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scar the 1
03/12/20 3:10:24 PM
#304:


Balrog0 posted...
have any of you guys been seeing people talking about the exit poll discrepancies show there is vote tampering going on?

why are people like this?
Who is doing the exit polls?

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Balrog0
03/12/20 3:11:53 PM
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it's all based on these numbers which the person gets from CNN:

http://tdmsresearch.com/2020/02/17/new-hampshire-2020-democratic-party-primary-exit-poll-versus-reported-vote-count/

pretty much anyone with half a brain should be able to spot the issue with how this is being presented, though

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Balrog0
03/12/20 3:23:04 PM
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I mean, it's not even the presentation, it's just what they're doing with the numbers lol

they're claiming enormous errors in the results by getting the difference between the exit polls and the actual results and then dividing that total by the exit poll total

it's literally a meaningless operation, the error is just the error, you don't change it based on what the person got. That would be like saying someone polling at 50% in a poll has a different margin of error around their estimate than someone polling at 0%. That isn't how polling works

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EnragedSlith
03/12/20 3:31:45 PM
#310:


ElatedVenusaur posted...
Morality is off-putting to those who long ago sold their souls, yes.

This kind of thinking rustles my jimmies something fierce. If you want to overthrow the establishment by working along the guidelines specifically set out to maintain the status quo, you effectively need a revolution within the party and across the country. Bernie didnt garner remotely close to the amount of popular support hed need to supplant the party leadership and lobbying interests, so he and his supporters can get fucked.

The alternative route is compromise. Generally preferable when you dont enjoy a massive majority of support. While Bernie doesnt understand this in the slightest, his opponents do, and theyve shifted the dialogue to encompass a fledgling voter base that largely fails to see theyre actually being listened to. Not that it matters, because they dont even fucking vote.

Its nothing but a power grab orchestrated by people who wont even bother to get up long enough to vote for the guy promising the moon.

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Smashingpmkns
03/12/20 6:24:55 PM
#311:


https://twitter.com/jakemerci/status/1238198942254448644

Damn if only there was a candidate that was advocating for a single payer system
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DaveTheUseless
03/12/20 6:57:33 PM
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Spooking posted...
Why is Washington still at only 77% reporting? What the hell is going on?

now it's up to 80% wowee zowee

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Smashingpmkns
03/12/20 7:02:39 PM
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Broseph_Stalin
03/12/20 7:03:25 PM
#314:


Smashingpmkns posted...
https://twitter.com/jakemerci/status/1238198942254448644

Damn if only there was a candidate that was advocating for a single payer system

"Europe" doesn't use single-payer but who gives a shit about facts I guess
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DaveTheUseless
03/12/20 7:21:49 PM
#315:


DaveTheUseless posted...
now it's up to 80% wowee zowee

81% now!!! oh baby! here comes the gravy train!

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DaveTheUseless
03/12/20 7:47:05 PM
#316:


83%

Tension so thick you could cut it with a knife

It's all riding on this!!

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DaveTheUseless
03/12/20 8:15:37 PM
#317:


85% of the voting in, Biden at 2% over Sanders in Washington

it's insult to injury y'all

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wackyteen
03/12/20 8:16:51 PM
#318:


I can't imagine Bernie motivating/scaring all those Biden voters to get out and vote let alone Biden doing it

Are people really that scared of Trump?

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DaveTheUseless
03/12/20 9:42:32 PM
#319:


87%. Still a 2% margin.

Both candidates have 31 delegates apiece out of Washington so far, so maybe this isn't worth paying too much attention to.

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Mr_Rian
03/13/20 2:53:52 AM
#320:


Broseph_Stalin posted...


"Europe" doesn't use single-payer but who gives a shit about facts I guess

She didn't say that. Why do you actively misrepresent things?
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Alpha218
03/13/20 8:40:30 AM
#321:


Please stop replying to Broseph

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Broseph_Stalin
03/13/20 11:15:30 AM
#322:


Alpha218 posted...
Please stop replying to Broseph

Mr_Rian posted...
She didn't say that. Why do you actively misrepresent things?

