Board 8 > How much do you think a mask helps prevent the spread of covid 19?

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on a related note iirc the mayors of la and nyc are now urging citizens to wear masks

It doesnt do much. Sure if you're someone who can't keep from shoving their own fingers in their mouth it might help remind you, and sure if you dont know how to cough into your arm it can help protect others from your flying germs.

Problem is people really think it helps protect them from getting the rona when the virus can get through your fucking eyeball. These same people will go home and think whew lad I wore a mask I'm good to go then touch the box of cereal that I sneezed on 2 hours earlier and now theyve got the virus anyways.

It's a preventative measure that people put way too much faith in.

Studies are showing it's a significant reason why South Korea and Taiwan have done so well against this virus, actually. A mask is a great tool to put along side hand washing and sanitizing and social distancing.
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Also uhh did you know those masks are o ly good for a short amount of time then need to be replaced (within 2-3 hours max)? If used for longer the moisture trapped inside will actually cause you to get a lung infection potentially so you know what that means... 1 million Americans will end up hospitalized for overuse of protective masks
Mark my words

KinjiMuto_3 posted...

Mark my words

I'll be sure to tune in to you instead of health professionals. Thanks for being there.
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v_charon posted...

Studies are showing it's a significant reason why South Korea and Taiwan have done so well against this virus, actually. A mask is a great tool to put along side hand washing and sanitizing and social distancing.

really? south korea and taiwan's cases are very low?

CwebbMichSac4 posted...

really? south korea and taiwan's cases are very low?

South Korea reported just over 100 cases yesterday and were one of the early countries to be impacted by the virus other than China. You can't find Taiwan's numbers because the WHO doesn't think Taiwan exists of course.
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To put it into perspective, South Korea has had almost 4 times fewer cases per one million people than the US has already, and we haven't even peaked out and six times fewer deaths per million.
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v_charon posted...

I'll be sure to tune in to you instead of health professionals. Thanks for being there.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/health/improper-use-of-medical-masks-can-cause-infections-/1766676

Or just continue spreading misinformation as per your usual routine

KinjiMuto_3 posted...

Or just continue spreading misinformation as per your usual routine

Said as the guy links to a story about N-95 masks, which is not what health officials are urging you to wear. It's in fact the exact opposite.
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v_charon posted...

Said as the guy links to a story about N-95 masks, which is not what health officials are urging you to wear. It's in fact the exact opposite.

You're dealing with the American public
I feel like you forget this part
The public who are wearing pads, water bottles, grocery bags, salad containers on their faces currently

If you read the article it applies to more than the specified mask you're talking about

Its like you've never heard about Google - you want to play devils advocate pretty bad and I'm not understanding what you're gaining from telling people the masks will save them

I don't know how to use Google? Even Trump's white house is going to recommend masks in public, so perhaps it's you who needs to look at Google for a while. When Trump is ahead of you on something regarding this outbreak you know you're weeks behind schedule.
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v_charon posted...

I don't know how to use Google? Even Trump's white house is going to recommend masks in public, so perhaps it's you who needs to look at Google for a while. When Trump is ahead of you on something regarding this outbreak you know you're weeks behind schedule.

it's so weird how dogmatic this board can be sometimes.

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Sure is.
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CwebbMichSac4 posted...

really? south korea and taiwan's cases are very low?

Taiwan is doing better than any other part of the world.

So masks aren't preventative of everything for the most part - like there's some that do well (e.g., N95) but there's ways to minimize your contact and your ability to contact others and basic surgical masks help both, though more from you than to you.

It becomes very useful on asymptomatic cases though since in those cases you don't know if you've got it or not, so it'll help remove those instances.

But even items as simple as a cotton blend t-shirt are useful. Obviously not 100% but 70% is far, far better than nothing.

Edit:
And then there's vacuum cleaner bags or high quality air filters too. Those are quite effective.

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Yeah the masks are very good at slowing down spread, they just don't do much to prevent individual people from being infected if exposed.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Yeah the masks are very good at slowing down spread, they just don't do much to prevent individual people from being infected if exposed.

So we arent doing anything other than slowing it down. Great ? If its gunna get ya its gunna get ya anyways

KinjiMuto_3 posted...

Also uhh did you know those masks are o ly good for a short amount of time then need to be replaced (within 2-3 hours max)?

This is true, but 2-3 hours is plenty for a grocery run or similar.

Basically it's all probability-based. A mask doesn't render you immune but it does reduce your risk on the occasions you need to leave your home.
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KinjiMuto_3 posted...

If its gunna get ya its gunna get ya anyways

You sure you don't need the word "god" in there somewhere?
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KinjiMuto_3 posted...

So we arent doing anything other than slowing it down. Great ? If its gunna get ya its gunna get ya anyways

The entire point is so that not everyone gets it at once so the hospitals have capacity spread out over time

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metaIslug posted...

y'all laughing at these plastic container face people, but it sounds pretty woke to me.
we just came to the conclusion that 1) virus can go in through eyes and 2) masks eventually get gross which means infection, even if washed.

...Transparent plstic container don't have either of those problems. I mean it still gets gross but it's not in short supply

I may find it funny but sure it's also better than nothing if you're that worried about it

Drakeryn posted...

This is true, but 2-3 hours is plenty for a grocery run or similar.

Basically it's all probability-based. A mask doesn't render you immune but it does reduce your risk on the occasions you need to leave your home.

Dont tell charon he thinks this information is incorrect

v_charon posted...

You sure you don't need the word "god" in there somewhere?

God invented the rona I'm not out to give that guy anymore spotlight smh

I never once said it made you immune, I said it was a useful tool to use alongside other safe practices.
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You never said anything, you just smugly insisted someone else was wrong and backtracked when it became obvious you were wrong.

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Not sure what you think I'm backtracking on. But do go on adding nothing of value to this or any conversation.
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bump

The Surgeon General and the CDC recommend face coverings when out in public, but lol charon right
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Didn't it come out that officials were downplaying how useful masks were, because they wanted the supply saved for doctors and nurses?

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banananor posted...

Didn't it come out that officials were downplaying how useful masks were, because they wanted the supply saved for doctors and nurses?

For some reason people want to look at it as the officials saying masks were bad, ignoring all the context.

The issue then was that healthy people were wearing them to prevent contracting the disease. They are MUCH less useful for this purpose (unless you have like a full gas mask lying around or something), and so the limited number of them needed to go to people like the doctors who would be being exposed directly and then would need to prevent spread to other patients and healthcare workers.

Now we are in a situation where many many more average people and service workers may have contracted the disease and are asymptomatic carriers. NOW normal people wearing masks is going to be more effective than previously for preventing spread. They would have been effective for that earlier, but again that's not why people were wanting to buy masks. And you still shouldn't be buying the good masks, you should be making your own.

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