Current Events > What is the single weakest line in The Bible that discredits it?

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Give me a few examples.

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no

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And then all the animals of the world put on to one boat and the world flooded part

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Lord_Shadow posted...

And then all the animals of the world put on to one boat and the world flooded part

Maybe it was a big boat.

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Feetish posted...

Maybe it was a big boat.

It was in feet of 450 x 75 x 45, which compares with 850 x 92 x 64 for the Titanic.

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Foppe posted...

It was in feet of 450 x 75 x 45, which compares with 850 x 92 x 64 for the Titanic.

Maybe the animals were smaller in those days. They probably hadnt evolved to the sizes they are today.

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Feetish posted...

Maybe the animals were smaller in those days. They probably hadnt evolved to the sizes they are today.

Animals were bigger in the past

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The part where God needed to take a breather after creating the universe.

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The part where Jesus put his hands over a blind mans eyes and suddenly he could see again

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Bananana posted...

Animals were bigger in the past

Proof?

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The title....

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Shotgunnova posted...

The part where God needed to take a breather after creating the universe.

#notmyJehova

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There's so much. I don't see how people can earnestly believe in the Bible, but say that psychic abilities/magic is not real, cryptids/aliens definitely don't exist, etc.

It's weird. I'm not saying anything is or isn't real, but I don't know how you can pick and choose stories like that. Fairy tale level shit existed two thousand years ago but now suddenly everything is cut and dried?

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Its a story book with no proof at all.

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Feetish posted...

Maybe the animals were smaller in those days. They probably hadnt evolved to the sizes they are today.

The secret is that Noah saved the DNA and/or embryo of every animal.


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Foppe posted...

The secret is that Noah saved the DNA and/or embryo of every animal.

God really was something in those days wasnt he.

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God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good.

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Lairen posted...

Its a story book with no proof at all.

How so? The proof is in the Bible.

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Ezekiel 23:20

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On the first day God created Earth, he added light and separated light from darkness to create day and night.
On the fourth day, he created all the stars in the sky (and all other planets?), the sun and the moon.

How did we have light without the sun and why did he add the sun if it was not needed?

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Foppe posted...

On the first day God created Earth, he added light and separated light from darkness to create day and night.
On the fourth day, he created all the stars in the sky (and all other planets?), the sun and the moon.

How did we have light without the sun and why did he add the sun if it was not needed?

He created the stars from the light.

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A talking snake...was Adam and Eve eating opium in Eden?

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so there are no really religious people in this topic?

Strange. I cant see post #24.

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PokemonExpert44 posted...

How so? The proof is in the Bible.

It's not. The bible cannot be proof of itself. That isn't how proof works, that's how faith works. Nothing wrong with faith, but you should see it for what it is.

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Genesis Chapter 1, Verse 1

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IloveJesus posted...

It's not. The bible cannot be proof of itself. That isn't how proof works, that's how faith works. Nothing wrong with faith, but you should see it for what it is.

I didn't day the Bible was proof of itself. I said that the Bible has a large amount of evidence in its favor. Also, many non Christian sources support the Bible

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IloveJesus posted...

It's not. The bible cannot be proof of itself. That isn't how proof works, that's how faith works. Nothing wrong with faith, but you should see it for what it is.

Everything is wrong with that nonsensical way of reasoning.
Hell, we'd probably already be extinct as a species were it not for scientific and logical reasoning.

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PokemonExpert44 posted...

I didn't day the Bible was proof of itself. I said that the Bible has a large amount of evidence in its favor. Also, many non Christian sources support the Bible

Just because parts of it got outside sources doesnt mean that everything in the Bible is supported.
Like the Book of Exodus that says that the Israelites were slaves in Egypt. The Egyptians loved to take notes of everything, and even when they have tried to censor stuff it was still recorded, and yet it doesnt mention those slaves.
And when they escaped, where did they escape?
They escaped from Egypt to... Egypt! Yes, Gods promised land was just another part of Egypt back then.

That said, the plagues of Egypt can be explained by the aftermatch of an volcano eruption, so they most likely took an old story and added God to it.
Like the Flood myth that many old religions and myths share.

