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Bio1590 03/09/20 9:18:41 PM #1:	https://time.com/5799765/intelligence-report-pandemic-dangers/ An annual intelligence report that has been postponed without explanation by President Donald Trumps administration warns that the U.S. remains unprepared for a global pandemic, two senior government officials who have reviewed a draft of the report tell TIME. The office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) was scheduled to deliver the Worldwide Threat Assessment to the House Intelligence Committee on Feb. 12 and the hearing has not been rescheduled, according to staffers and members of the House and Senate intelligence committees. The DNIs office declined requests for a comment on the status of the report. Democratic staffers say they do not expect the report to be released any time soon. The final draft of the report remains classified but the two officials who have read it say it contains warnings similar to those in the last installment, which was published on January 29, 2019. The 2019 report warns on page 29 that, The United States will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support. The 2019 warning was the third time in as many years that the nations intelligence experts said that a new strain of influenza could lead to a pandemic, and that the U.S. and the world were unprepared. Although the international community has made tenuous improvements to global health security, these gains may be inadequate to address the challenge of what we anticipate will be more frequent outbreaks of infectious diseases because of rapid unplanned urbanization, prolonged humanitarian crises, human incursion into previously unsettled land, expansion of international travel and trade, and regional climate change, the 2019 threat assessment warned. Rather than acting on these recurrent warnings and bolstering Americas ability to respond to an outbreak, the Trump administration has instead cut back money and personnel from pandemic preparedness. In May 2018, Trumps aides dismissed the National Security Councils global health security staff and moved to cut its budget. The White House also cut the budgets of the Centers for Disease Control and the Department of Health and Human Services, and closed the federal governments $30 million Complex Crises Fund. The postponement of the threat assessment is a concern beyond what it says about the dangers of pandemics, administration critics say. As worrying as the current global outbreak of the coronavirus disease COVID-19 is, it is hardly the only threat the U.S. faces worldwide. Other dangers flagged in the 2020 report, according to the two sources, include Irans return to nuclear enrichment, North Koreas accelerated launching of missiles and the increasingly urgent national security risks posed by climate change. Preventing a public airing of these threats leaves the public ignorant of the dangers they face and unable to assess the performance of their elected officials, critics of the Trump administration action say. The nature of the intelligence community means that most of their work is conducted in secret, and our hearings occur mostly behind closed doors, says the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Mark Warner of Virginia. The annual, public Worldwide Threats hearing serves several crucial purposes, most importantly allowing the American people to understand the multitude of threats out country faces and judge for themselves how our leaders are responding, Warner says. Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire was scheduled to present the threat assessment in mid-February. President Trump has since dismissed Maguire over a disagreement regarding Russian meddling in the 2020 election, and replaced him temporarily with an outspoken political ally, Richard Grenell, who is currently serving as U.S. Ambassador to Germany. Trump has nominated Texas Rep. John Ratcliffe to replace Maguire as the new DNI. Confirmation by the Senate could take months, and may leave Grenell in charge beyond Election Day in November under Section 3346 of the Federal Vacancies Reform Act. There is no legal requirement for the Director of National Intelligence to present the annual threat assessment to Congress or publish an unclassified version of it, although that has been the custom since 2006. Beyond pandemic preparedness, there are several foreign and national security threats over which the consensus position of the intelligence community and the President conflict. Trump continues to deny or downplay Russias efforts to interfere in U.S. elections through propaganda and disinformation promulgated on bogus social media accounts. The threat assessment has warned for years that Russia poses a cyber espionage, influence and attack threat to the United States and our allies. Trump touts his diplomatic efforts with North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Un, but past intelligence assessments have been skeptical about their effectiveness. This years still-unpublished report echoes the 2019 assessments that North Korea is unlikely to give up all its WMD stockpiles, delivery systems, and production capabilities and that North Korean leaders view nuclear arms as critical to regime survival, according to a former official who was involved in preparing this years report. U.S. intelligence officials say North Korea has not shut down all its nuclear and intercontinental ballistic missile test facilities, and that on Mar. 2, two days after the first anniversary of Trumps failed summit meeting with Kim in Hanoi, North Korea fired what intelligence analysts think were two short-range ballistic missiles in the latest in a series of missile tests. On Mar. 8, Pyongyang fired three more. Similarly, the recent fires in Australia, the African drought, and extreme weather, as well as new scientific reports on melting polar ice and rising sea levels, resemble the intelligence estimates of the dangers of climate change. The 2019 assessment, revisited in this years draft version, warned