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AlecSkorpio
03/14/20 2:10:05 PM
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A dream? Really Miyamoto!?

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Irony
03/14/20 2:12:14 PM
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Half Life 2 Episode 2

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Awakened_Link
03/14/20 5:30:27 PM
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I thought it was established very clearly in the manual.

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__aCEr__
03/14/20 5:31:39 PM
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Bro it's the first sentence in the manual.

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Foppe
03/14/20 5:32:02 PM
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Awakened_Link posted...
I thought it was established very clearly in the manual.

And at the start of the game.

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Duncanwii
03/14/20 5:32:06 PM
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Awakened_Link posted...
I thought it was established very clearly in the manual.
No one reads the manuel.

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Questionmarktarius
03/14/20 5:32:31 PM
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The NES port of Ultima 3 didn't even have an ending.
Escape the ambiguously-defined villain's castle -> credits.
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Gakk86
03/14/20 5:33:23 PM
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You never played ME3?

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Foppe
03/14/20 5:33:56 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The NES port of Ultima 3 didn't even have an ending.
Escape the ambiguously-defined villain's castle -> credits.
The programmers for the Amiga 500 port of Dennis the Menace ran out of time and didn't put in the final boss or the ending, so they just put an impossible jump in the final stage.

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berlyman101
03/14/20 5:33:59 PM
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When I was a little kid, I'd love reading the manuals. Those few short paragraphs in each one inspired hours of imagination.

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Duncanwii
03/14/20 5:37:59 PM
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Kingdom Hearts 3

What this old man tried to kill you and all of your friends, successfully killed your girlfriend, and attempted to plunge the entire multiverse into darkness?

Better give him a happy ending and a fond farewell after you defeat him, because that makes sense.

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Mud Turkey 13
03/14/20 5:39:51 PM
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Altered Beast turns out to be a play. That was a huge let down. I beat it in the arcade, so I don't know if the manual mentioned anything about that.


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Foppe
03/14/20 5:48:34 PM
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Elf the Movie on the GBA.

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Skye Reynolds
03/14/20 6:05:36 PM
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It makes sense in that, as far as Nintendo of Japan is concerned, the game is non-canon.

What doesn't make sense is that it doesn't have any content that is out of place for Mario as a character. Even if wasn't "Super Mario Bros. 2," they could've released it as Super Mario Adventure and everything would've been fine.
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Skye Reynolds
03/14/20 6:08:23 PM
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berlyman101 posted...
When I was a little kid, I'd love reading the manuals. Those few short paragraphs in each one inspired hours of imagination.

Back then, it was the only way to get a glimpse of what a character's personality might be like. You were lucky if a character in a video game had even a single line of dialogue.

Mud Turkey 13 posted...
Altered Beast turns out to be a play. That was a huge let down. I beat it in the arcade, so I don't know if the manual mentioned anything about that.

The lead programmer's explanation was that making a video game was like making a movie. The Genesis / Mega Drive port does not include the twist and instead plays the story completely straight.
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Questionmarktarius
03/14/20 6:08:36 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
It makes sense in that, as far as Nintendo of Japan is concerned, the game is non-canon.
Everything but the original main characters have been absorbed into Mario anyway.
The villain ended up in Zelda somehow.
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Cotton_Eye_Joe
03/14/20 6:09:21 PM
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LOL at playing Super Mario Bros 2 for the plot

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Kajagogo
03/14/20 6:10:10 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
It makes sense in that, as far as Nintendo of Japan is concerned, the game is non-canon.


Yet it introduced a lot of canon characters. Birdo, Pokey, Bob-omb, Shy Guy, Ninji, Cobrat.

Mouser needs to make a comeback so bad!


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El Mexicano Texano
03/14/20 6:10:36 PM
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Skye Reynolds
03/14/20 6:12:50 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Everything but the original main characters have been absorbed into Mario anyway.
The villain ended up in Zelda somehow.

Even if the characters hadn't returned, it takes place in a different world from the Mushroom Kingdom. Just going solely off of the games preceding the Americanized Super Mario Bros. 2, it makes sense that a magical doorway to another fantasy kingdom in need of help would be a thing.
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DevsBro
03/14/20 6:15:05 PM
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I never got what was so bad about it. It's not like it was a story with complex themes and weighty impications. It was Mario throwing blocks at a frog.

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yusiko
03/14/20 6:20:51 PM
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there is no reason to ever use mario or luigi in that game
peach makes nearly every single level easier thanks to her flying
the only times not to use her are for levels that require you to dig in the sand a lot because she digs the slowest
in those levels you use toad because he digs the fastest

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nevershine
03/14/20 6:23:58 PM
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the Mario games have a story?

