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Guns_of_Verdun
04/02/20 8:20:09 PM
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https://youtu.be/36T8rBA1K6Y?t=4597

Jack looked so uncomfortable while Yahtzee didn't seem to care.

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LightningAce11
04/02/20 8:20:26 PM
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Tldw?

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Guns_of_Verdun
04/02/20 8:22:45 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Tldw?


Yahtzee says it's odd to hate finished works because of the offensive/negative personal beliefs of the creator. Brings up Lovecraft
Jack doesn't agree

Yahtzee wonders why it's wrong to sterotype hispanics or black people but no one cares when the British are sterotyped.
Jack says it's because the British have historically always been in a position of power.
Yahtzee thinks broad strokes like that ignore individualism.
Jack changes the subject

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s0nicfan
04/02/20 8:27:27 PM
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Every "live" appearance with yahtzee has been really bad. The dude just isn't good in a group setting.

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ssjevot
04/02/20 8:27:39 PM
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Why are white people always so awkward about this stuff? Can they just get an actual minority to talk about these issues, because every white guy comes across like he doesn't feel confident in what he is saying, but he's going to pretend to be an expert on minorities anyway.

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Guns_of_Verdun
04/02/20 8:30:03 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Every "live" appearance with yahtzee has been really bad. The dude just isn't good in a group setting.

The dude is an introvert shut-in with severe anxiety problems that he takes severe medication for.

He doesn't like multiplayer games because the stress is bad for his health.

He doesn't even want to put the facecam on the videos, only does so because he has to for the format.

People want him to be like a gaming figure but he's just a socially awkward guy. I feel kinda bad for him.

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tremain07
04/02/20 8:30:40 PM
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Why are they even having this dumbass conversation? Like whose looking for such a thing? It's just like that bit in Clerks II

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Guns_of_Verdun
04/02/20 8:33:02 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Why are they even having this dumbass conversation? Like whose looking for such a thing? It's just like that bit in Clerks II
Well they talked for 2 hours straight and it just came up.

I think it stemmed from a dicussion about whether or not Doom Eternal was pandering to fans by making all the enemies look like classic doom

Which spun onto whether Overwatch was pandering with it's character designs being tailor made for certain groups

Which spun onto whether its diversity was natural or a cynical cash grab

Which spun onto the concept of sterotypes

And boom, that's how conversations happen

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tremain07
04/02/20 8:49:01 PM
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Stupid as fuck, I can't stand idiots on Youtube for dumbass shit like this alone. I really hope in the future this shitty ass eceleb culture just dies ever never to be spoken about again

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s0nicfan
04/02/20 8:49:51 PM
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I guess this is what we get because not enough people watched Rich and Jack's gaming channel so they had to kill it.

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tremain07
04/02/20 8:51:33 PM
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No, this is what we get when a media platform is given to the public what a mistake

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Mecha Sonic
04/02/20 8:52:59 PM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Yahtzee wonders why it's wrong to sterotype hispanics or black people but no one cares when the British are sterotyped.

dumb

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Guns_of_Verdun
04/02/20 8:54:37 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Stupid as fuck, I can't stand idiots on Youtube for dumbass shit like this alone. I really hope in the future this shitty ass eceleb culture just dies ever never to be spoken about again

tremain07 posted...
No, this is what we get when a media platform is given to the public what a mistake
Sweet Jesus you need to clam down

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SaradaUchihaXXX
04/02/20 8:54:44 PM
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Ugh the 'in power' excuse
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tremain07
04/02/20 8:58:33 PM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Sweet Jesus you need to clam down
I am calm

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_Rinku_
04/02/20 9:00:23 PM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Yahtzee says it's odd to hate finished works because of the offensive/negative personal beliefs of the creator. Brings up Lovecraft
Jack doesn't agree

Yahtzee wonders why it's wrong to sterotype hispanics or black people but no one cares when the British are sterotyped.
Jack says it's because the British have historically always been in a position of power.
Yahtzee thinks broad strokes like that ignore individualism.
Jack changes the subject
Yikes. Yahtzee looks really ignorant and privileged here.
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butthole666
04/02/20 9:03:39 PM
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When a dude from RLM is the less problematic one u know u got issues

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Guns_of_Verdun
04/02/20 9:08:47 PM
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tremain07 posted...
I am calm
You don't sound it

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Wetterdew
04/02/20 9:14:34 PM
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Yahtzee is a moron and his videos are also terrible (and always have been)

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Delirious_Beard
04/02/20 9:17:21 PM
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p sure jack isn't even with RLM anymore

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s0nicfan
04/02/20 9:18:59 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
p sure jack isn't even with RLM anymore

I could swear I heard him in the background once or twice. At the very least, I think he was on screen during the last black tape jenga episode with Mac. I think he just works the camera mostly.

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Jagr_68
04/02/20 9:21:07 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
I guess this is what we get because not enough people watched Rich and Jack's gaming channel so they had to kill it.

Hard to fucking believe there was no overlap between actual hardcore gamers like Dick the Birthday Boy and film fans.

I blame the Jay and Mike stans for this >__>


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Guns_of_Verdun
04/02/20 9:26:16 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
p sure jack isn't even with RLM anymore
No he is.