that, Climate hazards such as extreme weather, higher temperatures, droughts, floods, wildfires, sea level rise, soil degradation, and acidifying oceans are intensifying, threatening infrastructure, health, and water and food security. Trumps 2021 budget proposal would cut the budget of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency by 31% and the Environmental Protection Agency budget by 37%. In some areas, such as the growing importance of space to national security and the shrinking U.S. lead in developing artificial intelligence, 5G <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:935459786] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>https://time.com/5799765/intelligence-report-pandemic-dangers/ <quote>An annual intelligence report that has been postponed without explanation by President Donald Trumps administration warns that the U.S. remains unprepared for a global pandemic, two senior government officials who have reviewed a draft of the report tell TIME. The office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) was scheduled to deliver the Worldwide Threat Assessment to the House Intelligence Committee on Feb. 12 and the hearing has not been rescheduled, according to staffers and members of the House and Senate intelligence committees. The DNIs office declined requests for a comment on the status of the report. Democratic staffers say they do not expect the report to be released any time soon. The final draft of the report remains classified but the two officials who have read it say it contains warnings similar to those in the last installment, which was published on January 29, 2019. The 2019 report warns on page 29 that, The United States will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support. The 2019 warning was the third time in as many years that the nations intelligence experts said that a new strain of influenza could lead to a pandemic, and that the U.S. and the world were unprepared. Although the international community has made tenuous improvements to global health security, these gains may be inadequate to address the challenge of what we anticipate will be more frequent outbreaks of infectious diseases because of rapid unplanned urbanization, prolonged humanitarian crises, human incursion into previously unsettled land, expansion of international travel and trade, and regional climate change, the 2019 threat assessment warned. Rather than acting on these recurrent warnings and bolstering Americas ability to respond to an outbreak, the Trump administration has instead cut back money and personnel from pandemic preparedness. In May 2018, Trumps aides dismissed the National Security Councils global health security staff and moved to cut its budget. The White House also cut the budgets of the Centers for Disease Control and the Department of Health and Human Services, and closed the federal governments $30 million Complex Crises Fund. The postponement of the threat assessment is a concern beyond what it says about the dangers of pandemics, administration critics say. As worrying as the current global outbreak of the coronavirus disease COVID-19 is, it is hardly the only threat the U.S. faces worldwide. Other dangers flagged in the 2020 report, according to the two sources, include Irans return to nuclear enrichment, North Koreas accelerated launching of missiles and the increasingly urgent national security risks posed by climate change. Preventing a public airing of these threats leaves the public ignorant of the dangers they face and unable to assess the performance of their elected officials, critics of the Trump administration action say. The nature of the intelligence community means that most of their work is conducted in secret, and our hearings occur mostly behind closed doors, says the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Mark Warner of Virginia. The annual, public Worldwide Threats hearing serves several crucial purposes, most importantly allowing the American people to understand the multitude of threats out country faces and judge for themselves how our leaders are responding, Warner says. Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire was scheduled to present the threat assessment in mid-February. President Trump has since dismissed Maguire over a disagreement regarding Russian meddling in the 2020 election, and replaced him temporarily with an outspoken political ally, Richard Grenell, who is currently serving as U.S. Ambassador to Germany. Trump has nominated Texas Rep. John Ratcliffe to replace Maguire as the new DNI. Confirmation by the Senate could take months, and may leave Grenell in charge beyond Election Day in November under Section 3346 of the Federal Vacancies Reform Act. There is no legal requirement for the Director of National Intelligence to present the annual threat assessment to Congress or publish an unclassified version of it, although that has been the custom since 2006. Beyond pandemic preparedness, there are several foreign and national security threats over which the consensus position of the intelligence community and the President conflict. Trump continues to deny or downplay Russias efforts to interfere in U.S. elections through propaganda and disinformation promulgated on bogus social media accounts. The threat assessment has warned for years that Russia poses a cyber espionage, influence and attack threat to the United States and our allies. Trump touts his diplomatic efforts with North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Un, but past intelligence assessments have been skeptical about their effectiveness. This years still-unpublished report echoes the 2019 assessments that North Korea is unlikely to give up all its WMD stockpiles, delivery systems, and production capabilities and that North Korean leaders view nuclear arms as critical to regime survival, according to a former official who was involved in preparing this years report. U.S. intelligence officials say North Korea has not shut down all its nuclear and intercontinental ballistic missile