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AvantgardeAClue 04/05/20 10:31:56 PM #1:	Golden didn't make you pay for Velvet Room outfits Shit never goes on sale either smh I hope that DLC pack that was free was at least the $120 of DLC the vanilla game had --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:936858085] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Golden didn't make you pay for Velvet Room outfits Shit never goes on sale either smh I hope that DLC pack that was free was at least the $120 of DLC the vanilla game had </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 04/05/20 10:33:28 PM #2:	Because Atlus is one of the greedier devs out there but people lowkey forget about that. Day one DLC out the wazoo for a remix of a 3 year old game is an example of that --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:936858182] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Because Atlus is one of the greedier devs out there but people lowkey forget about that. Day one DLC out the wazoo for a remix of a 3 year old game is an example of that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 04/05/20 10:34:20 PM #3:	I feel like Atlus didn't really get as greedy as they are now until SEGA Sammy bought them. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:936858238] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>I feel like Atlus didn't really get as greedy as they are now until SEGA Sammy bought them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 04/05/20 10:35:03 PM #4:	AvantgardeAClue posted... Golden didn't make you pay for Velvet Room outfits Shit never goes on sale either smh I hope that DLC pack that was free was at least the $120 of DLC the vanilla game had Except 5's DLC has been on sale hundreds of times --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:936858287] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>AvantgardeAClue posted... </cite> <quote>Golden didn't make you pay for Velvet Room outfits Shit never goes on sale either smh I hope that DLC pack that was free was at least the $120 of DLC the vanilla game had</quote>Except 5's DLC has been on sale hundreds of times </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 04/05/20 10:35:38 PM #5:	Blue_Inigo posted... Because Atlus is one of the greedier devs out there but people lowkey forget about that. Day one DLC out the wazoo for a remix of a 3 year old game is an example of that You have to pay for multiplayer characters in Catherine Full Body too, which is dumb but not essential This is reaching Koei Tecmo levels of grifting though --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:936858312] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>Because Atlus is one of the greedier devs out there but people lowkey forget about that. Day one DLC out the wazoo for a remix of a 3 year old game is an example of that</quote> You have to pay for multiplayer characters in Catherine Full Body too, which is dumb but not essential This is reaching Koei Tecmo levels of grifting though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 04/05/20 10:36:40 PM #6:	I think it's super shitty that they advertised these awesome optional battles with the first two Persona protagonists only to make it DLC --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:936858366] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>I think it's super shitty that they advertised these awesome optional battles with the first two Persona protagonists only to make it DLC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SH_expert44 04/05/20 10:40:14 PM #7:	I thought Royal was supposed to be a definitive edition with all the DLC included? What the fuck. --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://imgur.com/nhHkg9L https://imgur.com/A3kur0P <cite>SH_expert44 posted [p:936858589] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>I thought Royal was supposed to be a definitive edition with all the DLC included? What the fuck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 04/05/20 10:41:47 PM #8:	SH_expert44 posted... I thought Royal was supposed to be a definitive edition with all the DLC included? What the fuck. It has the the base games DLC for free. --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:936858683] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>SH_expert44 posted... </cite> <quote>I thought Royal was supposed to be a definitive edition with all the DLC included? What the fuck.</quote>It has the the base games DLC for free. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 04/05/20 10:46:36 PM #9:	SH_expert44 posted... I thought Royal was supposed to be a definitive edition with all the DLC included? What the fuck. You got all the P5 vanilla dlc included. Not the P5R dlc. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:936858949] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>SH_expert44 posted... </cite> <quote>I thought Royal was supposed to be a definitive edition with all the DLC included? What the fuck.</quote>You got all the P5 vanilla dlc included. Not the P5R dlc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 04/05/20 10:46:47 PM #10:	SH_expert44 posted... I thought Royal was supposed to be a definitive edition with all the DLC included? What the fuck. You'll have to wait until they sell it again in a year or so for that. --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0pOIVkGkds <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:936858964] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>SH_expert44 posted... </cite> <quote>I thought Royal was supposed to be a definitive edition with all the DLC included? What the fuck.