Current Events > Oof I called my boss out in our staff wide zoom meeting and he called me after

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Balrog0 03/23/20 11:54:53 AM #1:	To chastise me about my tone It was really uncomfortable, that's never happened to me before --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:936096002] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>To chastise me about my tone It was really uncomfortable, that's never happened to me before </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 03/23/20 11:57:59 AM #2:	"It wasn't what you said, it was how you said it :(" --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:936096148] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>"It wasn't what you said, it was how you said it :("</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/23/20 11:58:30 AM #3:	philsov posted... "It wasn't what you said, it was how you said it :(" Legit a good summary of the convo --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:936096165] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>philsov posted... </cite> <quote>"It wasn't what you said, it was how you said it :("</quote> Legit a good summary of the convo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 03/23/20 11:59:11 AM #4:	tell him having your feelings hurt the least of the companies problems --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:936096198] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>tell him having your feelings hurt the least of the companies problems </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronChef_Kirby 03/23/20 11:59:56 AM #5:	Im curious to know what you called him out for --- https://imgur.com/faC30Oe 3DS FC: 1375 7308 4517 <cite>IronChef_Kirby posted [p:936096232] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>Im curious to know what you called him out for </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/23/20 12:05:06 PM #6:	IronChef_Kirby posted... Im curious to know what you called him out for We got a grant to work on a policy issue that is my domain here at work as a policy analyst, and started doing interviews last week with potential contractors to outsource certain functions. But I didn't even know we got the grant much less that we'd moved into to the interview stage. So I told him I'd like to be kept in the loop in the future. He said it was because last week was crazy but I was like, I get it but you've texted me and emailed me with requests several times just this morning, but I get it. Then we moved on. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:936096456] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>IronChef_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>Im curious to know what you called him out for</quote> We got a grant to work on a policy issue that is my domain here at work as a policy analyst, and started doing interviews last week with potential contractors to outsource certain functions. But I didn't even know we got the grant much less that we'd moved into to the interview stage. So I told him I'd like to be kept in the loop in the future. He said it was because last week was crazy but I was like, I get it but you've texted me and emailed me with requests several times just this morning, but I get it. Then we moved on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 03/23/20 12:06:40 PM #7:	Balrog0 posted... We got a grant to work on a policy issue that is my domain here at work as a policy analyst, and started doing interviews last week with potential contractors to outsource certain functions. But I didn't even know we got the grant much less that we'd moved into to the interview stage. So I told him I'd like to be kept in the loop in the future. He said it was because last week was crazy but I was like, I get it but you've texted me and emailed me with requests several times just this morning, but I get it. Then we moved on. Sounds like something that would have been better handled offline rather than a company-wide meeting. Sorta siding with your boss here. --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:936096533] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>We got a grant to work on a policy issue that is my domain here at work as a policy analyst, and started doing interviews last week with potential contractors to outsource certain functions. But I didn't even know we got the grant much less that we'd moved into to the interview stage. So I told him I'd like to be kept in the loop in the future. He said it was because last week was crazy but I was like, I get it but you've texted me and emailed me with requests several times just this morning, but I get it. Then we moved on.</quote>Sounds like something that would have been better handled offline rather than a company-wide meeting. Sorta siding with your boss here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/23/20 12:07:24 PM #8:	When he called me afterwards he said I couldnt speak to him like that in front of other staff and that I wasn't the only one dealing with a lot of shit and he deserved for me to cut him some slack "considering all of the slack I've cut you" (this pissed me off) --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:936096570] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>When he called me afterwards he said I couldnt speak to him like that in front of other staff and that I wasn't the only one dealing with a lot of shit and he deserved for me to cut him some slack "considering all of the slack I've cut you" (this pissed me off) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 03/23/20 12:10:01 PM #10:	sylverlolol posted... Sounds like something that would have been better handled offline rather than a company-wide meeting. Sorta siding with your boss here. I don't disagree lol --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:936096686] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>sylverlolol posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds like something that would have been better handled offline rather than a company-wide meeting. Sorta siding with your boss here.