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LordRazziel
03/03/20 9:34:27 PM
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Is Ocarina of Time an RPG?


Is Ocarina of Time an RPG?

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Rika_Furude
03/03/20 9:35:40 PM
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Its action adventure

And smash bros is a fighting game

And mario kart is a racing game

And CSGO is a fps

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Lordgold666
03/03/20 9:37:28 PM
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No

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SSJKirby
03/03/20 9:37:41 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
And CSGO is a fps
what do the weirdos say it is

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Rika_Furude
03/03/20 9:43:25 PM
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Conflict posted...
Also who said Mario Kart wasn't a racing game?
Its been called a party game and strictly not a racing game on this board many times

SSJKirby posted...
what do the weirdos say it is
I threw that in there as a natural escalation of what the weirdos say about the previous 3 games

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03/03/20 9:45:00 PM
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Wewillrocku
03/03/20 9:49:49 PM
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no.

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Deku_Link
03/03/20 9:52:44 PM
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Action adventure

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Skye Reynolds
03/03/20 10:01:31 PM
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RPG = turn based
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LordRazziel
03/03/20 10:02:20 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
RPG = turn based
No, it doesn't.

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Wewillrocku
03/03/20 10:03:20 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
No, it doesn't.


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Master_Happosai
03/03/20 10:03:22 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
RPG = turn based

No, turn based is just a style of RPG
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Skye Reynolds
03/03/20 10:04:09 PM
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Okay, if turn based combat isn't the definition of a role playing game, what is?

You could argue that Super Mario Bros. is a role-playing game because you play the role of Mario.
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LordRazziel
03/03/20 10:06:33 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Okay, if turn based combat isn't the definition of a role playing game, what is?

You could argue that Super Mario Bros. is a role-playing game because you play the role of Mario.
Character and skill leveling, basically. There are always gray areas, of course.

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Skye Reynolds
03/03/20 10:13:33 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Character and skill leveling, basically. There are always gray areas, of course.

When I played Captain America and the Avengers on NES last week, I had no idea I was playing an RPG.



Captain America and Hawkeye collect power gems to level up a total of four times in the game. In addition to gaining stamina and power, Captain America gets a new shield attack and Hawkeye's arrows become exploding arrows.

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LordRazziel
03/03/20 10:24:55 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
When I played Captain America and the Avengers on NES last week, I had no idea I was playing an RPG.



Captain America and Hawkeye collect power gems to level up a total of four times in the game. In addition to gaining stamina and power, Captain America gets a new shield attack and Hawkeye's arrows become exploding arrows.
Don't know the game, but like a said, there is always a gray area.

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Rikiaz
03/03/20 10:26:31 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
And CSGO is a fps
Who the fuck says this isnt true?

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Wewillrocku
03/03/20 10:27:22 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Don't know the game, but like a said, there is always a gray area.
not really. there isn't a gray area if you have more colors than black and white.

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Rikiaz
03/03/20 10:28:42 PM
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No Zelda game is an RPG (except maybe Adventure of Link) and I really dont understand any arguments that it is.

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LordRazziel
03/03/20 10:32:08 PM
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Wewillrocku posted...
not really. there isn't a gray area if you have more colors than black and white.
http://i.imgur.com/j9JTIuF.mp4

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Kircheis
03/03/20 10:38:54 PM
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@Skye_Reynolds

Since games have to be turn-based in order to be considered RPGs according to your logic, would you or would you not consider Elder Scrolls to be an RPG series? What about Deus Ex, or Mass Effect? I'm only asking because I honestly can't tell if you're being deliberately obtuse or if you just don't know any better. Not trying to be mean or anything, just trying to understand your thought process here.
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Skye Reynolds
03/03/20 10:40:20 PM
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Sorry, I've never played those games.
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AlisLandale
03/03/20 10:43:21 PM
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If Zelda is an RPG, then so are Ducktales and Banjo-Kazooie. >_>

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Kircheis
03/03/20 10:43:53 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Sorry, I've never played those games.


Mmh, that's fair. Out of what I mentioned I've only played Skyrim (didn't like) and the first 2 Mass Effect games (never finished the 2nd), and those are pretty unambiguously RPGs. Constricting the RPG label to turn-based is just being narrow-minded in this day and age. We're not stuck in the days where RPGs were mostly turn-based due to system limitations anymore, know what I mean?
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PatrickMahomes
03/03/20 10:51:09 PM
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So you "assume the role" (play) the role of the "character" (Link) in a "fictional setting" (Hyrule).