test facilities, and that on Mar. 2, two days after the first anniversary of Trumps failed summit meeting with Kim in Hanoi, North Korea fired what intelligence analysts think were two short-range ballistic missiles in the latest in a series of missile tests. On Mar. 8, Pyongyang fired three more. Similarly, the recent fires in Australia, the African drought, and extreme weather, as well as new scientific reports on melting polar ice and rising sea levels, resemble the intelligence estimates of the dangers of climate change. The 2019 assessment, revisited in this years draft version, warned that, Climate hazards such as extreme weather, higher temperatures, droughts, floods, wildfires, sea level rise, soil degradation, and acidifying oceans are intensifying, threatening infrastructure, health, and water and food security. Trumps 2021 budget proposal would cut the budget of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency by 31% and the Environmental Protection Agency budget by 37%. In some areas, such as the growing importance of space to national security and the shrinking U.S. lead in developing artificial intelligence, 5G </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cmiller4642 03/09/20 9:19:31 PM #2:	Too bad it won't affect the rich <cite>cmiller4642 posted [p:935459836] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Too bad it won't affect the rich </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 03/09/20 9:19:55 PM #3:	My best friend is an RN at a hospital. She said her docs in the infectious diseases department have said there literally isn't a plan in place anywhere in the country right now. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:935459855] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>My best friend is an RN at a hospital. She said her docs in the infectious diseases department have said there literally isn't a plan in place anywhere in the country right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PostCrisisJ2 03/09/20 9:22:53 PM #4:	remember when people liked trump because he told it like it is isn't this like the complete opposite of that --- love live <cite>PostCrisisJ2 posted [p:935459995] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>remember when people liked trump because he told it like it is isn't this like the complete opposite of that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
butthole666 03/09/20 9:24:34 PM #5:	Keeping America Great I see --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s <cite>butthole666 posted [p:935460074] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Keeping America Great I see </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Odoylerules 03/09/20 9:40:06 PM #6:	PostCrisisJ2 posted... remember when people liked trump because he told it like it is isn't this like the complete opposite of that yes it is <cite>Odoylerules posted [p:935460725] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>PostCrisisJ2 posted...</cite> <quote>remember when people liked trump because he told it like it is isn't this like the complete opposite of that </quote> yes it is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 03/09/20 9:44:56 PM #7:	We live in a society. ~~At the moment, anyway.~~ --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:935460972] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>We live in a society. At the moment, anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abiz_ 03/09/20 9:46:56 PM #8:	Of course, we aren't ready for pandemic. 90%+ of our medicine is made in China. Globalist have gone stupid. <cite>Abiz_ posted [p:935461073] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Of course, we aren't ready for pandemic. 90%+ of our medicine is made in China. Globalist have gone stupid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 03/09/20 9:47:25 PM #9:	Its almost like ignoring the advice of real scientists and putting people who don't believe in science in charge of this thing wasn't a good idea. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:935461098] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Its almost like ignoring the advice of real scientists and putting people who don't believe in science in charge of this thing wasn't a good idea. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/09/20 9:47:51 PM #10:	Abiz_ posted... Of course, we aren't ready for pandemic. 90%+ of our medicine is made in China. Globalist have gone stupid. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:935461121] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Abiz_ posted... </cite> <quote>Of course, we aren't ready for pandemic. 90%+ of our medicine is made in China. Globalist have gone stupid.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/09/20 9:48:55 PM #11:	How the hell can a pandemic even be "controlled" without stomping all over liberty? Even then, there's always going to be someone "too important", "too broke", or just plain too stupid to stay quarantined. Do we start shooting single moms who can't miss another day at work "or else"? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:935461171] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>How the hell can a pandemic even be "controlled" without stomping all over liberty? Even then, there's always going to be someone "too important", "too broke", or just plain too stupid to stay quarantined. Do we start shooting single moms who can't miss another day at work "or else"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abiz_ 03/09/20 9:49:15 PM #12:	hockeybub89 posted... https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3oaknky <NBC news btw It's pretty scary. <cite>Abiz_ posted [p:935461196] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote></quote>https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3oaknky <NBC news btw It's pretty scary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 03/09/20 9:50:19 PM #13:	Questionmarktarius posted... Even then, there's always going to be someone "too important" or "too broke" to stay quarantined. Do we start shooting single moms who can't miss another day at work "or else"? Its almost like you're SO CLOSE to figuring out that this is a problem we can fix....Yet for some reason you feign blissful ignorance... --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:935461234] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Even then, there's always going to be someone "too important" or "too broke" to stay quarantined. Do we start shooting single moms who can't miss another day at work "or else"?