</quote> I don't disagree lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 03/23/20 12:10:13 PM #11:	It does sound like he massively jumped the gun although maybe youre about to become several people and its not your exclusive contract. But that probably wouldnt be something Id reveal in a company wide meeting. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:936096697] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>It does sound like he massively jumped the gun although maybe youre about to become several people and its not your exclusive contract. But that probably wouldnt be something Id reveal in a company wide meeting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sylverlolol 03/23/20 12:10:29 PM #13:	Balrog0 posted... When he called me afterwards he said I couldnt speak to him like that in front of other staff and that I wasn't the only one dealing with a lot of shit and he deserved for me to cut him some slack "considering all of the slack I've cut you" (this pissed me off) Last part is petty af on his part...but he isn't exactly wrong that you shouldn't be speaking to him like that in front of everyone. I'd just apologize, chalk it up to stress, and move on. --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:936096704] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>When he called me afterwards he said I couldnt speak to him like that in front of other staff and that I wasn't the only one dealing with a lot of shit and he deserved for me to cut him some slack "considering all of the slack I've cut you" (this pissed me off)</quote>Last part is petty af on his part...but he isn't exactly wrong that you shouldn't be speaking to him like that in front of everyone. I'd just apologize, chalk it up to stress, and move on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PatrickMahomes 03/23/20 12:10:33 PM #14:	A boss who can give it and not take it is a shitty boss sylverlolol posted... Sounds like something that would have been better handled offline rather than a company-wide meeting. Sorta siding with your boss here. but also this --- NFLB 2020 Summersim Roster (5-1): https://imgur.com/4Pvr5rT St. Louis Battlehawks (3-2) <cite>PatrickMahomes posted [p:936096707] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>A boss who can give it and not take it is a shitty boss sylverlolol posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds like something that would have been better handled offline rather than a company-wide meeting. Sorta siding with your boss here.</quote>but also this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/23/20 12:14:14 PM #15:	sylverlolol posted... Last part is petty af on his part...but he isn't exactly wrong that you shouldn't be speaking to him like that in front of everyone. I'd just apologize, chalk it up to stress, and move on. Eh, someone has to talk to him about his awful management at some point, and our board isn't really active. Part of his strategy is to make every management issue seem personal to the individual employee. I do agree with you in the abstract, but this kind of thing is why we have such high turnover (someone quit just today). It's not an isolated incident. That said, yeah I was reacting more with my feelings than my head too so I have little standing here. Just sharing with ce --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:936096886] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>sylverlolol posted... </cite> <quote>Last part is petty af on his part...but he isn't exactly wrong that you shouldn't be speaking to him like that in front of everyone. I'd just apologize, chalk it up to stress, and move on.</quote> Eh, someone has to talk to him about his awful management at some point, and our board isn't really active. Part of his strategy is to make every management issue seem personal to the individual employee. I do agree with you in the abstract, but this kind of thing is why we have such high turnover (someone quit just today). It's not an isolated incident. That said, yeah I was reacting more with my feelings than my head too so I have little standing here. Just sharing with ce </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToadallyAwesome 03/23/20 12:15:43 PM #16:	Learning experience for you both. Its generally not good to say shit like that in a public meeting. If anything dont do it cause people react really weirdly to being called out, even more so if they deserve it. But counter point is he shouldnt have given you the slack comment. Sounds like he thinks quite highly of himself and what he does. --- https://imgur.com/QKdxwuI <cite>ToadallyAwesome posted [p:936096942] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>Learning experience for you both. Its generally not good to say shit like that in a public meeting. If anything dont do it cause people react really weirdly to being called out, even more so if they deserve it. But counter point is he shouldnt have given you the slack comment. Sounds like he thinks quite highly of himself and what he does. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/23/20 12:17:28 PM #17:	I think he reacted the way he did because someone quit today and the turnover is something our board is starting to regard with some oversight because it's become a real budget issue for our organization. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:936097032] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>I think he reacted the way he did because someone quit today and the turnover is something our board is starting to regard with some oversight because it's become a real budget issue for our organization. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/23/20 12:22:30 PM #18:	sylverlolol posted... I'd just apologize, chalk it up to stress, and move on. This is what I did --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:936097243] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>sylverlolol posted... </cite> <quote>I'd just apologize, chalk it up to stress, and move on.