Poll of the Day > Do you deserve to be fired for reporting your job to the authorities?

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Solid Sonic
03/04/20 9:48:15 AM
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Is it "disloyal"?

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Kyuubi4269
03/04/20 9:51:17 AM
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Yes, but the government should commend you and compensate any associated losses.
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Solid Sonic
03/04/20 9:53:28 AM
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The government is only responsible for enforcing the laws that were violated when you brought it to their attention. The consequences your employer enacts upon you for doing so is technically not their responsibility.

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PMarth2002
03/04/20 9:58:21 AM
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... Isn't that super illegal?

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Solid Sonic
03/04/20 10:00:07 AM
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PMarth2002 posted...
... Isn't that super illegal?

It's illegal (well...sort of; "at-will employment" means "screw you, you're fired" but you can still try to seek compensation through wrongful termination lawsuits even in spite of that) but I'm just talking about the relationship between the employer and employee. What happens after isn't in contention.

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JoeDangIt
03/04/20 10:10:58 AM
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It's disloyal to society to not report crimes.
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PMarth2002
03/04/20 10:11:40 AM
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Thought so. Anyway, no, thats super scummy on the part of the employer.

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EvilMegas
03/04/20 10:18:50 AM
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There are government whistleblower protections but they don't mean shit

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Mead
03/04/20 10:21:47 AM
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depends on whether or not your bosses ARE the authorities

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Zeus
03/04/20 10:53:56 AM
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In theory, yes, because you're a liability whether it was something you should have instead taken through proper channels, if you did it because you didn't get your desired result through proper channels, if you just wanted to spite the company, etc, although it also depends on what was reported and how the company feels about that thing. However, a lot of things are so minor -- and there can be a measure of anonymity -- that there's probably not going to be substantial blowback over it in the first place.

PMarth2002 posted...
... Isn't that super illegal?

In some cases, I think it has associated fines, but it's not something anybody might go to jail over.

EvilMegas posted...
There are government whistleblower protections but they don't mean shit

From a practical standpoint, you can't really expect to work at a place that you've seen as acting egregiously enough it should be reported to the law because you yourself object to it (ie, the "How can I work for a company like this?") and the company loses its ability to trust you. The laws are well-intended, but they're also kinda stupid because nothing's going to effectively work like that because if you stay you'll always be known for what you did, even if you were in the right. The only exception is if it was something that the majority of the company didn't actually agree with, but at that point somebody from the company itself would have handled it.

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Solid Sonic
03/04/20 10:57:59 AM
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Zeus posted...
In some cases, I think it has associated fines, but it's not something anybody might go to jail over.

Or rather it's very often a civil matter, not a criminal one.

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Aeptia
03/04/20 11:01:28 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Yes, but the government should commend you and compensate any associated losses.
Why? You are reporting a job to the authorities. A lack of jail time is your reward lol.

Mead posted...
depends on whether or not your bosses ARE the authorities
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Kyuubi4269
03/04/20 11:56:05 AM
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Aeptia posted...
Why? You are reporting a job to the authorities. A lack of jail time is your reward lol.

Why would you be jailed for reporting a crime?
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Solid Sonic
03/04/20 11:57:08 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Why would you be jailed for reporting a crime?

I think he assumes that whatever your job did, you were complicit on (like destroying evidence of duplicity) until you decided to rat them out to save your own skin, not things like workers' abuse or pay stiffing or whatever.

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Ogurisama
03/04/20 11:58:57 AM
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If a company is doing something illegal, ans youre the whistleblower, you should recieve 3 months of equal to your pay from the government (which the company will get fined that plus what ever the fine)

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