</quote>You'll have to wait until they sell it again in a year or so for that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 04/05/20 10:47:23 PM #11:	Blue_Inigo posted... I think it's super shitty that they advertised these awesome optional battles with the first two Persona protagonists only to make it DLC Seriously wtf I thought that was an obligatory definitive edition feature, at least it was in Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:936858994] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>I think it's super shitty that they advertised these awesome optional battles with the first two Persona protagonists only to make it DLC</quote> Seriously wtf I thought that was an obligatory definitive edition feature, at least it was in Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobra1010 04/05/20 10:53:18 PM #12:	Shit well I'm still butthurt from them keep making these better editions for every one of their games. Plus I'm still a bit burnt out from playing persona 5 even though it was years ago. I just don't have that same urge to play it again like some other games. Anyways, I guess I'll just wait for a persona 5 royal 'complete' edition. --- Now is the hour! Riders of Rohan! Oaths you have taken, now fulfill them all, to lord and land! <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:936859298] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Shit well I'm still butthurt from them keep making these better editions for every one of their games. Plus I'm still a bit burnt out from playing persona 5 even though it was years ago. I just don't have that same urge to play it again like some other games. Anyways, I guess I'll just wait for a persona 5 royal 'complete' edition. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 04/05/20 10:57:18 PM #13:	Cobra1010 posted... Shit well I'm still butthurt from them keep making these better editions for every one of their games. Plus I'm still a bit burnt out from playing persona 5 even though it was years ago. I just don't have that same urge to play it again like some other games. Anyways, I guess I'll just wait for a persona 5 royal 'complete' edition. Won't happen on PS4. Might get a complete version as a remastered PS5 version Anyway JRPG games in general have some of the worst cases of overpriced and worthless DLC. All of you should know this by now. Them devolving into having DLC for definitive versions was only a matter of time <cite>Axiom posted [p:936859511] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Cobra1010 posted... </cite> <quote>Shit well I'm still butthurt from them keep making these better editions for every one of their games. Plus I'm still a bit burnt out from playing persona 5 even though it was years ago. I just don't have that same urge to play it again like some other games. Anyways, I guess I'll just wait for a persona 5 royal 'complete' edition.</quote>Won't happen on PS4. Might get a complete version as a remastered PS5 version Anyway JRPG games in general have some of the worst cases of overpriced and worthless DLC. All of you should know this by now. Them devolving into having DLC for definitive versions was only a matter of time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freddie_Mercury 04/05/20 11:01:43 PM #14:	persona 5: steal your wallet edition --- https://i.imgtc.com/eMQvkRJ.png https://i.imgtc.ws/l86HyIt.png <cite>Freddie_Mercury posted [p:936859750] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>persona 5: steal your wallet edition </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/05/20 11:10:04 PM #15:	Solar_Crimson posted... I feel like Atlus didn't really get as greedy as they are now until SEGA Sammy bought them. I think that's more due to them taking so damn long to make games for modern platforms that can actually support DLC it's only becoming evident now. I don't think Sega Sammy have any oversight. If they did Persona and SMT would be multiplat. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:936860198] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>I feel like Atlus didn't really get as greedy as they are now until SEGA Sammy bought them.</quote> I think that's more due to them taking so damn long to make games for modern platforms that can actually support DLC it's only becoming evident now. I don't think Sega Sammy have any oversight. If they did Persona and SMT would be multiplat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 04/05/20 11:12:47 PM #16:	Proly not as bad as Ubisoft did Division 2. Base game came out. Then you could get season pass or def edition, whatever its called for like $20 more included some random shit and unlocked 3 classes. The 3 locked classes have 5 tiers of requirements Each to unlock them normally. And you can also pay to unlock them with Premium credits. Cost? $10.... Each. Then theres a bunch of weapon/equipment skins, apparel, and even gestures that are exclusive to Premium credits. I.e. only bought with real money. You could also buy credits to Boost a character. Skip all the main game, go straight to lv30, unlock all classes again, gs 515 loot. Which is a joke, because if you actually paid to not play the game thinking youre gonna PvP? Ha. Guess again. The vets would be on your ass in .2 seconds, not a fuckin thing your money can do about it. I bought the game for $3 on sale. Right before the new dlc launched, Warlords of New York. For another cool $30. $60 for Ultimate which includes some Lv 40 weapon and equipment, i dunno, random shit. So altogether i have no doubt there are players that have spent over $200 on this game, easily possible to go several hundred more to get everything. Surprised they dont just auction exotic equipment in game ffs. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:936860336] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Proly not as bad as Ubisoft did Division 2. Base game came out. Then you could get season pass or def edition, whatever its called for like $20 more included some random shit and unlocked 3 classes. The 3 locked classes have 5 tiers of requirements Each to unlock them normally. And you can also pay to unlock them with Premium credits. Cost? $10.... Each. Then theres a bunch of weapon/equipment skins, apparel, and even gestures that are exclusive to Premium credits. I.e. only bought with real money. You could also buy credits to Boost a character. Skip all the main game, go straight to lv30, unlock all classes again, gs 515 loot. Which is a joke, because if you actually paid to not play the game thinking youre gonna PvP? Ha. Guess again. The vets would be on your ass in .2 seconds, not a fuckin thing your money can do about it. I bought the game for $3 on sale. Right before the new dlc launched, Warlords of New York. For another cool $30. $60 for Ultimate which includes some Lv 40 weapon and equipment, i dunno, random shit. So altogether i have no doubt there are players that have spent over $200 on this game, easily possible to go several hundred more to get everything. Surprised they dont just auction exotic equipment in game ffs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/05/20 11:19:07 PM #17:	Keith_Valentine posted... Proly not as bad as Ubisoft did Division 2. Base game came out. Then you could get season pass or def edition, whatever its called for like $20 more included some random shit and unlocked 3 classes. The 3 locked classes have 5 tiers of requirements Each to unlock them normally. And you can also pay to unlock them with Premium credits. Cost? $10.... Each. Then theres a bunch of weapon/equipment skins, apparel, and even gestures that are exclusive to Premium credits. I.e. only bought with real money. You could also buy credits to Boost a character. Skip all the main game, go straight to lv30, unlock all classes again, gs 515 loot. Which is a joke, because if you actually paid to not play the game thinking youre gonna PvP? Ha. Guess again. The vets would be on your ass in .2 seconds, not a fuckin thing your money can do about it. I bought the game for $3 on sale. Right before the new dlc launched, Warlords of New York. For another cool $30. $60 for Ultimate which includes some Lv 40 weapon and equipment, i dunno, random shit. So altogether i have no doubt there are players that have spent over $200 on this game, easily possible to go several hundred more to get everything. Surprised they dont just auction exotic equipment in game ffs. I mean it does suck but that is a Games as a Service title. It's meant to be a game that hooks people into their community for years. Persona 5 is a single player JRPG that re-released a definitive edition on the same console that you can't buy as DLC and then added more paid DLC to the definitive edition. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:936860621] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted... </cite> <quote>Proly not as bad as Ubisoft did Division 2. Base game came out. Then you could get season pass or def edition, whatever its called for like $20 more included some random shit and unlocked 3 classes. The 3 locked classes have 5 tiers of requirements Each to unlock them normally. And you can also pay to unlock them with Premium credits. Cost? $10.... Each. Then theres a bunch of weapon/equipment skins, apparel, and even gestures that are exclusive to Premium credits. I.e. only bought with real money. You could also buy credits to Boost a character. Skip all the main game, go straight to lv30, unlock all classes again, gs 515 loot. Which is a joke, because if you actually paid to not play the game thinking youre gonna PvP? Ha. Guess again. The vets would be on your ass in .2 seconds, not a fuckin thing your money can do about it. I bought the game for $3 on sale. Right before the new dlc launched, Warlords of New York. For another cool $30. $60 for Ultimate which includes some Lv 40 weapon and equipment, i dunno, random shit. So altogether i have no doubt there are players that have spent over $200 on this game, easily possible to go several hundred more to get everything. Surprised they dont just auction exotic equipment in game ffs.</quote> I mean it does suck but that is a Games as a Service title. It's meant to be a game that hooks people into their community for years. Persona 5 is a single player JRPG that re-released a definitive edition on the same console that you can't buy as DLC and then added more paid DLC to the definitive edition. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 04/05/20 11:26:57 PM #19:	Blue_Inigo posted... Because Atlus is one of the greedier devs out there but people lowkey forget about that. Day one DLC out the wazoo for a remix of a 3 year old game is an example of that They may be greedy but at least they back that greed up with good games --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:936860993] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>Because Atlus is one of the greedier devs out there but people lowkey forget about that. Day one DLC out the wazoo for a remix of a 3 year old game is an example of that</quote>They may be greedy but at least they back that greed up with good games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Resaix 04/05/20 11:27:07 PM #20:	Is the DLC all cosmetic? If so, doesn't really bother me <cite>Resaix posted [p:936861001] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Is the DLC all cosmetic? If so, doesn't really bother me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/05/20 11:27:53 PM #21:	AvantgardeAClue posted... Seriously wtf I thought that was an obligatory definitive edition feature, at least it was in Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden Persona 3 portable wasnt a definitive edition --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:936861042] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>AvantgardeAClue posted... </cite> <quote>Seriously wtf I thought that was an obligatory definitive edition feature, at least it was in Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden</quote>Persona 3 portable wasnt a definitive edition </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 04/05/20 11:28:15 PM #22:	Stuff like this is why I'm always skeptical to buy anything day one <cite>PowerOats posted [p:936861059] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Stuff like this is why I'm always skeptical to buy anything day one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 04/05/20 11:28:16 PM #23:	Rika_Furude posted... Persona 3 portable wasnt a definitive edition It is --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:936861060] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote>Persona 3 portable wasnt a definitive edition</quote>It is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 04/05/20 11:29:30 PM #24:	P3P is awful --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:936861118] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>P3P is awful </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/05/20 11:30:19 PM #25:	Blue_Inigo posted... It is Its missing cutscenes and some other stuff i thought --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:936861152] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>It is</quote>Its missing cutscenes and some other stuff i thought </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 04/05/20 11:31:32 PM #26:	Blue_Inigo posted... It is Lol no it wasn't. It was literally missing content <cite>Axiom posted [p:936861213] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>It is</quote>Lol no it wasn't. It was literally missing content </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 04/05/20 11:31:47 PM #27:	But the female protagonist is so much better. No burger king for her. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:936861225] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>But the female protagonist is so much better. No burger king for her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToadallyAwesome 04/05/20 11:32:23 PM #28:	Persona 5 Royal is worth the new price. The quality of life updates and other issues they fixed are great. Plus you get a whole new 1/3 of game. The game itself was already good. Plus all the DLC can be skipped. Thats the thing with DLC. You dont have to buy it --- https://imgur.com/QKdxwuI <cite>ToadallyAwesome posted [p:936861254] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Persona 5 Royal is worth the new price. The quality of life updates and other issues they fixed are great. Plus you get a whole new 1/3 of game. The game itself was already good. Plus all the DLC can be skipped. Thats the thing with DLC. You dont have to buy it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Keith_Valentine 04/05/20 11:33:24 PM #30:	Darmik posted... I mean it does suck but that is a Games as a Service title. It's meant to be a game that hooks people into their community for years. Persona 5 is a single player JRPG that re-released a definitive edition on the same console that you can't buy as DLC and then added more paid DLC to the definitive edition. Yea. And as i said, you dont have to buy ANY of that extra shit in Div. I picked it up cheap and bought the standard dlc because I love it. But its just blatant in that game. Theres a tab to buy Premium credits, theyre expensive as fuck. legacy paid loot caches, the game auto installed the dlc as a 15 gb patch and then reminded you every 5 minutes that it was ready to go. Straight money grab. But i have less experience with games like that than most, ive been casual playing p much just Souls for 5 years now. I guess its becoming more common. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:936861303] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>I mean it does suck but that is a Games as a Service title. It's meant to be a game that hooks people into their community for years. Persona 5 is a single player JRPG that re-released a definitive edition on the same console that you can't buy as DLC and then added more paid DLC to the definitive edition.</quote> Yea. And as i said, you dont have to buy ANY of that extra shit in Div. I picked it up cheap and bought the standard dlc because I love it. But its just blatant in that game. Theres a tab to buy Premium credits, theyre expensive as fuck. legacy paid loot caches, the game auto installed the dlc as a 15 gb patch and then reminded you every 5 minutes that it was ready to go. Straight money grab. But i have less experience with games like that than most, ive been casual playing p much just Souls for 5 years now. I guess its becoming more common. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neverwin 04/05/20 11:33:32 PM #31:	Rika_Furude posted... They may be greedy but at least they back that greed up with good games Like Capcom, Bandai Namco, Nintendo, etc. Face it Japanese devs can make good games and still have bad DLC practices, even the devs who don't make good games have them just as bad too, it's a Japanese thing I guess. --- If you're so great then why do you corrupt those who are just as great? https://imgur.com/S0RN1 <cite>neverwin posted [p:936861310] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote>They may be greedy but at least they back that greed up with good games</quote> Like Capcom, Bandai Namco, Nintendo, etc. Face it Japanese devs can make good games and still have bad DLC practices, even the devs who don't make good games have them just as bad too, it's a Japanese thing I guess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/05/20 11:33:38 PM #32:	ToadallyAwesome posted... new 1/3 of game. Wait, i thought there was just 1 new month/dungeon What else did they add --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:936861314] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>ToadallyAwesome posted... </cite> <quote>new 1/3 of game.</quote>Wait, i thought there was just 1 new month/dungeon What else did they add </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 04/05/20 11:51:05 PM #33:	Blue_Inigo posted... It is I wouldn't consider it. It lacks actual cutscenes--instead going for a VN aesthetic--and it's also missing "The Answer" from P3FES. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:936862185] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>It is</quote>I wouldn't consider it. It lacks actual cutscenes--instead going for a VN aesthetic--and it's also missing "The Answer" from P3FES. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 04/06/20 12:25:17 AM #34:	Not to defend it, but the DLC stuff, like the costumes and musics packs, really weird unimportant stuff, is much like all the anime goods and other shit they sell everywhere in Japan. It's actually how a lot of these companies make a significant chunk of their money. I think as long as it's just cosmetics or frivolous stuff that don't affect the central gameplay it's fine. It gives the company a way to make more money off the super fans without gimping the experience for people who just want to play the game. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:936863689] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Not to defend it, but the DLC stuff, like the costumes and musics packs, really weird unimportant stuff, is much like all the anime goods and other shit they sell everywhere in Japan. It's actually how a lot of these companies make a significant chunk of their money. I think as long as it's just cosmetics or frivolous stuff that don't affect the central gameplay it's fine. It gives the company a way to make more money off the super fans without gimping the experience for people who just want to play the game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 04/06/20 12:28:16 AM #35:	My problem with the cosmetic DLC as microtransactions is it all used to be fun unlockable shit in the game. They re-released Persona 4 as Persona 4 Golden, added new content, added costumes to the game, and charged you no more than a discounted amount from the base PS2 game. That's the Atlus I remember, not this Atlus that is recycling old DLC from old games, and is charging you effectively 2 full games worth of money for a single game with all of the content available. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:936863822] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>My problem with the cosmetic DLC as microtransactions is it all used to be fun unlockable shit in the game. They re-released Persona 4 as Persona 4 Golden, added new content, added costumes to the game, and charged you no more than a discounted amount from the base PS2 game. That's the Atlus I remember, not this Atlus that is recycling old DLC from old games, and is charging you effectively 2 full games worth of money for a single game with all of the content available. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 04/06/20 12:40:22 AM #36:	Resaix posted... Is the DLC all cosmetic? If so, doesn't really bother me Yu and Minato super boss battles as well as exclusive Personas that may or may not count towards the compendium Alucard188 posted... My problem with the cosmetic DLC as microtransactions is it all used to be fun unlockable shit in the game. They re-released Persona 4 as Persona 4 Golden, added new content, added costumes to the game, and charged you no more than a discounted amount from the base PS2 game. That's the Atlus I remember, not this Atlus that is recycling old DLC from old games, and is charging you effectively 2 full games worth of money for a single game with all of the content available. You got the Velvet Room outfits in Golden by acing your exams, there was actual incentive to do good in the game. Here though? $7.99. No other way. If these were shortcut packs I wouldnt mind but theyre the only way to access this content I feel like the current Atlus/Sega strategy is sell game at full price and people will buy it, then sell the game at dirt cheap