</quote> This is what I did </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 03/23/20 12:24:00 PM #19:	Balrog0 posted... Eh, someone has to talk to him about his awful management at some point, and our board isn't really active. Part of his strategy is to make every management issue seem personal to the individual employee. I do agree with you in the abstract, but this kind of thing is why we have such high turnover (someone quit just today). It's not an isolated incident. That said, yeah I was reacting more with my feelings than my head too so I have little standing here. Just sharing with ce Oh, for sure...I'm just saying a public meeting isn't the place to do something like that. Even if you have a point to make and are 100% in the right, doing it like this will rarely make you look good in the end. --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:936097299] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>Eh, someone has to talk to him about his awful management at some point, and our board isn't really active. Part of his strategy is to make every management issue seem personal to the individual employee. I do agree with you in the abstract, but this kind of thing is why we have such high turnover (someone quit just today). It's not an isolated incident. That said, yeah I was reacting more with my feelings than my head too so I have little standing here. Just sharing with ce</quote>Oh, for sure...I'm just saying a public meeting isn't the place to do something like that. Even if you have a point to make and are 100% in the right, doing it like this will rarely make you look good in the end. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 03/23/20 12:30:41 PM #20:	Balrog0 posted... So I told him I'd like to be kept in the loop in the future. He said it was because last week was crazy but I was like, I get it but you've texted me and emailed me with requests several times just this morning, but I get it. Then we moved on. Italicizing the part you could've not done, but this is easy for me in my armchair. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:936097586] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote> So I told him I'd like to be kept in the loop in the future. He said it was because last week was crazy but I was like, I get it but you've texted me and emailed me with requests several times just this morning, but I get it. Then we moved on.</quote> Italicizing the part you could've not done, but this is easy for me in my armchair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/23/20 12:35:39 PM #21:	philsov posted... Italicizing the part you could've not done, but this is easy for me in my armchair. But when you're right, you're right --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:936097810] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>philsov posted... </cite> <quote>Italicizing the part you could've not done, but this is easy for me in my armchair.</quote>But when you're right, you're right </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 03/23/20 12:36:45 PM #22:	Eh, we all make little mistakes when we're upset. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:936097870] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>Eh, we all make little mistakes when we're upset. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awesome 03/23/20 12:40:10 PM #23:	What happens if he fires you --- >_> <cite>Awesome posted [p:936098008] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>What happens if he fires you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 03/23/20 12:40:31 PM #24:	Balrog0 posted... When he called me afterwards he said I couldnt speak to him like that in front of other staff and that I wasn't the only one dealing with a lot of shit and he deserved for me to cut him some slack "considering all of the slack I've cut you" (this pissed me off) I feel like that's a **ty thing to say regardless of whether it's true or not. Makes it feel like he's holding it for some future occasion. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:936098028] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>When he called me afterwards he said I couldnt speak to him like that in front of other staff and that I wasn't the only one dealing with a lot of shit and he deserved for me to cut him some slack "considering all of the slack I've cut you" (this pissed me off)</quote> I feel like that's a **ty thing to say regardless of whether it's true or not. Makes it feel like he's holding it for some future occasion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 03/23/20 12:42:41 PM #25:	Anteaterking posted... I feel like that's a **ty thing to say regardless of whether it's true or not. Makes it feel like he's holding it for some future occasion. It's definitely a shitty thing because either it's not true and the boss is lashing out or it is true and the boss is admitting that he's a bad boss and saying that TC should let him get away with it because he lets TC be a bad employee. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:936098122] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>I feel like that's a **ty thing to say regardless of whether it's true or not. Makes it feel like he's holding it for some future occasion.</quote>It's definitely a shitty thing because either it's not true and the boss is lashing out or it is true and the boss is admitting that he's a bad boss and saying that TC should let him get away with it because he lets TC be a bad employee. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/23/20 12:43:10 PM #26:	Awesome posted... What happens if he fires you Hopefully Congress will make UI work for me? Lol I'm not gonna get fired over this though lol it's more an interpersonal discomfort --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:936098136] in Oof I call... [t:78497771]...</cite> <quote>Awesome posted... </cite> <quote>What happens if he fires you</quote> Hopefully Congress will make UI work for me? Lol I'm not gonna get fired over this though lol it's more an interpersonal discomfort </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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