You take responsibility for acting out these roles within a "narrative" (save hyrule from ganon)... through "structured decision-making regarding character development" (go where you want, get new gear, follow the story)"

Actions may succeed or fail due to "rules and guidelines" (hit an enemy, they die. Run out of HP, you die).

So, yes, it is.

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Lunar_Savage
03/03/20 10:57:13 PM
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Other than sometimes getting to rename Link, can you fully customize who you play as? No? Then no, you do not have a RPG. (and before anyone says anything, yes, this makes any WWE game qualify where you have full control over the creation and story before them)

Mechanics that help reinforce the RPG are things like upgrading stats with a detailed number system (depth of numbers and their systems notwithstanding), open worlds, choices that impact story, and an intentional attempt to make the player believe they are the character they are playing as.

Zelda fits better under Action-Adventure or Hack n' Slash w/ Puzzle elements (Puzzle Slash?) imo.

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LordRazziel
03/03/20 11:02:47 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...


So you "assume the role" (play) the role of the "character" (Link) in a "fictional setting" (Hyrule).

You take responsibility for acting out these roles within a "narrative" (save hyrule from ganon)... through "structured decision-making regarding character development" (go where you want, get new gear, follow the story)"

Actions may succeed or fail due to "rules and guidelines" (hit an enemy, they die. Run out of HP, you die).

So, yes, it is.
Not according to what gamers call an RPG. The consensus is definitive -- OoT just ain't an RPG.

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Azardea
03/03/20 11:05:13 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Okay, if turn based combat isn't the definition of a role playing game, what is?

You could argue that Super Mario Bros. is a role-playing game because you play the role of Mario.
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Coastal_elite
03/04/20 10:07:30 AM
#38:


LordRazziel posted...
Is Ocarina of Time an RPG?

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I believe it is, it checks every box
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Coastal_elite
03/04/20 10:09:24 AM
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AlisLandale posted...
If Zelda is an RPG, then so are Ducktales and Banjo-Kazooie. >_>

nope.

In OoT you have magic points, health points, special powers (e.g the 3 goddess powers), etc
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AlisLandale
03/04/20 11:09:51 PM
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Coastal_elite posted...
nope.

In OoT you have magic points, health points, special powers (e.g the 3 goddess powers), etc

Tell me what game Im describing:

As you travel the world, you can find items that upgrade your health, learn special abilities that allow you to access places you couldnt before, and complete quests for NPCs that reward you with items.

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LightHawKnight
03/04/20 11:12:12 PM
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You know when people talk about RPG elements, they only talk about the exp and leveling up aspect. Gaining stats from killing your enemy or doing stuff. Not gaining powerups by picking stuff up.

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DarthAragorn
03/04/20 11:13:54 PM
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yeah you play the role of zelda
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COVxy
03/04/20 11:15:36 PM
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Also, it came from Japan, which makes it a JRPG!

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PatrickMahomes
03/05/20 3:20:40 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Not according to what gamers call an RPG. The consensus is definitive -- OoT just ain't an RPG.
So the "gamers," a.k.a the people literally playing the game, are 100% wrong?

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Back_Stabbath
03/05/20 4:27:22 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action-adventure_game

An action-adventure game can be defined as a game with a mix of elements from an action game and an adventure game, especially crucial elements like puzzles. Action-adventures require many of the same physical skills as action games, but also offer a storyline, numerous characters, an inventory system, dialogue, and other features of adventure games. They are faster-paced than pure adventure games, because they include both physical and conceptual challenges. Action-adventure games normally include a combination of complex story elements, which are displayed for players using audio and video. The story is heavily reliant upon the player character's movement, which triggers story events and thus affects the flow of the game. Some examples of action-adventure games include The Legend of Zelda, God of War, and Tomb Raider series

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COVxy
03/05/20 4:29:18 PM
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But it's Japanese! And you play a role!

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DevsBro
03/05/20 4:44:20 PM
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RPG is a pretty broad blanket term for a lot of genres that trace their roots back to non-videogame RPGs like DnD.

It's more reasonable to talk about each genre in particular, and it's a lot more useful to categorize genres by their overall ideas than particular mechanics.

For example, JRPGs are about story and characters, while WRPGs are about role playing and player agency. Then you have fusions with other genres, like ARPGs are about tactical combat while SRPGs are about strategy.

Meanwhile, Zelda is definitely Action-Adventure, defined by the fusion of Action and Adventure, in turn defined respectively by exploration and tactical realtime gameplay. I definitely wouldn't say it fits into either the JRPG nor the WRPG genre.

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