He even says in this video they are working on a big project right now despire Corona

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UnholyMudcrab
04/02/20 9:50:28 PM
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ColdOne666
04/02/20 9:50:30 PM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Yahtzee wonders why it's wrong to sterotype hispanics or black people but no one cares when the British are sterotyped.

There is nothing wrong with this statement.

Racism is racism. You are either for it or against it. Can't have it both ways.

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butthole666
04/02/20 10:21:17 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
There is nothing wrong with this statement.

Racism is racism. You are either for it or against it. Can't have it both ways.
lol shut the fuck up snowflake

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Ryuko_Chan
04/02/20 10:26:46 PM
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butthole666 posted...
lol shut the fuck up snowflake
Victim mentality just proves youre weak

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viewmaster_pi
04/02/20 10:29:17 PM
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the other guy straight up said he agreed you can enjoy the work and still acknowledge the creator wasn't okay, but he understands how some people's views of the work are ruined for it, too. they seemed largely on the same page, to me

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Esrac
04/02/20 10:34:09 PM
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SaradaUchihaXXX posted...
Ugh the 'in power' excuse

It's never been a good reason. But it isn't a genuine reason. It is to handwave the bad behavior of the minorities who make those stereotypes, etc.
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Doe
04/02/20 10:41:19 PM
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People are always making ridiculous conspiracy theories that Jack and Mike are in some bizarre power struggle and say this is the end, they broke up, and then they'll do another video together lol

It's weird because he's such an ancillary RLM personality, 4th or 5th on the totem pole

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Ishallmakeit
04/02/20 10:57:26 PM
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ssjevot posted...
Why are white people always so awkward about this stuff? Can they just get an actual minority to talk about these issues, because every white guy comes across like he doesn't feel confident in what he is saying, but he's going to pretend to be an expert on minorities anyway.

us white people can do it just fine.

It's the closet racists like Yahtzee who are awkward about it.
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Ishallmakeit
04/02/20 11:01:09 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
There is nothing wrong with this statement.

Racism is racism. You are either for it or against it. Can't have it both ways.

Yeah, and British isn't a race. Idris Elba is British, for example.

Do you think Yahtzee would be whining if he were reviewing a Speedy Gonzales videogame or a videogame depicting black people negatively?
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Irony
04/02/20 11:02:20 PM
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Ishallmakeit posted...
Yeah, and British isn't a race. Idris Elba is British, for example.

Do you think Yahtzee would be whining if he were reviewing a Speedy Gonzales videogame or a videogame depicting black people negatively?
He already has reviewed games that did that

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creativerealms
04/02/20 11:03:23 PM
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Why is anyone bothered by SJWs? Sorry but just ignore them.

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Esrac
04/02/20 11:04:33 PM
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Ishallmakeit posted...
Yeah, and British isn't a race. Idris Elba is British, for example.

Do you think Yahtzee would be whining if he were reviewing a Speedy Gonzales videogame or a videogame depicting black people negatively?

He isn't even whining about it here.
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Ishallmakeit
04/02/20 11:05:20 PM
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Irony posted...
He already has reviewed games that did that

And I bet he didn't complain about the stereotyping?
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Irony
04/02/20 11:08:44 PM
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Ishallmakeit posted...
And I bet he didn't complain about the stereotyping?
Well his tone sounded like he was

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ssjevot
04/02/20 11:28:10 PM
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Ishallmakeit posted...
us white people can do it just fine.

It's the closet racists like Yahtzee who are awkward about it.

Nah, you really can't. This has been shown way too many times. Minorities can speak for themselves, you can signal boost for them, stop trying to be the hero in Last Samurai/Dances with Wolves/etc.

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Ishallmakeit
04/02/20 11:30:16 PM
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ssjevot posted...
Nah, you really can't. This has been shown way too many times. Minorities can speak for themselves, you can signal boost for them, stop trying to be the hero in Last Samurai/Dances with Wolves/etc.

I'm not trying to be shit buddy, you don't even know me XD

BTW you just generalized an entire race (white people), good going.
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CommunismFTW
04/02/20 11:44:46 PM
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I'm not watching that, but I agree controversial figures like Lovecraft can be separate from their art.

iirc Yahtzee has serious trouble debating/communicating/arguing and has a few anxiety disorders. Feel bad for the guy even if I don't like his reviews on ZP

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BMXJouster
04/02/20 11:49:20 PM
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While Jack does do videos with them sometimes he is not actually part of RedLetterMedia. The only members actually part of that company are Mike, Jay and Rich as far as I know.

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ssjevot
04/03/20 12:08:35 AM
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Ishallmakeit posted...
I'm not trying to be shit buddy, you don't even know me XD

BTW you just generalized an entire race (white people), good going.

Yeah, and white people speaking for minorities instead of letting them speak for themselves are doing just that. Not all white people try to speak for other people. So I'm only generalizing those that do. They need to stop and let people speak for themselves.

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Guns_of_Verdun
04/03/20 12:17:09 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
the other guy straight up said he agreed you can enjoy the work and still acknowledge the creator wasn't okay, but he understands how some people's views of the work are ruined for it, too. they seemed largely on the same page, to me
Well yeah they are friends

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