Or the Roman Pilate that is known for his brutality in every recording of him, except for the Bible where he is almost turned to a good guy that just want to help Jesus. He could kill every man, woman and child in a village just because of a rumor of somebody that could cause trouble lived there, but in the Bible he is just letting a terrorist go instead of Jesus, and it exist no records that the governor even let a person free at the Passover Festival. And he would never have let Jesus walk away, because anybody claiming the throne would be a threat and enemy to the Roman state.
The 4 Gospels are clearly written in such a way to take away the blame of Jesus death from the Romans and put it on the Jews, to make it easier to convert Romans into Christianity. The Romans wouldnt have accepted Christianity as a religion if they were painted as the bad guys that killed their Lord the savior.

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KINDERFELD posted...

Everything is wrong with that nonsensical way of reasoning.
Hell, we'd probably already be extinct as a species were it not for scientific and logical reasoning.

The problem there is that you're claiming that faith is a kind of reasoning. It's not. It's the absence of reasoning.

And yes, if that was all we had to go on we probably would be extinct. But we probably would be if we were purely logical too.

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IloveJesus posted...

The problem there is that you're claiming that faith is a kind of reasoning. It's not. It's the absence of reasoning.

And yes, if that was all we had to go on we probably would be extinct. But we probably would be if we were purely logical too.

I strongly doubt this.
We don't send people out into space based on faith.
We don't give out medical licenses based on faith.

Churches rob poor people blind of their pennies based on faith.

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I read an article many years ago about how the human brain is wired for belief.

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KINDERFELD posted...

I strongly doubt this.
We don't send people out into space based on faith.
We don't give out medical licenses based on faith.

Churches rob poor people blind of their pennies based on faith.

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I'd disagree that self-preservation is entirely logical.

I'm not saying that logic is a bad thing. It's great. However, if we were purely logical it would actually impede our decision making ability. You can't always see a logical conclusion. Sometimes there's no reason to choose one of two options over another. But most importantly, almost all of our relationships with other people are based, to some extent, on faith. Our ability to form families, friendships and societies has been instrumental in our survival as a species.

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IloveJesus posted...

I'd disagree that self-preservation is entirely logical.

I'm not saying that logic is a bad thing. It's great. However, if we were purely logical it would actually impede our decision making ability. You can't always see a logical conclusion. Sometimes there's no reason to choose one of two options over another. But most importantly, almost all of our relationships with other people are based, to some extent, on faith. Our ability to form families, friendships and societies has been instrumental in our survival as a species.

Not true, but hey, you're entitled to an opinion.

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If you take Genesis literally it falls apart quickly. God, who is all knowing, creates Lucifer, whom he believes to be perfect, and we are told specifically that angels do not have free will. Yet somehow Lucifer betrays him. He then, despite being all powerful, allows Lucifer to continue existing and trick Eve into eating the forbidden fruit, which he punishes all of humanity for until his son has to die to undo it. The whole thing is just a series of head scratchers.

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KINDERFELD posted...

Not true, but hey, you're entitled to an opinion.

It's not an opinion. It's fact. I don't see how anybody could dispute it.

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ssjevot posted...

If you take Genesis literally it falls apart quickly. God, who is all knowing, creates Lucifer, whom he believes to be perfect, and we are told specifically that angels do not have free will. Yet somehow Lucifer betrays him. He then, despite being all powerful, allows Lucifer to continue existing and trick Eve into eating the forbidden fruit, which he punishes all of humanity for until his son has to die to undo it. The whole thing is just a series of head scratchers.

That is because you dont understand Gods big plan.

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Shotgunnova posted...

The part where God needed to take a breather after creating the universe.

Does it say he needed to?

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Lord_Shadow posted...

And then all the animals of the world put on to one boat and the world flooded part

IIRC, this is one thing historians think might have actually happened because there are so many cultures that have a myth about a great flood.

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"I saw the sign and it opened up my eyes, I saw the sign. Life is demanding without understanding" Isaiah 3:13-14

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Verdekal posted...

Does it say he needed to?

iirc it said he doubled over with a fatty grunt

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Shotgunnova posted...

The part where God needed to take a breather after creating the universe.

Actually the original Hebrew word Shabbat meant abstain.

https://miryamdevorah.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/bshabbat-the-seventh-day-he-abstained/

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The part where he makes a human version of himself to be martyred so he can apparently save all of us from himself doesn't really make sense.

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Lol at this topic.

Frogles posted...

no

The only appropriate response

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how the fuck did the fit dinosaurs on noah's ark?

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oh wait they didnt thats why theres no dinosaurs today, checkmate atheists

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