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Damn_Underscore
03/14/20 6:24:55 PM
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pretty sure they got that from Dallas
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Foppe
03/14/20 6:29:08 PM
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yusiko posted...
there is no reason to ever use mario or luigi in that game
peach makes nearly every single level easier thanks to her flying
the only times not to use her are for levels that require you to dig in the sand a lot because she digs the slowest
in those levels you use toad because he digs the fastest
Or you complete every level with every character.

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cjsdowg
03/14/20 6:33:46 PM
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Since some of the character have made it to the other Mario games, my personal head cannon is that it was shared dream and they all were sent to dream land .

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K181
03/14/20 6:36:56 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
No one reads the manuel.

Literally every gamer read manuals back in the day.

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Kajagogo
03/14/20 7:07:50 PM
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K181 posted...
Literally every gamer read manuals back in the day.

In Star Tropics, you had too to beat the game.

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Skye Reynolds
03/14/20 7:14:04 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Since some of the character have made it to the other Mario games, my personal head cannon is that it was shared dream and they all were sent to dream land .

Nice.
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loafy013
03/14/20 7:22:48 PM
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Foppe posted...
Or you complete every level with every character.
I remember sitting in english class one day, figuring out which character to use in each level so they all got used the same amount. They all got to the do the victory dance in the ending credits.

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yusiko
03/14/20 8:35:15 PM
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ive beaten the game with everyone before i just always fall back on the princess and wonder how the hell she keeps getting kidnapped if every game she appears in as a playable character she is better than mario and even bowser

i think she just lets bowser kidnap her cause she likes the attention

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DevsBro
03/14/20 8:37:14 PM
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yusiko posted...
i think she just lets bowser kidnap her cause she likes the attention
I don't think it's the attention she likes.

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FL81
03/14/20 8:38:13 PM
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SMB3 was all just a play

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yusiko
03/14/20 8:46:06 PM
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DevsBro posted...
I don't think it's the attention she likes.


well bowser jr does think she is his mama
maybe he is right

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Zikten
03/14/20 8:49:50 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
No one reads the manuel.
We did in the 80s. Nes manuals were well made and had interesting stuff in them
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Questionmarktarius
03/14/20 8:51:05 PM
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yusiko posted...
well bowser jr does think she is his mama
maybe he is right
Maybe Peach is just a deadbeat mom, and the "kidnappings" are actually court-mandated visitation and child support collection.
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Skye Reynolds
03/14/20 8:51:07 PM
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The Kid Icarus manual had b00bies.
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yusiko
03/14/20 8:54:21 PM
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the super mario rpg manual for the snes left peach out of it
so it was a surprise when i got her as a party member

the legend of the dragoon manual left out meru, kongol and miranda

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Skye Reynolds
03/14/20 9:06:04 PM
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Speaking of bullshit endings, yesterday was Friday the 13th.

YOU HAVE FINALLY MANAGED
TO DEFEAT JASON ...
BUT IS HE REALLY DEAD ?
WE'RE NOT TELLING !!
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BigTee66
03/14/20 9:09:05 PM
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Foppe posted...

And at the start of the game.
Slammed

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Stagmar
03/14/20 9:18:32 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
The Kid Icarus manual had b00bies.
I dont remember that, but I looked it up and you are right.

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Skye Reynolds
03/14/20 9:20:03 PM
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On the subject of Peach, she may indirectly be the reason why Super Mario Bros. 2 is non-canon. In a dream, she's a warrior with the power to levitate. In real life, she's...



Yeah.

You could argue that, if Peach being a helpless damsel in distress was truly that important to Nintendo at the time, they could've replaced Lina from Doki Doki Panic with an original character instead of Peach.

And that goes back to having creative control over the Mario property. Any way you look at it, saying it didn't happen is a power play on the part of Nintendo of Japan.
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ghettoraider81
03/14/20 9:24:19 PM
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BigTee66 posted...
Slammed


Not really, if you read further is says that after he woke up he found that long stairway and everything happened just like in his dream.

So, you really didnt know he was still dreaming until the end.

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Skye Reynolds
03/14/20 9:27:21 PM
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I do think the ending is insulting to the player, but they do set it up properly. Calling the world Subcon is a stroke of brilliance. Adults would instantly catch that it's short for subconscious. But kids? That goes right over their heads.
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nevershine
03/14/20 9:28:56 PM
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Why can mario breath underwater in some games, but needs to come up for air in others?

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Questionmarktarius
03/14/20 9:47:29 PM
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nevershine posted...
Why can mario breath underwater in some games, but needs to come up for air in others?
3D just uses more oxygen.
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Skye Reynolds
03/14/20 9:49:00 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
3D just uses more oxygen.

...works for me.
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ElatedVenusaur
03/14/20 10:44:36 PM
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Zikten posted...
We did in the 80s. Nes manuals were well made and had interesting stuff in them
The old Romance of the Three Kingdoms manuals had a summary of the entire period and what was going on at the beginning of each scenario. To a kid who was already staying up late to watch stuff about the Egyptians, that was like catnip.
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