bio1590 posted...
That's 15% of all ICU cases not resolved ones. If you just look at discharged vs died, it's basically 50/50 (344 vs 346 I believe). Oh yes absolutely. In another post I pointed this out. I just think it's important if people quote the 50/50 figure they know the full picture and that it's a dynamic situation. Makes great headlines though. Posting such stats only including those who have completed without knowing what those who are currently still in ICU, while true based on the current data available, is almost certainly not going to give an accurate representation of the reality either. It's probably why the stats come with a massive caveat in the document. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biscotti 04/06/20 8:28:36 PM #115: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Not a fair statement. Welcome back from Warned. You are currently in the UK. How much money do you have homeboy? Will you avail yourself of the NHS? For which you have paid a maximum of, what, 1 years National Insurance? Or you gonna fund testing and treatment yourself? Since, you're not a citizen on the country you're in right now? I'll wait. @UnfairRepresent --- Ohhh, Elden Ring! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/06/20 8:34:26 PM #116: |
Biscotti posted...
I was warned for like a couple of hours because 2 users called me a Nazi (Yes really) then it was overturned with an apology without even being contested. Biscotti posted...
You trying to make this personal is sad and shows you already have no faith in your argument. I'm not attacking the NHS or defending the US' healthcare syste (Far from it), I'm just pointing out how it's silly to take a random blanket statistic from different systems of different nations with different populations and then reach conclusions from it. Other users have already pointed out that the relevant figure is closer to 50/50 and that's even worse in private hospitals in the UK. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biscotti 04/06/20 8:36:49 PM #117: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
I was warned for like a couple of hours because 2 users called me a Nazi (Yes really) then it was overturned with an apology without even being contested. Where, since you are in England, will you source your healthcare from? It's a very simple question. You have a choice. --- Ohhh, Elden Ring! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/06/20 8:37:42 PM #118: |
Yeah I'll tell you that
Right at the same time I tell you my social security number, first pets name and mother maiden name. Shut up --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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solosnake 04/06/20 8:38:39 PM #119: |
Anyone got an update on Boris?
Im worried :( --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biscotti 04/06/20 8:39:00 PM #120: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Yeah I'll tell you that You are a guest in my country. I've been a guest in yours. 'Shut up' doesn't cut it. If you become unwell, where will you go? --- Ohhh, Elden Ring! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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soulunison2 04/06/20 8:39:20 PM #121: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Yeah I'll tell you that lmao you got proven wrong and now you insult the dude as a result of it, ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/06/20 8:40:28 PM #122: |
Got proven wrong about what?
All I said was that it is silly to judge entire healthcare systems based on one misleading ICE statistic and the other guy went off on weird personal attacks and rants. This is the same guy who asked me to PM him my location so he can come and fight me for the record. And he was never seen again --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biscotti 04/06/20 8:41:00 PM #123: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Got proven wrong about what? I'm right here my friend. --- Ohhh, Elden Ring! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biscotti 04/06/20 8:45:36 PM #125: |
@UnfairRepresent
You have a high fever, cough, shakes. Where are your principles now? You are in England. For those reading this thread UR is literally in England. Trapped, with free healthcare, How deep is your wallet? Because you can get treated for free, or you can keep coughing and shit-posting, and pay privately for everything you desire. --- Ohhh, Elden Ring! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 04/06/20 8:46:46 PM #126: |
Oh I guess that answers my question regarding who was shitting up this topic
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GregorTheBug 04/06/20 8:47:47 PM #127: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Not a fair statement. Looking specifically at Health in the US the number of people without Health Insurance is increasing. So those that can afford it is decreasing. What good is a higher standard of healthcare (I question that to be honest but we can cover that later) if it isn't accessible for an increasing number of people? Let's look at the facts. NOTE: These are from official data from the government. Sources are below. 25.6 million people didn't have health care insurance for the entire year of 2017. This increased to 27.5 million in 2018. For the country with the highest GDP in the world by a significant margin and a GDP per Capita value that puts the US at 11th this should be shocking news for Americans to read. Worth bearing in mind that the US being 11th on the list of highest GDP per Capita also puts it as the number one G20 country on the list. So why is it struggling so much to provide healthcare to an increasing number of it's citizens compared to countries that have weaker economies? https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2019/demo/p60-267.html https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-gdp/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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soulunison2 04/06/20 8:47:49 PM #128: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Got proven wrong about what? im not arguing with you lol go answer the question ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/06/20 8:52:19 PM #129: |
GregorTheBug posted...
