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mustachedmystic
03/25/20 8:11:59 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Either good and evil is an objective truth created by God, and He has to follow his own standards, or morality is above God and He's not all powerful.

Or we aren't capable of truly understanding it on the same level as God.

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ultimate reaver
03/25/20 8:12:12 PM
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his two roomies ate the leftover fajita from his fridge so he kicked them both out and then spent the next several hundred thousand years watching everyone but a small handful of them die

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malenz
03/25/20 8:26:17 PM
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Sunburst posted...
You are not judged until the end of your life. Would you prefer to just be wiped out of existence? Some Churches believe that God takes mercy on the wicked and wipes them out of existence instead of torturing them in Hell forever.
I believe this.

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josifrees
03/25/20 8:28:22 PM
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i disagree with the premise. You dont know that stuff you think is bad is actually bad nor are you ever going to nail down an objective definition of good and bad to begin with.


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Lairen
03/25/20 8:28:41 PM
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He needs money too...

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ThePieReborn
03/25/20 8:29:25 PM
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Lairen posted...
He needs money too...
Bootstraps, though.

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KiwiTerraRizing
03/25/20 8:29:46 PM
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According to Christians all the good stuff he gets credit for and the bad stuff we cant understand why he does it.

Kinda like how Trumpanzees treat their fat orange messiah.

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mustachedmystic
03/25/20 8:31:05 PM
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I don't believe that hell is literally fire and brimstone, that description is just the best way to get the point across to a pre technological bronze age civilization.

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WaterLink
03/25/20 8:35:25 PM
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I believe in a higher power but I dont believe it is conscious and is judging us or dictates anything outside of the power that allowed us to exist. But I guess bad things need to exist to put good into context?

I mean movies would suck without conflict. When I'm in my thoughts thinking about what an aware god would create us for, sometimes I think he just made us for entertainment and yeah itd be boring to just see people doing nothing but good and nothing bad ever happening.
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josifrees
03/25/20 8:37:03 PM
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Also, all knowing all powerful god does not need to intervene in its creations because it can design the creation to carry out its will.

also also Adam and Eve were created dumb as rocks, ignorant, basically no different from an animal. Original sin does make a nice allegory for the evolution of man though

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mustachedmystic
03/25/20 8:37:55 PM
#61:


WaterLink posted...
But I guess bad things need to exist to put good into context?

I believe it's like ying-yang, you can't have one without the other.

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RustyFerret
03/25/20 8:39:31 PM
#62:


Another five year old discovers the Problem of Evil.
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MT_TRAEH
03/25/20 8:39:33 PM
#63:


mustachedmystic posted...
I believe it's like ying-yang, you can't have one without the other.
cant have an airplane fly with just a right wing, we need the left too

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mustachedmystic
03/25/20 8:41:42 PM
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I'm not a religous person(I'm a lapsed Catholic), but the way I see it, the universe runs itself, without any input from God.


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Marauder64
03/25/20 8:41:58 PM
#65:


SpriteLimit posted...
Does that mean he is not all powerful? Are there things that god cannot control? Or does he let (or even cause) bad things happen?

God allows things to happen.

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Wewillrocku
03/25/20 8:44:45 PM
#66:


you got that right rustyferret.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

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Strider102
03/25/20 8:46:16 PM
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God has to have some entertainment as he sits there.

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Questionmarktarius
03/25/20 8:47:57 PM
#68:


God retired about 2000 years ago, and lets his kid run the family business now.
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Marauder64
03/25/20 8:53:38 PM
#69:


Wewillrocku posted...
you got that right rustyferret.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?


God , being our sovereign creator, declared what is good and what is evil. The bible is full of stories of God destroying nations because of the evil they did in HIS sight.

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TheTrueAmerican
03/25/20 8:54:28 PM
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Growth never happens if everything is always wonderful.

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Wewillrocku
03/25/20 8:55:59 PM
#71:


Marauder64 posted...
God , being our sovereign creator, declared what is good and what is evil. The bible is full of stories of God destroying nations because of the evil they did in HIS sight.
thank goodness the bible is fake shit.

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BruceWayneJr
03/25/20 8:58:33 PM
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God was created in man's image, so of course he's a dickbag.

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MT_TRAEH
03/25/20 9:01:18 PM
#73:


mustachedmystic posted...
I'm not a religous person(I'm a lapsed Catholic), but the way I see it, the universe runs itself, without any input from God.
interesting watch https://youtu.be/1qhEq0dNRpA
like you said, the universe runs itself, the other belief is God made it and is in charge of things

but belief in God declined with the rise of technology, we no longer prayed to see what the weather could be, we no longer relied on belief that someone could be healed from a terrible disease, we could also manipulate the growth of our crops/live stocks, feeding them nutrients essential for people's consumption whenever we need it

and if God was really not in charge and nature is constantly trying to kill us, then we took it upon ourselves to control it, constructing roads, getting forests out of the way for cities, building dams to control water supply, using radars to watch the weather and yet, we are reminded that nature could still surpass even the best we have, and even the destruction of nature will lead us to our own destruction, taking over un-sanitized areas for human population then we wonder what kind of viruses we contract

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SpaceBear_
03/25/20 9:06:58 PM
#74:


Omnipotent
Benevolent

Pick one.