At 0:15 she clearly says South Korea, like European countries and Canada has single payer insurance.

The fuck is wrong with you guys? Like stop posting if you get this angry.
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Mr_Rian
03/13/20 11:45:40 AM
#323:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
At 0:15 she clearly says South Korea, like European countries and Canada has single payer insurance.

That's what I mean by misrepresenting. You posted "Europe" like she was saying all of Europe is the same. European countries do have single payer systems. Not literally all of them, but that wasn't her point, and she didn't say that.

Broseph_Stalin posted...
The fuck is wrong with you guys? Like stop posting if you get this angry.

If you read anything as angry that's all in your head. No one is getting heated over your posting. Maybe you're projecting? I don't know.
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Machete
03/13/20 12:00:47 PM
#324:


Alpha218 posted...
Please stop replying to Broseph


Why not just suspend him? >_>
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Alpha218
03/13/20 12:09:43 PM
#325:


Machete posted...
Why not just suspend him? >_>
Probably because we dont moderate people just because we dont like what they have to say?

Is that even a real question?

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DaveTheUseless
03/13/20 12:14:52 PM
#327:


https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1238227577329729536?s=19

l0l

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Alpha218
03/13/20 12:21:39 PM
#329:


Hairistotle posted...
Trolling isn't against the rules
If he was trolling another moderator would delete his posts (Im posting in this topic and modding him myself would be a direct conflict of interest). Being rude like he is doesnt reach the standard of trolling. Simply being rude or saying something you know other people dont agree with doesnt make something trolling. It goes beyond that.

That being said, I wish people would stop replying to him because he feels like he needs to keep attacking people that like Sanders despite them accepting that he lost.

DaveTheUseless posted...
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1238227577329729536?s=19

l0l
Id be surprised if 49% of likely voters even know who Gabbard is. There is a reason why she only has 2 delegates

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Doe
03/13/20 12:39:13 PM
#330:


CE is the ultimate test of liberal free speech. Every day we sit on the knife's edge between anarchy and tyranny.

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DaveTheUseless
03/13/20 7:25:17 PM
#331:


If anyone's curious, Biden holds around a 2% lead in Washington, with over 91% reporting.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/elections-2020/washington

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DaveTheUseless
03/13/20 7:45:35 PM
#332:


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/hillary-clintons-vice-presidential-odds-surge-now-5th-in-line

yippie

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Doom_Art
03/13/20 7:46:33 PM
#333:


I'd be shocked if Biden picked Clinton

By all accounts he never liked her

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wackyteen
03/13/20 7:50:14 PM
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that wouldn't end well I'd think.

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Smashingpmkns
03/13/20 9:01:14 PM
#335:


https://twitter.com/jackallisonLOL/status/1238622271498907648

They cut off the visual lmao
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Broseph_Stalin
03/13/20 10:02:03 PM
#337:


Mr_Rian posted...
You posted "Europe" like she was saying all of Europe is the same. European countries do have single payer systems. Not literally all of them, but that wasn't her point, and she didn't say that.

If you want to start the dumbest semantics argument ever, she should have said some European countries. And yes I would say the dudes saying I should be suspended are quite angry lmao, they really need to get off the internet and learn how to function as an adult.

DaveTheUseless posted...
If anyone's curious, Biden holds around a 2% lead in Washington, with over 91% reporting.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/elections-2020/washington

I wonder if Bernie is even going to be able to demand anything from the party this time around if he keeps losing everywhere like this. Especially since the DNC got so much shit for caucuses when Bernie was the one who forced them to keep them.
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Mr_Rian
03/14/20 3:20:41 AM
#338:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
If you want to start the dumbest semantics argument ever, she should have said some European countries. And yes I would say the dudes saying I should be suspended are quite angry lmao, they really need to get off the internet and learn how to function as an adult.