You're preaching to the choir man. . So why is it struggling so much to provide healthcare to an increasing number of it's citizens compared to countries that have weaker economies? Conservatives. Boris Johnson, Cameron and May have been trying to do the same thing for a decade now in the UK and no one cares, hell they are massively popular. "Rich get what they want fuck everyone else." soulunison2 posted...
Because you have no argument. "You got proven wrong." "about?" "I CANT TELL YOU!" Yeah figured. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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soulunison2 04/06/20 8:52:42 PM #130: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Because you have no argument. oh shit you're really having a melty rn lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MT_TRAEH 04/06/20 8:53:29 PM #131: |
rip in pieces
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Biscotti 04/06/20 8:55:39 PM #132: |
soulunison2 posted...
oh shit you're really having a melty rn lol It's 2am here. Poor dude, cooped up in a democracy, with free healthcare. It's hell out there, absolute hell. --- Ohhh, Elden Ring! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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soulunison2 04/06/20 8:56:15 PM #133: |
Biscotti posted...
It's 2am here. Poor dude, cooped up in a democracy, with free healthcare. man i just wanna goad him into a melty ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/06/20 8:56:36 PM #134: |
Biscotti posted...
No it's not. It's 1:55 --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Roxborough4Ever 04/06/20 8:57:43 PM #135: |
soulunison2 posted...
oh shit you're really having a melty rn lol lmao i have been on gamefaqs for the most part since xmas and you are still using the term "meltdown" when people post the 180 degree opinion you have....good to know things never change --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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soulunison2 04/06/20 8:58:31 PM #136: |
Roxborough4Ever posted...
lmao i have been on gamefaqs for the most part since xmas and you are still using the term "meltdown" when people post the 180 degree opinion you have....good to know things never change fuck meltys are so good ... Copied to Clipboard!
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twitterfriends 04/06/20 8:59:30 PM #137: |
I'm sorry but he's a politician, they're going to go above and beyond to try and save his life with the very best doctors.
There are many grocery store workers who already have died because they were considered 'essential' and they probably struggled to get any quality care. I'm sorry but that's just how I feel. --- #NotMyPresident #JusticeDemocrats #Neblio #WolfPAC #Bitcoin #WeAre12 #12thMan #Seahawks #Belieber #DENT #UBI #PokemonGo #twitterfriends #MMA #PopularHashtags ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/06/20 8:59:53 PM #138: |
Roxborough4Ever posted...
He hasn't even stated an opinion. He just said "you're wrong" to someone without specifying what about and then mass spammed saying "melty" over and over. It's weird. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biscotti 04/06/20 9:00:15 PM #139: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
No it's not. And 27 minutes ago, according to Google UK, Boris went into ICU. Where ya gonna go UR? Where you gonna go? --- Ohhh, Elden Ring! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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soulunison2 04/06/20 9:00:24 PM #140: |
who posted
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UnfairRepresent 04/06/20 9:02:31 PM #141: |
twitterfriends posted...