and people will still buy it then consider getting the DLC Im glad I got this game for free but even so I still feel cheated the DLC isnt all there --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:936864297] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Resaix posted... </cite> <quote>Is the DLC all cosmetic? If so, doesn't really bother me</quote> Yu and Minato super boss battles as well as exclusive Personas that may or may not count towards the compendium Alucard188 posted... </cite> <quote>My problem with the cosmetic DLC as microtransactions is it all used to be fun unlockable shit in the game. They re-released Persona 4 as Persona 4 Golden, added new content, added costumes to the game, and charged you no more than a discounted amount from the base PS2 game. That's the Atlus I remember, not this Atlus that is recycling old DLC from old games, and is charging you effectively 2 full games worth of money for a single game with all of the content available.</quote> You got the Velvet Room outfits in Golden by acing your exams, there was actual incentive to do good in the game. Here though? $7.99. No other way. If these were shortcut packs I wouldnt mind but theyre the only way to access this content I feel like the current Atlus/Sega strategy is sell game at full price and people will buy it, then sell the game at dirt cheap and people will still buy it then consider getting the DLC Im glad I got this game for free but even so I still feel cheated the DLC isnt all there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 04/06/20 12:45:42 AM #37:	AvantgardeAClue posted... You have to pay for multiplayer characters in Catherine Full Body too, which is dumb but not essential This is reaching Koei Tecmo levels of grifting though ngl I was pretty pissed off when I went checked the PS Store page to find an extra $30-$35 worth of DLC content despite me owning the Heart's Desire Edition. I mean wtf Atlus, you tell me to buy the "definitive" version of this awesome game so I can reexperience all this extra content and new story and you have the balls to release even more shit afterwards? Very sly and sinister company. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:936864520] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>AvantgardeAClue posted... </cite> <quote>You have to pay for multiplayer characters in Catherine Full Body too, which is dumb but not essential This is reaching Koei Tecmo levels of grifting though</quote> ngl I was pretty pissed off when I went checked the PS Store page to find an extra $30-$35 worth of DLC content despite me owning the Heart's Desire Edition. I mean wtf Atlus, you tell me to buy the "definitive" version of this awesome game so I can reexperience all this extra content and new story and you have the balls to release even more shit afterwards? Very sly and sinister company. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 04/06/20 12:48:52 AM #38:	Freddie_Mercury posted... persona 5: steal your wallet edition lol --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:936864626] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Freddie_Mercury posted... </cite> <quote>persona 5: steal your wallet edition</quote>lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/06/20 12:53:40 AM #39:	AvantgardeAClue posted... I feel like the current Atlus/Sega strategy is sell game at full price and people will buy it, then sell the game at dirt cheap and people will still buy it then consider getting the DLC Do other Sega games have this ssue? I never hear this complaint about Yakuza. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:936864823] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>AvantgardeAClue posted... </cite> <quote>I feel like the current Atlus/Sega strategy is sell game at full price and people will buy it, then sell the game at dirt cheap and people will still buy it then consider getting the DLC</quote> Do other Sega games have this ssue? I never hear this complaint about Yakuza. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 04/06/20 12:55:08 AM #40:	I think even the most diehard Persona fans like myself can admit that paying full price for a single game's content three times minimum (P5, P5 Royal, P5 Royal "season pass") is getting ridiculous. People like to rag on EA for this type of stuff but I've never seen stuff like this before from them. Tales of Vesperia released a $50 definitive edition for modern consoles with free DLC costumes and all the new stuff actually on the disc. Atlus let a little critical acclaim get to their heads and now we have $60 worth of DLC in the $60 definitive edition. And don't even get me STARTED on the dancing games --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:936864879] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>I think even the most diehard Persona fans like myself can admit that paying full price for a single game's content three times minimum (P5, P5 Royal, P5 Royal "season pass") is getting ridiculous. People like to rag on EA for this type of stuff but I've never seen stuff like this before from them. Tales of Vesperia released a $50 definitive edition for modern consoles with free DLC costumes and all the new stuff actually on the disc. Atlus let a little critical acclaim get to their heads and now we have $60 worth of DLC in the $60 definitive edition. And don't even get me STARTED on the dancing games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 04/06/20 12:56:53 AM #41:	Darmik posted... Do other Sega games have this ssue? I never hear this complaint about Yakuza. Yakuza 7 has its New Game Plus mode (among other things) behind paid DLC --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:936864932] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Do other Sega games have this ssue? I never hear this complaint about Yakuza.