You literally started a semantics argument to begin with. That's precisely why I commented in the first place. If she wanted to say that all of Europe did, she would have just said "Europe", the same way you posted when attempting to mischaracterize her point. But she didn't, because the "some" in automatically understood by everyone except someone trying to be purposely obtuse.

And again, the anger is simply in your head. You are by far the most disingenuous and derailing poster in these topics, far more than even the conservatives that post in here, and some people would rather not have to deal with posts like yours and posts like mine responding to you clogging things up. I understand their opinion, but that doesn't make them angry. Annoyed maybe.
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DaveTheUseless
03/14/20 8:01:56 AM
#339:


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FursonaNonGrata
03/14/20 8:03:15 AM
#340:


Mr_Rian posted...
You literally started a semantics argument to begin with. That's precisely why I commented in the first place. If she wanted to say that all of Europe did, she would have just said "Europe", the same way you posted when attempting to mischaracterize her point. But she didn't, because the "some" in automatically understood by everyone except someone trying to be purposely obtuse.

And again, the anger is simply in your head. You are by far the most disingenuous and derailing poster in these topics, far more than even the conservatives that post in here, and some people would rather not have to deal with posts like yours and posts like mine responding to you clogging things up. I understand their opinion, but that doesn't make them angry. Annoyed maybe.

Broseph is very obviously a conservative troll

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NinjaWarrior455
03/14/20 8:10:44 AM
#341:


FursonaNonGrata posted...
Broseph is very obviously a conservative troll
Nah he's definitely a Dem troll. I know there's an extremely vocal subset of people that love the DNC and figures like Clinton and absolutely loathe progressives like Bernie.

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scar the 1
03/14/20 8:12:35 AM
#342:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Nah he's definitely a Dem troll. I know there's an extremely vocal subset of people that love the DNC and figures like Clinton and absolutely loathe progressives like Bernie.
Lol haven't you seen him in other topics? He's very much not a dem

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Antifar
03/14/20 9:34:59 AM
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NL
03/14/20 10:56:09 AM
#344:






You uh, you good Yang?

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wackyteen
03/14/20 10:58:46 AM
#345:


i feel like Yang and Bernie line more ideologically than he does with anyone else

though i only have cursory knowledge of Yang

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DaveTheUseless
03/14/20 11:24:58 AM
#346:


Yeah, he endorsed Sanders in '16, and his endorsement of Biden was a party unity 'he is going to win anyway, let's hurry up and huddle, go team' thing.

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wackyteen
03/14/20 11:43:46 AM
#347:


Bernie sent me an email wishing me well

Then he asked for $27 at the end of it

Bernie like that older brother that always comes over under innocent pretenses but by the end he's begging you for money

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Alpha218
03/14/20 12:22:12 PM
#349:


Like I said, electability is a stupid buzzword

Everyone says they have it the most but its meaningless

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DaveTheUseless
03/14/20 12:29:40 PM
#350:


I like it here. The trees are the right height.

47% of the voting public agrees.

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MaxEffingBemis
03/14/20 12:35:53 PM
#351:


NL posted...




You uh, you good Yang?
I dont understand why he endorsed Biden. He would have been better off fence-sitting like Warren and waiting until after the convention to endorse the nominee. Now he obv feels regret about it

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Mr_Rian
03/14/20 3:09:15 PM
#352:


MaxEffingBemis posted...
I dont understand why he endorsed Biden. He would have been better off fence-sitting like Warren and waiting until after the convention to endorse the nominee. Now he obv feels regret about it

Warren didn't have Biden and Obama leaning on her like Pete did.

But really him dropping out and endorsing Biden would have happened eventually. At best he(and Amy) would have made it so that no one could get a majority of delegates. They wouldn't have picked him at a contested convention. It would have been Biden or an even "worse" choice. But never Pete, Bernie, Amy, Tulsi, etc...
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