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RustyFerret
03/25/20 9:08:33 PM
#75:


Wewillrocku posted...
you got that right rustyferret.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
An objection to this would be the presence of evil having a purpose or leading to a positive change.

The presence of suffering in the world has actually driven mankind to improve themselves in a lot of ways.

This is moot though if you're a subjectivist because then concepts like good and evil are just opinions anyway.

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Marauder64
03/25/20 9:14:22 PM
#76:


SpaceBear_ posted...
Omnipotent
Benevolent

Pick one.

Somethings are meant for our good. Others....

The book of job chap. 5 :18 states:

"For He inflicts pain, and gives relief; He wounds, and His hands also heal.

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RenescoStCewl
03/25/20 9:28:45 PM
#77:


DevsBro posted...
The book of Job teaches us that our perspective is far too small to judge God's actions as good, evil, etc.

This weird idea that people looking for logical holes champion, that God is somehow required to do every act that we judge is good, is nowhere in the Bible.
Ah the book of job, where god hangs out with satan and gambles over the soul of a man. God tells satan to destroy jobs business, slaughter his workers and family, and torture job all to prove a point to the most evil being in existence.

Why is god hanging out with satan? Why does he need to prove anything to satan? Why is he totally cool with the deaths of jobs family?

The answers to these questions and any other questions about why god does evil stuff in the bible is "everything god does is good, you just dont understand morality! If God wants baby's skulls crushed against rocks then that means its good!"
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cuttin_in_farm
03/25/20 9:28:57 PM
#78:


Sunburst posted...
Would you prefer to just be wiped out of existence?

Yes. Religious people come into this with the wrong assumption that everyone thinks life is even a gift.

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yunalenne10
03/25/20 9:29:58 PM
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We are not in Heaven, are we not?

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Vicious_Dios
03/25/20 9:31:18 PM
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God's been good to me, so I can't partake in this complainy 'discussion'.

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ThePieReborn
03/25/20 9:32:48 PM
#81:


Marauder64 posted...
"For He inflicts pain, and gives relief; He wounds, and His hands also heal.
The phrase "battered spouse" comes to mind.

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Uglybass69
03/25/20 9:34:49 PM
#83:


Can't experience the good without knowing the bad. Yin and Yang, everything is in balance. If your life was perfect and nothing bad ever happened, you wouldn't appreciate the good things or learn perseverance.

I am not a Christian, but that's basically the idea behind why bad things happen.
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Twin3Turbo
03/25/20 9:44:53 PM
#84:


Tote_All_y posted...
Because "bad things" are probably meaningless in the scale of a being that's omnipotent.
And yet he's supposedly got a whole book and religion based around telling us humans exactly how we are supposed to behave.

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modena
03/25/20 10:10:43 PM
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"Once the "Universe" collapses God would be one with himself knowing every possible outcome of life."

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TimeLady0
03/25/20 10:11:34 PM
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The question is, bad from whose perspective?

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Raikuro
03/25/20 10:16:05 PM
#88:


god keeps trying to give Earth some antibiotics but the pesky bacteria infecting it keep building up resistances
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Lorenzo_2003
03/25/20 10:19:37 PM
#89:


Tote_All_y posted...
Ah, teen atheists, thinking debunking the bible(s) means debunking theism.

The point is that even if God exists, it is not worthy of our worship. It very clearly does not have our best interests in mind, despite the majority of theists claiming that it does.

Edit: interests, not intentions

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Wewillrocku
03/25/20 10:24:24 PM
#90:


Tote_All_y posted...
Ah, teen atheists, thinking debunking the bible(s) means debunking theism.
is this a joke post?

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Lorenzo_2003
03/25/20 10:36:58 PM
#93:


Tote_All_y posted...
That's not the point of this topic, no.

Thats fair. I was paying too much attention to the other members posts, and I am Ok with divorcing the definition of god(s) from what appears in religious texts such as the Bible.

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Wewillrocku
03/25/20 11:04:57 PM
#94:


Tote_All_y posted...
Why would it be?
you realize religious people are that way because of their parents, right?

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Wewillrocku
03/25/20 11:12:28 PM
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if by us you mean a single theist, it really is too simple to spell it out. go back and read your post about teenagers if you still don't get it.

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Wewillrocku
03/25/20 11:21:38 PM
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are you sure you remember 2002?

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MarshallStack
03/25/20 11:48:11 PM
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https://youtu.be/Ypkh_4N-p8o

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AuroraUnit836
03/26/20 1:08:31 AM
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god is a fucking asshole let me tell you that

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