I'm sorry but he's a politician, they're going to go above and beyond to try and save his life with the very best doctors. I don't get it Boris Johnson shouldn't get care because a hypothetical grocery store worker didn't? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GregorTheBug 04/06/20 9:06:03 PM #142: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Boris Johnson, Cameron and May have been trying to do the same thing for a decade now in the UK and no one cares, hell they are massively popular. Firstly. Full disclosure. I'm not a Boris fan. In the lead up to the 2020 General Election I was very vocal about why I didn't want him in power. That being said... Why are you including Johnson in that list? Let's review his last decade (and beyond). He was Mayor of London from 2008 - 2016 and a backbencher between 2018 - 2019. His only cabinet position was Foreign Secretary for two years between 2016 - 2018 which he did an absolutely disastrous job and resigned from. From what I can see and research he's hardly been instrumental in the state the NHS currently is in. Especially as for most of the last decade he's not being on the frontbench and more than half of that time he wasn't even in Government. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biscotti 04/06/20 9:06:42 PM #143: |
Don't worry UR, your country won't leave you behind.
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UnfairRepresent 04/06/20 9:14:04 PM #144: |
uuugh they made a 28 days later sequel?
Why? Who asked for that? GregorTheBug posted...
The conservatives having been selling off and privatising parts of the NHS for years. Making access to medicene and procedures harder. Johnson himself has stated he doesn't think the NHS should be free and people should pay for it despite being taxed. The only thing stopping them have been people like me challenging them. People like you sit by and don't care. Then go and vote conservative --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Iron-Tarkus 04/06/20 9:15:32 PM #145: |
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1212679425629859840?s=20
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twitterfriends 04/06/20 9:18:27 PM #146: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't get it Don't get so butthurt over another man who doesn't know you exist dude, I didn't even say that I said people couldn't care less about grocery store workers dying and they're helping them be fed yet this guy is going to get premier care from the best doctors I'm not going to stop in my tracks and pretend like expressing my sympathy for him is going to help at all Freaking butthurt kid --- #NotMyPresident #JusticeDemocrats #Neblio #WolfPAC #Bitcoin #WeAre12 #12thMan #Seahawks #Belieber #DENT #UBI #PokemonGo #twitterfriends #MMA #PopularHashtags ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bover_87 04/06/20 9:18:38 PM #147: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
This is the most UnfairRepresent post in the history of UnfairRepresent. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Arbiter's Tome/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 04/06/20 9:20:19 PM #148: |
Yeah I dunno why people are feeding them so much this topic. The accounts gonna get so fat it explodes
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Biscotti 04/06/20 9:26:08 PM #149: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
An american under lockdown in London? What video game is playing in your head? Where will you go for healthcare? It's a very simple question. --- Ohhh, Elden Ring! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GregorTheBug 04/06/20 9:29:26 PM #150: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Johnson himself has stated he doesn't think the NHS should be free and people should pay for it despite being taxed. You claimed that Johnson had been trying to do it for a decade. I was just pointing out he's not been in a position to. If you feel like he has I'd like to see some real documented proof for your claims. I'll address your new points in a separate post to avoid confusion so you can reply to this one directly. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/06/20 9:31:13 PM #151: |
Biscotti posted...
Hoping to play RE3 tomorrow It was supposed to arrive today but UK post sucks Where will you go for healthcare? It's a very simple question. Sainsburys twitterfriends posted...
This doesn't make much sense no matter how many times you say "butthurt" You have no empathy and don't care about someone suffering because someone else might hypothetically not care about someone else suffering? wut... --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GregorTheBug 04/06/20 9:31:19 PM #152: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Johnson himself has stated he doesn't think the NHS should be free and people should pay for it despite being taxed. Can you back this claim up? As already mentioned numerous times I'm not a Johnson or Tory fan but if you're going to make claims like this then it's still appropriate for you to provide sources. At the very least it will add some more ammo to my arsenal in future debates for people defending him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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twitterfriends 04/06/20 10:42:51 PM #153: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
hypothetically And as much you throw out the word hypothetical it's not going to dismiss the facts that I'm stating. --- #NotMyPresident #JusticeDemocrats #Neblio #WolfPAC #Bitcoin #WeAre12 #12thMan #Seahawks #Belieber #DENT #UBI #PokemonGo #twitterfriends #MMA #PopularHashtags ... Copied to Clipboard!
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