</quote>Its almost like you're SO CLOSE to figuring out that this is a problem we can fix....Yet for some reason you feign blissful ignorance... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/09/20 9:51:19 PM #14:	VipaGTS posted... Its almost like you're SO CLOSE to figuring out that this is a problem we can fix....Yet for some reason you feign blissful ignorance... Stay home. Amazon will bring you your toilet paper hoard. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:935461278] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>VipaGTS posted... </cite> <quote>Its almost like you're SO CLOSE to figuring out that this is a problem we can fix....Yet for some reason you feign blissful ignorance...</quote>Stay home. Amazon will bring you your toilet paper hoard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
butthole666 03/09/20 9:52:45 PM #15:	Questionmarktarius posted... Stay home. Amazon will bring you your toilet paper hoard. Lets try spelling it out S --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s <cite>butthole666 posted [p:935461348] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Stay home. Amazon will bring you your toilet paper hoard.</quote>Lets try spelling it out S </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/09/20 9:56:17 PM #16:	butthole666 posted... S ...urgeon General says stay the hell home. https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/status/1236783235293741065?s=19 <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:935461514] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>butthole666 posted... </cite> <quote>S</quote>...urgeon General says stay the hell home. https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/status/1236783235293741065?s=19 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 03/09/20 9:57:40 PM #17:	Keep stalling. Bet you can't stall until November 3. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:935461574] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Keep stalling. Bet you can't stall until November 3. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Odoylerules 03/09/20 10:08:19 PM #18:	Questionmarktarius posted... ...urgeon General says stay the hell home. https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/status/1236783235293741065?s=19 Employers dont give a fuck about their employees <cite>Odoylerules posted [p:935462093] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote> ...urgeon General says stay the hell home. https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/status/1236783235293741065?s=19 </quote> Employers dont give a fuck about their employees</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HelloImaPC 03/09/20 10:27:26 PM #19:	It's a hoax though --- People who looked at this writing in my sig: 34,931 <cite>HelloImaPC posted [p:935462821] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>It's a hoax though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 03/09/20 10:34:50 PM #20:	PostCrisisJ2 posted... remember when people liked trump because he told it like it is isn't this like the complete opposite of that https://i.imgur.com/zJEx7P7.jpg always relevant --- https://imgur.com/HUHxlFl You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:935463085] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>PostCrisisJ2 posted... </cite> <quote>remember when people liked trump because he told it like it is isn't this like the complete opposite of that</quote> https://i.imgur.com/zJEx7P7.jpg always relevant </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 03/09/20 10:45:41 PM #21:	Im shocked anyone thinks the government is competent at anything Remember healthcare.gov? Yikes <cite>Romes187 posted [p:935463527] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Im shocked anyone thinks the government is competent at anything Remember healthcare.gov? Yikes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GallisOTK 03/09/20 10:46:10 PM #22:	VipaGTS posted... Its almost like ignoring the advice of real scientists and putting people who don't believe in science in charge of this thing wasn't a good idea. --- "WHAT THE HELL'S GOIN' ON OUT HERE!?" ~ Vince Lombardi https://imgur.com/rDu2AJS <cite>GallisOTK posted [p:935463541] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Its almost like ignoring the advice of real scientists and putting people who don't believe in science in charge of this thing wasn't a good idea. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 03/09/20 10:50:12 PM #23:	jumi posted... Keep stalling. Bet you can't stall until November 3. For fuck sake this is not something that should be used for political theater. People's lives are on the line and all you can think about is using it to progress your agenda. Its sick and wrong. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:935463719] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>jumi posted... </cite> <quote>Keep stalling. Bet you can't stall until November 3.</quote>For fuck sake this is not something that should be used for political theater. People's lives are on the line and all you can think about is using it to progress your agenda. Its sick and wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tryhaptaward 03/09/20 10:52:39 PM #24:	Duncanwii posted... For fuck sake this is not something that should be used for political theater. People's lives are on the line and all you can think about is using it to progress your agenda. Its sick and wrong. shut the fuck up <cite>Tryhaptaward posted [p:935463827] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>For fuck sake this is not something that should be used for political theater. People's lives are on the line and all you can think about is using it to progress your agenda. Its sick and wrong.