</quote> Yakuza 7 has its New Game Plus mode (among other things) behind paid DLC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 04/06/20 8:11:02 AM #42:	AvantgardeAClue posted... Tales of Vesperia released a $50 definitive edition for modern consoles with free DLC costumes and all the new stuff actually on the disc. The definitive edition was just a port of the PS3 version. I expected them to add more DLC to the game for the PS4/XBO/Switch/PC versions, so I was pleasantly surprised that they just ported the game with no extra fees attached. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:936874860] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>AvantgardeAClue posted... </cite> <quote>Tales of Vesperia released a $50 definitive edition for modern consoles with free DLC costumes and all the new stuff actually on the disc.</quote> The definitive edition was just a port of the PS3 version. I expected them to add more DLC to the game for the PS4/XBO/Switch/PC versions, so I was pleasantly surprised that they just ported the game with no extra fees attached. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 04/06/20 8:18:19 AM #43:	Blue_Inigo posted... Because Atlus is one of the greedier devs out there but people lowkey forget about that. Day one DLC out the wazoo for a remix of a 3 year old game is an example of that At least Etrian Odyssey lately is just like Yeah here are some character skins and grind DLC. Its 5$ total. Oh and half of it is free at launch V also had a soundtrack DLC...which gave you FM remixed versions of the entire soundtrack. --- My Mario Maker 2 Maker ID is J2K-RFD-K4G Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:936875035] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>Because Atlus is one of the greedier devs out there but people lowkey forget about that. Day one DLC out the wazoo for a remix of a 3 year old game is an example of that</quote> At least Etrian Odyssey lately is just like Yeah here are some character skins and grind DLC. Its 5$ total. Oh and half of it is free at launch V also had a soundtrack DLC...which gave you FM remixed versions of the entire soundtrack. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 04/06/20 8:19:59 AM #44:	SH_expert44 posted... I thought Royal was supposed to be a definitive edition with all the DLC included? What the fuck. All the DLC from the base game is free. The dlc they're selling is costumes for Kasumi, the Persona dlc, and p3 and p4 protag battles It's still pricey for just that stuff tho >_> --- https://i.imgtc.ws/cCF89fl.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/LeYvR5c.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/eNZ2kfM.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/kFyHKqh.jpg https://i.imgtc.ws/eSmBjnF.png <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:936875085] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>SH_expert44 posted... </cite> <quote>I thought Royal was supposed to be a definitive edition with all the DLC included? What the fuck.</quote>All the DLC from the base game is free. The dlc they're selling is costumes for Kasumi, the Persona dlc, and p3 and p4 protag battles It's still pricey for just that stuff tho >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 04/06/20 12:41:10 PM #45:	Solar_Crimson posted... I wouldn't consider it. It lacks actual cutscenes--instead going for a VN aesthetic--and it's also missing "The Answer" from P3FES. The Answer sucks ass and P3P has new music that's really good. The VN aesthetic is more than fine since the models arent good looking and dont really do much. --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:936886401] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>I wouldn't consider it. It lacks actual cutscenes--instead going for a VN aesthetic--and it's also missing "The Answer" from P3FES.</quote>The Answer sucks ass and P3P has new music that's really good. The VN aesthetic is more than fine since the models arent good looking and dont really do much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 04/06/20 1:33:07 PM #46:	AvantgardeAClue posted... Yakuza 7 has its New Game Plus mode (among other things) behind paid DLC I heard about that too. Wtf is happening to Atlus ... --- Currently Playing: Flame Crest: Triple Homes <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:936889386] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>AvantgardeAClue posted... </cite> <quote>Yakuza 7 has its New Game Plus mode (among other things) behind paid DLC </quote> I heard about that too. Wtf is happening to Atlus ... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 04/06/20 1:40:50 PM #47:	Blue_Inigo posted... The Answer sucks ass Doesn't matter. It's not there, and is a considerably large gameplay/story chunk that was cut out. It doesnt matter if it was good or bad; it not being there makes p3p, by definition, not definitive --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:936889837] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>The Answer sucks ass</quote>Doesn't matter. It's not there, and is a considerably large gameplay/story chunk that was cut out. It doesnt matter if it was good or bad; it not being there makes p3p, by definition, not definitive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 04/06/20 1:45:52 PM #48:	DarkBuster22904 posted... Doesn't matter. It's not there, and is a considerably large gameplay/story chunk that was cut out. It doesnt matter if it was good or bad; it not being there makes p3p, by definition, not definitive Cutting out something that was ultimately meaningless fluff is what makes something definitive. The idea that it doesnt have some god awful epilogue that attempts to soften the message of the main game so it's not definitive is ludicrous. P3P is everything Persona 3 needed to be --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:936890146] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite> <quote>Doesn't matter. It's not there, and is a considerably large gameplay/story chunk that was cut out. It doesnt matter if it was good or bad; it not being there makes p3p, by definition, not definitive</quote>Cutting out something that was ultimately meaningless fluff is what makes something definitive. The idea that it doesnt have some god awful epilogue that attempts to soften the message of the main game so it's not definitive is ludicrous. P3P is everything Persona 3 needed to be </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 04/07/20 12:33:58 AM #49:	ChrisTaka posted... I heard about that too. Wtf is happening to Atlus ... SEGA is behind Yakuza so if anything Im guessing its them And P3P is the perfect way to replay Persona 3 right now, although I definitely recommend first-timers play FES. --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:936925592] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted... </cite> <quote>I heard about that too. Wtf is happening to Atlus ...</quote> SEGA is behind Yakuza so if anything Im guessing its them And P3P is the perfect way to replay Persona 3 right now, although I definitely recommend first-timers play FES. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MwarriorHiei 04/07/20 12:37:43 AM #50:	Keith_Valentine posted... Proly not as bad as Ubisoft did Division 2. Base game came out. Then you could get season pass or def edition, whatever its called for like $20 more included some random shit and unlocked 3 classes. The 3 locked classes have 5 tiers of requirements Each to unlock them normally. And you can also pay to unlock them with Premium credits. Cost? $10.... Each. Then theres a bunch of weapon/equipment skins, apparel, and even gestures that are exclusive to Premium credits. I.e. only bought with real money. You could also buy credits to Boost a character. Skip all the main game, go straight to lv30, unlock all classes again, gs 515 loot. Which is a joke, because if you actually paid to not play the game thinking youre gonna PvP? Ha. Guess again. The vets would be on your ass in .2 seconds, not a fuckin thing your money can do about it. I bought the game for $3 on sale. Right before the new dlc launched, Warlords of New York. For another cool $30. $60 for Ultimate which includes some Lv 40 weapon and equipment, i dunno, random shit. So altogether i have no doubt there are players that have spent over $200 on this game, easily possible to go several hundred more to get everything. Surprised they dont just auction exotic equipment in game ffs. what makes the expansion thing even worse is that, on PS4, it is locked to the account that buys it. every other account on that PS4 has to buy the expansion separately if they also want to play it, fucking over families with multiple users on one PS4. xbox version lets every account on it play the expansion with only one purchase. --- http://i.imgtc.com/gkielsd.jpg <cite>MwarriorHiei posted [p:936925713] in Why the he... [t:78547704]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted...</cite> <quote>Proly not as bad as Ubisoft did Division 2. Base game came out. Then you could get season pass or def edition, whatever its called for like $20 more included some random shit and unlocked 3 classes. The 3 locked classes have 5 tiers of requirements Each to unlock them normally. And you can also pay to unlock them with Premium credits. Cost? $10.... Each. Then theres a bunch of weapon/equipment skins, apparel, and even gestures that are exclusive to Premium credits. I.e. only bought with real money. You could also buy credits to Boost a character. Skip all the main game, go straight to lv30, unlock all classes again, gs 515 loot. Which is a joke, because if you actually paid to not play the game thinking youre gonna PvP? Ha. Guess again. The vets would be on your ass in .2 seconds, not a fuckin thing your money can do about it. I bought the game for $3 on sale. Right before the new dlc launched, Warlords of New York. For another cool $30. $60 for Ultimate which includes some Lv 40 weapon and equipment, i dunno, random shit. So altogether i have no doubt there are players that have spent over $200 on this game, easily possible to go several hundred more to get everything. Surprised they dont just auction exotic equipment in game ffs. </quote> what makes the expansion thing even worse is that, on PS4, it is locked to the account that buys it. every other account on that PS4 has to buy the expansion separately if they also want to play it, fucking over families with multiple users on one PS4. xbox version lets every account on it play the expansion with only one purchase.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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