</quote> shut the fuck up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 03/09/20 10:54:14 PM #25:	Duncanwii posted... For fuck sake this is not something that should be used for political theater. People's lives are on the line and all you can think about is using it to progress your agenda. Its sick and wrong. Shut the fuck up --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:935463908] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>For fuck sake this is not something that should be used for political theater. People's lives are on the line and all you can think about is using it to progress your agenda. Its sick and wrong.</quote>Shut the fuck up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 03/09/20 10:55:32 PM #26:	Irony posted... Shut the fuck up I'm sorry that using peoples lives as chess pieces is acceptable to you. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:935463964] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite> <quote>Shut the fuck up</quote>I'm sorry that using peoples lives as chess pieces is acceptable to you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
butthole666 03/09/20 10:57:53 PM #27:	Questionmarktarius posted... ...urgeon General says stay the hell home. https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/status/1236783235293741065?s=19 O --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s <cite>butthole666 posted [p:935464060] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>...urgeon General says stay the hell home. https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/status/1236783235293741065?s=19</quote>O </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 03/09/20 11:12:35 PM #28:	Duncanwii posted... For fuck sake this is not something that should be used for political theater. People's lives are on the line and all you can think about is using it to progress your agenda. Its sick and wrong. The virus is here and the Trump administration is unprepared for it. Those are the facts. If it gets Trump out of office, it at least accomplished one good thing. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:935464662] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>For fuck sake this is not something that should be used for political theater. People's lives are on the line and all you can think about is using it to progress your agenda. Its sick and wrong.</quote> The virus is here and the Trump administration is unprepared for it. Those are the facts. If it gets Trump out of office, it at least accomplished one good thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/09/20 11:16:41 PM #29:	jumi posted... The virus is here and the Trump administration is unprepared for it. The only president who would have been close to prepared would probably have been FDR. It wouldn't have been pretty. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:935464836] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>jumi posted... </cite> <quote>The virus is here and the Trump administration is unprepared for it.</quote>The only president who would have been close to prepared would probably have been FDR. It wouldn't have been pretty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToPoPO 03/09/20 11:18:58 PM #30:	Duncanwii posted... I'm sorry that using peoples lives as chess pieces is acceptable to you. coming from from someone who blames rape victims and also sides with China over Hong Kong <cite>ToPoPO posted [p:935464918] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>I'm sorry that using peoples lives as chess pieces is acceptable to you.</quote> coming from from someone who blames rape victims and also sides with China over Hong Kong </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 03/09/20 11:24:07 PM #31:	ToPoPO posted... coming from from someone who blames rape victims and also sides with China over Hong Kong I didnt side with either of them that's the point of neutrality. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:935465115] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>ToPoPO posted... </cite> <quote>coming from from someone who blames rape victims and also sides with China over Hong Kong</quote>I didnt side with either of them that's the point of neutrality. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToPoPO 03/09/20 11:25:13 PM #32:	Duncanwii posted... I didnt side with either of them that's the point of neutrality. aka you don't give a shit about basic human rights <cite>ToPoPO posted [p:935465159] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>I didnt side with either of them that's the point of neutrality.</quote> aka you don't give a shit about basic human rights </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/09/20 11:26:01 PM #33:	Trump can't hide from this. If he turns about to be right then ok. But if he turns out to be wrong (much more likely) it will destroy his presidency and he will become MUCH more unpopular than he ever was. He will have no supporters. Also yeah, this would be bad for any presidency. But no other president would have reacted to it like Trump did and Trump's reaction to it could end up being the thing he is most remembered for. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:935465182] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Trump can't hide from this. If he turns about to be right then ok. But if he turns out to be wrong (much more likely) it will destroy his presidency and he will become MUCH more unpopular than he ever was. He will have no supporters. Also yeah, this would be bad for any presidency. But no other president would have reacted to it like Trump did and Trump's reaction to it could end up being the thing he is most remembered for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/09/20 11:27:47 PM #34:	Damn_Underscore posted... If he turns about to be right then ok. But if he turns out to be wrong (much more likely) it will destroy his presidency and he will become MUCH more unpopular than he ever was. He will have no supporters. It if burns itself out around the middle of May, Trump will be unharmed. If it keeps going into November, Trump is gone. God help us all if Bernie gets elected into a down market and a plague. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:935465252] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>If he turns about to be right then ok. But if he turns out to be wrong (much more likely) it will destroy his presidency and he will become MUCH more unpopular than he ever was. He will have no supporters.</quote>It if burns itself out around the middle of May, Trump will be unharmed. If it keeps going into November, Trump is gone. God help us all if Bernie gets elected into a down market and a plague. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZEROWOLF 03/09/20 11:30:45 PM #35:	How long before he blames the Obama administration? --- Sam and Robert are the hitch-hikers on the road. --Necronomicon incantation (The Evil Dead) <cite>ZEROWOLF posted [p:935465365] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>How long before he blames the Obama administration? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 03/09/20 11:32:48 PM #36:	ZEROWOLF posted... How long before he blames the Obama administration? He already did --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:935465429] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>ZEROWOLF posted... </cite> <quote>How long before he blames the Obama administration?</quote>He already did </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/09/20 11:32:52 PM #37:	ZEROWOLF posted... How long before he blames the Obama administration? Blame Clinton, for opening up the Chinese market. Hell, let's blame Nixon, for even starting to open up relations with China. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:935465431] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>ZEROWOLF posted... </cite> <quote>How long before he blames the Obama administration?</quote>Blame Clinton, for opening up the Chinese market. Hell, let's blame Nixon, for even starting to open up relations with China. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 03/10/20 12:04:39 AM #38:	laughable incompetence that many will sadly defend do to tribal sectarianism. --- "A superhero in the flesh, even at my worst I'm the best"-Big KRIT <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:935466498] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>laughable incompetence that many will sadly defend do to tribal sectarianism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 03/10/20 12:06:36 AM #39:	Questionmarktarius posted... Stay home. Amazon will bring you your toilet paper hoard. My friend works at an amazon warehouse and says the people who pack your boxes dont wash their hands after taking a shit --- It ok Hameru. Rabu. <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:935466566] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Stay home. Amazon will bring you your toilet paper hoard.</quote> My friend works at an amazon warehouse and says the people who pack your boxes dont wash their hands after taking a shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 03/10/20 12:08:43 AM #40:	Questionmarktarius posted... Stay home. Amazon will bring you your toilet paper hoard. Amazon is giving all their employees the month off thanks to Corona. So good luck with that. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:935466645] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Stay home. Amazon will bring you your toilet paper hoard.</quote>Amazon is giving all their employees the month off thanks to Corona. So good luck with that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/10/20 12:12:53 AM #41:	Duncanwii posted... Amazon is giving all their employees the month off thanks to Corona. So good luck with that. Well, shit. ...and no toilet paper to wipe that shit. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:935466755] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Amazon is giving all their employees the month off thanks to Corona. So good luck with that.</quote>Well, shit. ...and no toilet paper to wipe that shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 03/10/20 12:15:16 AM #42:	So Trump knew AT LEAST since Feb 12th and has sat on his hands and stuck his head in the sand since then. He continues to have the CDC deny testing to keep the official numbers low, calling it a flu and other bullshit. This guy is an awful human being --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:935466830] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>So Trump knew AT LEAST since Feb 12th and has sat on his hands and stuck his head in the sand since then. He continues to have the CDC deny testing to keep the official numbers low, calling it a flu and other bullshit. This guy is an awful human being </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 03/10/20 12:18:15 AM #43:	solosnake posted... So Trump knew AT LEAST since Feb 12th and has sat on his hands and stuck his head in the sand since then. He continues to have the CDC deny testing to keep the official numbers low, calling it a flu and other bullshit. This guy is an awful human being Here's the thing-- the administration made decent initial choices. Bought some time. Then promptly wasted that time going to rallies, golfing, posting on twitter and watching Fox. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:935466921] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>solosnake posted... </cite> <quote>So Trump knew AT LEAST since Feb 12th and has sat on his hands and stuck his head in the sand since then. He continues to have the CDC deny testing to keep the official numbers low, calling it a flu and other bullshit. This guy is an awful human being</quote> Here's the thing-- the administration made decent initial choices. Bought some time. Then promptly wasted that time going to rallies, golfing, posting on twitter and watching Fox. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/10/20 12:20:32 AM #44:	solosnake posted... So Trump knew AT LEAST since Feb 12th and has sat on his hands and stuck his head in the sand since then. He continues to have the CDC deny testing to keep the official numbers low, calling it a flu and other bullshit. Again, there is nothing the government can meaningfully do without stomping on individual liberty, apart from maybe bribing McDonalds to not fire a plague carrier for not finding someone to cover the shift. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:935467003] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>solosnake posted... </cite> <quote>So Trump knew AT LEAST since Feb 12th and has sat on his hands and stuck his head in the sand since then. He continues to have the CDC deny testing to keep the official numbers low, calling it a flu and other bullshit.</quote>Again, there is nothing the government can meaningfully do without stomping on individual liberty, apart from maybe bribing McDonalds to not fire a plague carrier for not finding someone to cover the shift. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 03/10/20 12:26:56 AM #45:	Questionmarktarius posted... Again, there is nothing the government can meaningfully do without stomping on individual liberty, apart from maybe bribing McDonalds to not fire a plague carrier for not finding someone to cover the shift. They were months too slow in responding to the virus. When It hit China we could & should have been making millions of test kits, getting more ventilators & protective gear for health workers. We should have set up coronavirus centers in every community. Should have been training medical professionals, not just leaving them to the shit storm to come. Even now, they continue to deny people testing to keep the numbers artificially low, there is no excuse As it stands, if a person with coronavirus enters an ER- everyone has to self quarantine- taking away much needed health workers. --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:935467174] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Again, there is nothing the government can meaningfully do without stomping on individual liberty, apart from maybe bribing McDonalds to not fire a plague carrier for not finding someone to cover the shift.</quote> They were months too slow in responding to the virus. When It hit China we could & should have been making millions of test kits, getting more ventilators & protective gear for health workers. We should have set up coronavirus centers in every community. Should have been training medical professionals, not just leaving them to the shit storm to come. Even now, they continue to deny people testing to keep the numbers artificially low, there is no excuse As it stands, if a person with coronavirus enters an ER- everyone has to self quarantine- taking away much needed health workers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/10/20 12:29:38 AM #46:	solosnake posted... They were months too slow in responding to the virus. When It hit China we could & should have been making millions of test kits, getting more ventilators & protective gear for health workers. Okay, I'll grant you that. We should have had ten labs going at, instead of one. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:935467252] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>solosnake posted... </cite> <quote>They were months too slow in responding to the virus. When It hit China we could & should have been making millions of test kits, getting more ventilators & protective gear for health workers.</quote>Okay, I'll grant you that. We should have had ten labs going at, instead of one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 03/10/20 12:29:41 AM #47:	AlisLandale posted... My friend works at an amazon warehouse and says the people who pack your boxes dont wash their hands after taking a shit don't tell me these things, man... --- take me somewhere nice "Miss, can you tell me your address? I need an address...I need an address, so we can send help." <cite>EverDownward posted [p:935467253] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted... </cite> <quote>My friend works at an amazon warehouse and says the people who pack your boxes dont wash their hands after taking a shit</quote>don't tell me these things, man... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToPoPO 03/10/20 12:30:20 AM #48:	Trump doesn't give a shit anymore now that Bernie and his crew seem to be all but demoralized and destroyed <cite>ToPoPO posted [p:935467278] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Trump doesn't give a shit anymore now that Bernie and his crew seem to be all but demoralized and destroyed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maverick832 03/10/20 1:28:26 AM #49:	Duncanwii posted... For fuck sake this is not something that should be used for political theater. People's lives are on the line and all you can think about is using it to progress your agenda. Its sick and wrong. And you think Trump gives a fuck what happens to those people? He doesn't care about anyone but himself. <cite>Maverick832 posted [p:935468694] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>For fuck sake this is not something that should be used for political theater. People's lives are on the line and all you can think about is using it to progress your agenda. Its sick and wrong.</quote>And you think Trump gives a fuck what happens to those people? He doesn't care about anyone but himself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 03/10/20 1:37:14 AM #50:	this is hurricane katrina with george bush levels of bad --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:935468898] in Trump Admi... [t:78461652]...</cite> <quote>this is hurricane katrina with george bush levels of bad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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